Light Weight .22 Automatic Pistol

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A friend (female) would like a .22 semi-automatic pistol for defense and "Plinking".
She has weak wrists (senior citizen) and a Ruger Mk III with a 5.5 bull barrel is too heavy.

I am thinking of a .22 Pistol with a four inch barrel and alloy frame ?
such as the High Standard Dura-Matic ?

Suggestions ?
Thanks,
Jimmy
 
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My favorite small .22 is a Bersa / Firestorm. ( kind of a copy of a Walther PPK) . 2nd on my list is a Ruger SR22. A very distant 3rd would be the Walther P22 ( don't care for the way the safety works on the P22 )

I think the slide and controls on the Ruger SR22 are a little easier to use.

I've looked at the new Walther PPK 22. But I thought, the one I looked at was a bit stiff , even for a new firearm.
All are double / single action , with safety / decocker. Except the P22 which has a safety , no decocker. which I think is confusing and I have seen people that have had problems with it..

I have several other larger .22s. But the Bersa makes it into the range bag more often than any of the others. The 4 " S&W 617 would be a close second for range trips.
 
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Colt Woodsman 4 1/2" bbl. or an original Ruger .22 with the short standard bbl. A later post on this thread brings up the Colt Woodsman Match Target which is a 4 1/2" bbl. by the way. This is a much heavier gun than the Colt Woodsman and would not work for her. There are also Colt Targetsman and Huntsman variants of the Woodsman which would work. They are all older high quality guns and the price will reflect this.
 
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Had one of those Bersa - Walther copies.
Don't know why I let it get away.
It reliably shot every brand of ammo that I happened to come up with.
Lots of the 'lower' end cheaper 22s tend to jam up.
 
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Here's another vote for the .22 Bersa / Firestorm. I think it is hard to beat for the price. Mine, however, has doubled in cost because a female friend asked to "borrow" it and I'll likely have to buy another. Her idea of "borrow" seems not to have a time limit.

I also really like my Walther P22. I did not find learning how to use the safety to be difficult, but I do think it is superfluous. It is also sensitive to ammo choices, to I suggest working with several to find one that works with 100% reliability. Mine does not like bare lead bullets, nor low velocity ones. I also bought the longer barrel for it. It looks like a compensator and adds muzzle weight if you want it. It is also fussy about staying in place, so I suggest that if you like it, you Lock Tite it in place. Or, just stick with the short barrel.

The best .22 auto I have, for my uses, is the Sig Trailside Hammerli. I see them selling used for under $300. I have a S&W 41 that cost more than twice as much, but does not deliver more practical accuracy. I've often used the Sig to "hunt" flies and wasps that congregated around some strategically spilled sugary soda. I easily whacked them from 25 - 30 feet, off-hand, open sights. It is less sensitive to ammo choices than the Walther.

I find the slides on all of these to be very easy to operate, but I think your friend may have difficulty disassembling them for cleaning. Offer to help.
It's possible she'll need both hands to release the slide stop, too, but in my opinion wrist strength or pain due to arthritis is not the issue, there.

If she buys it at a friendly local gun shop, they may offer to clean it for her, no charge. I have seen that offered to senior citizen buyers. Wouldn't hurt to ask, but tell her to take it in unloaded.
 
If you (she) wants to stay in the S & W world, a 4.5" fixed or adjustable sight 422 would fit. The 622 has a steel frame (I think? Don't have and never handled one) and if so is not particularly light but would make a good shooter. I used to have a 22-A1 that worked fine, just not a "pride of ownership" kind of gun if that makes sense.

The only other candidate with which I have any experience would be one of the polymer frame Ruger .22 autos, like the .22/45.
 
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Second an earlier "Mark I" 4 3/4" Ruger semiauto. MUCH simpler to understand and operate than the newer ones.

My personal project in that department is one of the new "Lite" models. But to get it where I want I will have to put in a Volquartsen trigger kit and deactivate the mag disconnect. I will still be stuck with the new mag release and loaded chamber indicator but I can live with those if I have to. Then I will stick a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot on top.

And even then I will probably still prefer my old beater original.

Come to think about it, my old single shot Sheridan "Nocabout" .22 is probably a good alternative to some of this new and improved stuff.
 
Colt Woodsman 4 1/2" bbl. or an original Ruger .22 with the short standard bbl.

I have a 6" Colt Woodsman Match Target. So, there is No Way I would recommend a little old lady buying a 4" Colt Woodsman Match Target ! :eek:

I would buy it for myself.. :D

( edit: sorry ,, a 4 & 1/2 inch barrel Colt Woodsman Match Target )
 
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A ruger 4 3/4" standard balances very nicely in the hand.The mark I or II are simpler to take down and reassemble,but the mag release requires strong,nimble fingers.The mark III is more complicated but has a nice button release like a 45.
 
Lightest 22 pistol I'm aware of it the Browning 1911-22, even lighter than a 2213. Good for plinking, but a 22 for defense??? Please try to sway her to a better caliber.
 
I also really like my Walther P22. I did not find learning how to use the safety to be difficult, but I do think it is superfluous.

The best .22 auto I have, for my uses, is the Sig Trailside Hammerli. I see them selling used for under $300.

Harkrader , I don't think it is difficult to learn, I think it is confusing.
I was teaching a CCW class. One grumpy old individual, kind of a PITA the whole day, in the middle of class, started complaining about a firearm he purchased at 'my' store. ( At the time I was working part time at a LGS.) He said, the firearm was brand new and would Not fire and the safety didn't work right.

I told him I would take a look at it on the range.. It was a P22 and he was trying to get it to fire with the safety on. :rolleyes:
( My grandson did the same thing once with my P22. )

Nice little gun, small, light, shoots pretty good. But I find that the hammer / trigger operating while the safety is on, confusing to some people that are less informed about firearms and how they work..
 
My first choice is an old Colt Woodsman. A close second is an older Hi Standard HD.

These are universally the favorite 22 pistols for the women I've instructed over the years.

I've had many offers to buy the old, worn Woodsman I use in classes, it is so well liked.

Some have gone to the trouble to hunt down less than imaculate
examples of the old Woodsman and discovered they are price competitive with some of the current production 22 pistols.
 
If I am correct; the 4" barrel is not that common on the polymer frame types.

I would also recommend either the SR22, 4 3/4" Ruger MkII - or the 422 or 622 also mentioned. But the SR22 has a 3ish inch barrel and the Ruger MkII has a metal frame.

The SR22 is the most reliable of the small polymer 22's (the jury being still out on the new S&W MP22 compact).

On the plus side: any range you go to should have lots of different models to rent and try out.

On the minus side: she may have trouble finding piles of .22 ammo to practice with.

All in all, you can't go wrong with either the SR22 or MkII (or the MkI/MkIII's with standard barrels) They cost about the same and for 'last for ever durability', you probably won't go wrong with any of these - the lightest (of course) being the SR22.
 
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The 422 and 622 are the same weight (422 is black, 622 is silver, both are alloy frame). And both are very light. The 2206 is the steel framed version.
 
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