Target 22 Selection ( Follow UP )

[Speedo2]

Pete, be aware that if for any reason you send your Ruger back to the factory, they will not return it with the Volquartsen trigger. They will re-install the original design, terrible trigger and may, or may not, return your aftermarket Volquartsen in a separate baggy. I believe they do that for liability reasons. -S2

 

[Onomea]

Like Thiokol says, for the MKIV anyway it's the complete upper that is the gun/requires an FFL since barrel is attached to receiver. Referred to as the receiver.

This:



These are pretty cheap, though, as a standalone. It's the lowers that get expensive. Ruger will not sell them separately.

 

[GypsmJim]

I have had my Mk4 Target for 8 years now. It is one of my favorites. I admit that the trigger is not a Model 41, but I find it acceptable in all respects.

If I found that I needed to "fix" the gun I guess I would have sold it.

I guess I must not be too fussy.

 

[Narragansett]

Can you please define "Accuracy was good." ?

What target https://a.co/d/dZBSMpQ ??

what distance(s), where on "center mass", how many rounds?

I am going to post these and add an edit

T3 is 50 feet off a rest. No Idea on bullet count but a lot. 10 bullets 15 seconds max

T2 semi rapid off rest 7 yards 20 rounds.

T1 semi rapid 7 yards 20 rounds off rest

 

[GnarlsR2]

I am going to post these and add an edit

... off a rest.

off a rest, meaning you were not standing with both hands on the pistol, you were sitting and the pistol was sitting on some kind of rest?

 

[Kanewpadle]

Another vote for the trigger kit. I put one in my Mark II and the difference was amazing.

I had never done it before but it wasn’t too bad. A pair of tweezers helped.

 

[rockquarry]

I have had my Mk4 Target for 8 years now. It is one of my favorites. I admit that the trigger is not a Model 41, but I find it acceptable in all respects.

If I found that I needed to "fix" the gun I guess I would have sold it.

I guess I must not be too fussy.

I've had a Mark I 5 1/2" bull-barreled model since purchasing it new about fifty years ago. I bought a used Mark II Gov't Model at least thirty-five years ago. Neither has been tampered with and they've been shot a lot. I've yet to find the trigger on either unsatisfactory. I shoot Bullseye-style with one hand at 25 yards; sometimes (rarely) at 50.

I'm wondering if all these persons who needed new triggers fired their guns with the factory triggers long enough to become accustomed to them, say a couple of thousand rounds or so using good ammo while working toward the development of good shooting skills?

 

[Narragansett]

off a rest, meaning you were not standing with both hands on the pistol, you were sitting and the pistol was sitting on some kind of rest?

Yes that is correct

 

[wproct]

I bought my first Ruger .22 semi-auto pistol back around 1965, it was a standard 4 inch bbl model and it shot well I thought. My next Ruger would be a Target model with 6 7/8 inch tapered barrel and it shot well also, the adjustable sights and longer barrel were nice. I never shot in competition, but I had good eyesight, good reflexes, and I thought shooting reasonably well with a .22 semi-auto target pistol was relatively easy and I really didn't focus all that much on the trigger pull.

Then I got older, got involved in other shooting sports, mainly trapshooting, and got into some competitive shooting, and all of a sudden shooting wasn't quite so easy. I migrated into Ruger MKII Target pistols and started becoming much more aware of the trigger pull. Years later I discovered Volquartsen, and that was a game changer for me. I got stuck on the MKII series and saw no reason to move onto MKIII or MKIV, but anytime I bought another MKII Ruger a Volquartsen accuracy kit was just a given necessity. Maybe you shouldn't have to, but to me it's part of getting familiar with my new to me Ruger. I dabble into other brands and one that I particularly like is my Smith & Wesson Victory, but guess what, it shoots a lot better with some Tandemkross add ons.

 

[oink]

Just how much have you got tied up in it now?

That was 5 years ago although it doesn't seem that long. I need to take it out again. I don't remember the numbers but I got a really good deal on the gun and the barrel was shockingly cheap but I don't recall how much that was either. They were blowing out the barrels.

 

[pasound]

Pete, I have a friend over at the Ruger forum who is also a neighbor and member of the same shooting club I belong to. He swears by the Volquartsen triggers and accessories. I'm not yet in that space, but I'm looking to upgrade my MkII.

In the meanwhile, a lot of people are not seeing that you started a Part 2 on your search.

