2-year-old boy shoots and kills his mother

It was a Glock....
News didn't say what caliber.
Another reason that woman should not have a gun in a purse or pocket book.
Local paper just went on what a great person she was and a 2ed Amendment CC with her husband who just got her that pistol.
 
2 yr old shoots mother

I was very depressed when I heard this this morning on the news. Evidently happened in a Walmart in Idaho. News mentioned more than once the mother was a "Responsible" gun owner, and had a Carry Permit. It was mentioned the gun was in her purse, in a special compartment for concealed carry in a new purse she had received for Christmas.

My question in this tragedy is what kind of handgun was it, and how did it get a trigger so light a 2 yr old pull it.
 
Horrible accident. Don't know details but it should be in a holster. I bet 95% of women carry in their purse. Most women are not going to throw on a iwb and go shopping just ain't gonna happen. I said most cause someone here will come along that their wife carries in a shoulder holster with 14 xtra mags. Just a tragic accident.
 
STCM(SW) said:
It was a Glock....
News didn't say what caliber.
Another reason that woman should not have a gun in a purse or pocket book.
Local paper just went on what a great person she was and a 2ed Amendment CC with her husband who just got her that pistol.
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Cannot vouch for the accuracy of what I read on another forum, but it said the gun in question was a SMALL 9MM Glock.
 
STMC(SW) mentions it's a Glock. I'd venture a guess it's G42. Their latest model and in .380 and it's small. A 2 yr. old could easily manage a Glock trigger. The news this morning told of this incident and then proceeded to review all the child involved AD's resulting in death since Noah built the ARK. What a sad situation.
 
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shouldazagged said:
...I know there are purses designed for concealed carry, and one of those might have saved this young mother's life. A holster might have done the same thing...
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Some reports are saying it was a concealed carry purse; who knows if she was actually using the compartment, and if she was it didn't make a difference leaving it and her child unattended (again, according to reports).

A terrible and avoidable error in judgment -- against the odds, everything that could go wrong did.
 
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I dont want to pass any judgment in a time like this but, but nearly every child will pull the trigger on a gun if they can pick it up. I have seen it happen, so do you really need a loaded chamber in Walmart? You can jack the slide in less than a second if you feel there might be danger and I doubt if any young child can manipulate the slide on a Glock.

Concealed carry citizens are not cops, and it actually wouldn't bother me if every concealed carry license required the chamber to be empty. If you feel a threat you can chamber your piece and quickly leave that area.
 
Do you have a link to that story. I live near there and was searching for some details.In particular what type of pistol it was. I met a friend in CDA for lunch that day. They just had an oil change prior to lunch. I suspect they were very close to that Walmart when it happend, no mention of police or other indications of a problem.

Training Training Training! So sad and tragic, I have to think also so preventable.


STMC(SW) mentions it's a Glock. I'd venture a guess it's G42. Their latest model and in .380 and it's small. A 2 yr. old could easily manage a Glock trigger. The news this morning told of this incident and then proceeded to review all the child involved AD's resulting in death since Noah built the ARK. What a sad situation.
 
I dont want to pass any judgment in a time like this but, but nearly every child will pull the trigger on a gun if they can pick it up. I have seen it happen, so do you really need a loaded chamber in Walmart? You can jack the slide in less than a second if you feel there might be danger and I doubt if any young child can manipulate the slide on a Glock.

Concealed carry citizens are not cops, and it actually wouldn't bother me if every concealed carry license required the chamber to be empty. If you feel a threat you can chamber your piece and quickly leave that area.
 
Farmer17 said:
I dont want to pass any judgment in a time like this but, but nearly every child will pull the trigger on a gun if they can pick it up. I have seen it happen, so do you really need a loaded chamber in Walmart? You can jack the slide in less than a second if you feel there might be danger and I doubt if any young child can manipulate the slide on a Glock.

Concealed carry citizens are not cops, and it actually wouldn't bother me if every concealed carry license required the chamber to be empty. If you feel a threat you can chamber your piece and quickly leave that area.
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Then the arguement becomes,why do you need a gun at Walmart, and eventually "why do you need a gun at all?"

Best not to go there...because when you need a gun, odds are you really need it and now.

The problem is leaving a toddler un attended at Walmart combined with an apparently new pistol and carry system that the woman wasn't familiar with.

I have five young children. There are any number of ways for them to kill themselves and others in a Walmart. Pulling down heavy objects, poisons, corrosives, sharp objects, blunt instruments (hammers are just laying out in a bin). Watch them and keep them close, and it doesn't happen. Slack off, someone gets crushed under a display of soup cans.
 
Does a Glock not have a safety? I've never owned one so don't know.

Bob


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I've checked the Couer d'Alene free press and all three network news websites. No mention of the make of the handgun so far.

Will advise if I find any information on it.

Pete

PS - something like this sure makes you review how you handle your own firearms in any given situation.
 
Voyager28 said:
Does a Glock not have a safety? I've never owned one so don't know.
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There isn't what would be considered a manual safety like on a 1911 or Beretta M9; there are three "passive" safety systems -- a small trigger atop the trigger that has to be engaged for the main trigger to work, and two internal ones related to drop safety.

A Glock is like a revolver in that not pulling the trigger is the safety.
 
Farmer17 said:
I dont want to pass any judgment in a time like this but, but nearly every child will pull the trigger on a gun if they can pick it up. I have seen it happen, so do you really need a loaded chamber in Walmart? You can jack the slide in less than a second if you feel there might be danger and I doubt if any young child can manipulate the slide on a Glock.

Concealed carry citizens are not cops, and it actually wouldn't bother me if every concealed carry license required the chamber to be empty. If you feel a threat you can chamber your piece and quickly leave that area.
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If the threat isn't immediate and either mortal or grievous in bodily harm and you have no practical means of escape, pulling and chambering simply because you feel threatened is also called brandishing and felony menacing; leaving the area means you were able to retreat, hence pulling the weapon wasn't justified to begin with and you can add fleeing the scene to the list of crimes being committed by the self-defense minded citizen.

Also, how would the "no round in the chamber" solution be applied to revolvers?

As for general carry condition, that's outside the scope of this thread and debated endlessly. Suffice to say that GatorFarmer covered it well: in the unlikely event one needs a gun, one is likeliest to need it instantly.
 
Pete99004 said:
PS - something like this sure makes you review how you handle your own firearms in any given situation.
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Definitely. I think a gun in a purse is probably a bad idea given there are probably lots of other stuff in there with it.
 
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