OK Texans this is the Bill to Support.

[DevilDog72]

It is about time. I will put my Rep(s) on speed dial and call often. This needs to happen along with the other proposed bill that Texas will not enforce Fed gun laws

 

[saturner1]

I think this bill would be a shoe-in if the Chairman will let it get out of committee. That has been the problem in previous years. The Chairman is really anti 2A and just tables them until the session is over. Maybe this time there is enough conservative strength to make him let it out for a vote. It would pass. For Christ sake Virginia has constitutional carry. Shame on us for not taking care of this long ago. West Texas has many conservative newspapers, not so much for Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Austin.

 

[ladyT]

There may be changes in committee chairmanships this session. There are a lot of republicans to keep happy and appointing democrats as committee chairs is not going to go over well..

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I need an additional comment from someone to verify what I read - presently, CHL holders in Texas can carry their concealed handguns in houses of worship, assuming the church or temple does NOT post the required "Section 30.06" notice banning guns from the premises. As I read this bill, that rule has been changed to say that firearms cannot be carried into houses of worship. Did I misread that?

Thanks.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Also, this is clearly an error:

(a) [(a 1)] A person commits an offense if the person
intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or
her person a handgun in a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned
by the person or under the person's control at any time in which the
person is:

There is a word or maybe more than one missing in there.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

There are other badly written sections, too, but with the cross outs it's a tad hard to read. For sure, however, unless I missed something, it bans handguns from houses of worship - on that item alone it ought to fail - those places have as many shootings as anyplace, maybe more. Further, they are all targets of terrorists and hate groups. BIG mistake to not permit handguns inside of them.

***GRJ***

 

[RobzGuns]

Don't forget... This is only a 'Draft'. The writing will get polished, but there may be quite a few tweaks people need to keep up on.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I wrote to TSRA and made my comments. We'll see.

***GRJ***

 

[jtcarm]

Without my reading the bill, can someone tell me:

How does the state know if you're qualified to own a gun?

I get a delay every time I go through NICS. I looked in to how to deal with this and it was basically getting finger-printed and registering myself with the FBI. No thanks! My other option is a CHL.

Call me paranoid, but either way, you're registering yourself as a gun owner with either the State or Federal govt.

 

[Old TexMex]

There are other badly written sections, too, but with the cross outs it's a tad hard to read. For sure, however, unless I missed something, it bans handguns from houses of worship - on that item alone it ought to fail - those places have as many shootings as anyplace, maybe more. Further, they are all targets of terrorists and hate groups. BIG mistake to not permit handguns inside of them.

***GRJ***

The bill provides a defense against prosecution in the "house of worship, amusement park, etc" by requiring these places to display 30.06 signage. Same as it has been. If churches don't want armed parishioners, they must display proper, legal notice. 46.035 (g)

 

[M3Stuart]

So this ONLY allows for open carry if I'm reading it correctly. You'd still have to have a CHL for concealed carry.

Also, it seems to prohibit open carry in churches, hospitals, etc. WITHOUT any signage. It seems to just prohibit open carry there outright.

 

[Old TexMex]

M3stuart, good news for you the bill says that a church CAN prohibit carry on their premises, just like a Taco Bell, aWalmart or any other business by posting 30.06 signage according to existing law. If they don't have the sign, there is no violation of the law as written in the bill.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/billtext/pdf/HB00195I.pdf#navpanes=0

See page 5, line 20

AASubsections (a)(3), (a)(4), (a)(5), (a)(6), and (a)(7) [(b)(4), (b)(5),(b)(6), and (c)] do not apply if the actor was not given
effective notice under section 30.06

the bill as written protects the right of a church, amusement park etc to prohibit (should they choose) to allow carry on their premises, but it requires them to give notice.

It's actually the way the law has been for years.

They're not going to do away with the 30.06 system, because that protects property rights. If I can't read the sign, I need someone to read it to me. If my business doesn't want citizens carrying on my property, I should be required by law to let them know BEFORE they enter my property. That's what the 30.06 system does.

 

[Old TexMex]

In case you missed it, fellow Texans, here's the deal: the entire bill counts, so you gotta read the whole thing, but you don't have to readthe parts that have lines drawn through them. They don't count, they are being removed from the existing law.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/billtext/pdf/HB00195I.pdf#navpanes=0

According to the bill:
Yes, we CAN carry openly in church, unless the church chooses to prohibit and puts up the 30.06 signs
Yes I can carry openly OR concealed, without a permit, unless I'm a felon, gang member etc.
yes the way it's presented is confusing, but less so than the existing law.

 

[JohnSW]

Texas open carry advocates continue to "make friends".

"House OKs panic buttons in wake of open carry confrontation

AUSTIN - The Texas House approved rules Wednesday to be able to install panic buttons and eject hostile members of the public from their offices, after a confrontation between lawmakers and open carry advocates visiting the Capitol on the opening day of the 2015 session."

House OKs panic buttons in wake of open carry confrontation - Houston Chronicle

 

[YogiBear]

Aloha,


So this bill is stuck in committee?

What are the chances of it making it out for a Vote?

 

[RobzGuns]

THIS Bill just got out of committee, but has yet to be discussed in the 'House'.
But... It's companion Bill, SB17, flew through the State Senate (passing its votes) and has just been passed to the State House.

To periodically check their progress, click on the links below:
TX House Bills: House Bill 910 (Open Carry), House Bill 937 (Campus Carry)
TX Senate Bills: Senate Bill 117 (Open Carry) and Senate Bill 11 (Campus Carry)

 

[ladyT]

Looks like HB195 is going to die in committee.

 

[RobzGuns]

Yeah... Most everyone kinda figures that UNlicensed carry of a handgun wouldn't pass. That's why everyone's pushing for SB17 and HB910... Baby Steps.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

LadyT,

I know you fancy yourself as somewhat in-the-know, and were previously lecturing us hillbillies in Tennessee and elsewhere that we didn't know what we were talking about regarding Texas and open carry.

How is it that you had it so wrong?

6/14/2014

Texas will not pass Open Carry. Won't happen. In fact this open carry issue most likely will scuttle the very progress we have made since the SCOTUS decision. In fact we will be very lucky to retain the progress we have made to date as the result of OCT's recent actions. They have played right into our opposition's hands. They have given the anti's all of the ammunition they need to stop the progression and expansion of our Second Amendment Rights.

 

[Old TexMex]

Phil, that's the person who said there weren't any deserts west of El Paso....