 

[gunbarrel]

I personally still have my High Standard 107 Citation with a red dot sight from when I used to shoot in NRA Bullseye pistol matches back in the 90's. For plinking, I use what used to be my wife's Ruger SR22; mine now, since her enthusiasm for shooting only lasted about one year (of the 46 we've been married). But, unless I missed it, nobody brought these up (see pictures). I've been told by people who have them, that they are very good shooters. Why were they not mentioned; I'm curious. After all, this is a Smith & Wesson forum...

BTW, I still see a few old guys who shot Rugers, and other than being a pain putting them back together, they say that the best ones are the Mark II's.

 

[Narragansett]

I bought my first Ruger .22 semi-auto pistol back around 1965, it was a standard 4 inch bbl model and it shot well I thought. My next Ruger would be a Target model with 6 7/8 inch tapered barrel and it shot well also, the adjustable sights and longer barrel were nice. I never shot in competition, but I had good eyesight, good reflexes, and I thought shooting reasonably well with a .22 semi-auto target pistol was relatively easy and I really didn't focus all that much on the trigger pull.

Then I got older, got involved in other shooting sports, mainly trapshooting, and got into some competitive shooting, and all of a sudden shooting wasn't quite so easy. I migrated into Ruger MKII Target pistols and started becoming much more aware of the trigger pull. Years later I discovered Volquartsen, and that was a game changer for me. I got stuck on the MKII series and saw no reason to move onto MKIII or MKIV, but anytime I bought another MKII Ruger a Volquartsen accuracy kit was just a given necessity. Maybe you shouldn't have to, but to me it's part of getting familiar with my new to me Ruger. I dabble into other brands and one that I particularly like is my Smith & Wesson Victory, but guess what, it shoots a lot better with some Tandemkross add ons.

I used to be a rifle, and pistol shooter years ago. I was also a handloader. Then I went off into a couple decades of trapshooting to the tune of about 25K loads a year, mostly handloads. Then I put that down for 15 years of fishing. I have not shot a clay target in 20 years, but the fishing rods are on the garage wall and shooting is back in favor, complete with my flinch that i developed while shooting trap. It is very hard to shoot slowly and not pull the gun off of the target. That is why I shoot semi rapid to deal with my flinch. It does not allow for the best accuracy, but it is fun.

My rifles that have not been touched in 40+ years will be coming out next. I may even shoot some trap.

 

[zeke]

I've had a Mark I 5 1/2" bull-barreled model since purchasing it new about fifty years ago. I bought a used Mark II Gov't Model used at least thirty-five years ago. Neither has been tampered with and they've been shot a lot. I've yet to find the trigger on either unsatisfactory. I shoot Bullseye-style with one hand at 25 yards; sometimes (rarely) at 50.

I'm wondering if all these persons who needed new triggers fired their guns with the factory triggers long enough to become accustomed to them, say a couple of thousand rounds or so using good ammo while working toward the development of good shooting skills?

HUGE difference between a Mark II oem trigger and the new Mark IV oem trigger

 

[rockquarry]

HUGE difference between a Mark II oem trigger and the new Mark IV oem trigger

Maybe so, I have no idea; just relating my experiences with the Rugers mentioned in my post.

 

[cballman]

Pete I bought a used Mark IV last year to be able to understand how they work so I can be a better teacher. Now the fun item is that it has a set of the Volquartson rubber target grips on it. I have shot with these much better then anything I have shot. I will recommend them. They help you have the proper grip to shoot better.

Good luck with it!!

 

[Imissedagain]

Since the thread title did not say pistols,
here's some wishful drift.

 

[Imissedagain]

My MKIV trigger, after just a few boxes of ammo, was fine for
plinking. Take up was fine and the little bit of smooth creep
and the hammer dropped, at about five pounds.
But crisp at less than 2lbs, why not.
Hope to get to the range this week.

 

[AJ]

Since the thread title did not say pistols,
here's some wishful drift.

That costs much more than $1000.00.


This one pictured cost me $350.00 from CMP a few years back and the sights were another $400.00. It will shoot with the Annie, may not beat the Annie, but it is 60 years old.

Now back to our regular programing!

 

[hardluk1]

I notice you could buy a colt huntsman still today for the same kind of money or a couple hundred dollars less than a ruger MK what ever and have a pistol with a 2lb trigger + or - a few ounces with no perceivable pre travel or over travel and with good mid level ammo shoot tigher groups than a standard ruger mk .

Mine is a 1961 6" huntsman and when eye sight was good shooting 12 gauge hulls on sticks at 25 yards was a 8 out of 10 most times . Wife was a little better on average . Today I need a dot optic for good groups so I have one on our ruger mk3 6" and my wife can still out shoot me with the old colt huntsman .