M&P Shield .40 Blow Up

I can't believe Smith & Wesson would send a damaged pistol back saying it is safe to shoot with a crack in the frame. But I also believe there is a significant design flaw in the frame of the S&W M&P line. My Shield blew up while running drills in a handgun defense class. I have my CCW license in California and was shooting my carry gun in the class. The gun blew up on the last round in my 7 round magazine. Since this catastrophic event I have been researching this online to see if anyone else has had this problem. I was amazed at how many M&P's, both 40's and 9's have come apart. The remarkable think about it was every picture that I saw appeared to be identical to my Shield right down to the cut below my left eye. Later I noticed a small chip in my safety glasses where a piece of brass would have entered the center of my eye. Thank God for safety glasses or I would not have a left eye.
Smith & Wesson said it was a hot load that caused this. I was shooting factory Winchester loads bought at my local Walmart. Smith & Wesson said the gun was not fixable and they offered me a slightly reduced price for a new one. What a great deal when I can buy one for less than what they offered me. I asked for my gun to be sent back to me. They asked why I wanted it because I couldn't shoot it. I said, "I paid for it, so either replace it or give me my money I paid back." After more questions from the service rep, he again said it was not a shoot able gun and said that I had after market sights on my gun. That if they weren't installed properly that could have caused my gun to explode. My response, "I am farsighted and the fire sights I had my on Shield were bought from the Smith & Wesson Store. They were installed by my local gunsmith and I had run about 300 rounds through it before it blew up." He still wanted to know why I was adamant about having my original gun returned. My remark, "It is for advertising." With that he said he would send it back to ballistics for another evaluation. That was the last I heard from Smith & Wesson for the last month. I added pictures of my Shield.

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I think Smith & Wesson has a problem that they don't want to address.


Would have liked a new thread on this since its a 9 instead of a 40, and is pretty old. Makes it kinda hard to keep track of current problems. Don't remember seeing anything about this happening to a 9, so I'm sort of curious about the responses. Glad the OP was not injured.
 
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Would have liked a new thread on this since its a 9 instead of a 40, and is pretty old. Makes it kinda hard to keep track of current problems. Don't remember seeing anything about this happening to a 9, so I'm sort of curious about the responses. Glad the OP was not injured.
Ditto. Maybe a Mod can move it to a brand new thread. :)

I'll be very interested to follow this since both myself and my wife own 9mm Shields. :cool:
 
Hard to see how a tech could miss that crack - unless he/she was forced to work too fast in order to deal with a huge backlog of service jobs - because S&W refuses to hire enough people. Personally I think S&W customer service is terrible. I don't think they are interested in individual customer sales and service. I think their focus is on quantity buyers i.e., military and police -- thus the name M&P. I get the impression single gun owners are an annoyance to S&W.

Kind of sorry I got involved with the M&P platform. If I didn't have so much invested in sights, holsters, and related tools I'd go elsewhere. It's a nice product - but you are on your own after purchase - unless you consider 4 month wait times and the issue that started this post as acceptable.
 
Smith & Wesson said it was a hot load that caused this.
That is the common response for anything like this. I wouldn't expect anything different, but haven't seen any proof either.

I was shooting factory Winchester loads bought at my local Walmart.
Do you still have the box with the lot number on it?

After more questions from the service rep, he again said it was not a shoot able gun and said that I had after market sights on my gun. That if they weren't installed properly that could have caused my gun to explode.
This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. How could sights cause the gun to explode?

I think Smith & Wesson has a problem that they don't want to address.
You may be right, but how do you prove it?


There's not a doubt in my mind that this was caused by an overcharged round. The partially supported chamber could be the problem. Mix an overloaded round with a weak case and poor support and you have a catastrophic failure.
 
I just opened a box of Winchester white box .40. The headstamp is Winchester not win.
 
Funny how these overcharged factory rounds always seem to find their way to Shield owners. :o Anyone ever hear of a kaboom in a 3913 or 3914? :confused: Me neither. :o

The wife and I own a couple of 9mm Shields. We don't ever use reloads and we picked 9mm just to not even have to think about the far more prevalently reported .40 kaboom problems. And now this one in 9mm. Like I said earlier, I'll be following this one very closely.

I'm not a fan of plastic guns, but what else is S&W making today in a lightweight, concealable semi-auto? :confused: Nothing. :( Go plastic or go used... or go to a different brand I guess. :rolleyes:
 
Funny how these overcharged factory rounds always seem to find their way to Shield owners. :o Anyone ever hear of a kaboom in a 3913 or 3914? :confused: Me neither. :o

The wife and I own a couple of 9mm Shields. We don't ever use reloads and we picked 9mm just to not even have to think about the far more prevalently reported .40 kaboom problems. And now this one in 9mm. Like I said earlier, I'll be following this one very closely.

I'm not a fan of plastic guns, but what else is S&W making today in a lightweight, concealable semi-auto? :confused: Nothing. :( Go plastic or go used... or go to a different brand I guess. :rolleyes:

how many 3913's do you think were made.... not to mention, how many do you think are in use today..... one step further... how many newbies with no clue are buying a new first gun... Shield... and having problems.. :rolleyes:
 
This is not the first case we've seen of a 40 shield cracking. Also not the first indication of overall deterioration of quality at Smith. I've got a 9c that I love and is very solid but it will be my last Smith gun.
 
how many 3913's do you think were made.... not to mention, how many do you think are in use today..... one step further... how many newbies with no clue are buying a new first gun... Shield... and having problems.. :rolleyes:
I hear you loud and clear. All good points. But every new "kaboom" report goes a little bit further in weakening my faith in the plastic-framed S&W Shield, especially since I have never been too thrilled with plastic-framed guns in the first place. :( Trouble is that if you want a new semi-auto carry gun with a full "unlimited" warranty and full parts availability, you don't have any other choices with S&W (other than a 1911). :(

I will be pleased if a really good & believable/preventable reason is found for the kaboom in this 9mm Shield. All the .40-related stuff goes out the door if 9mm Shields are kabooming too. For sure, nothing is proven yet... other than the fact that someone with a 9mm got himself kaboomed. :eek:
 
If I were this concerned that my gun was going to blow up, I wouldn't sell it. The thought of giving a defective gun to someone, and them being injured by it, would prevent me from passing my problem to someone else.

You are Joking Right?! He according to what I read has- a NIB unfired gun! Why would he not sell it due to his "fear" of a kaboom? If he had bought a Ruger redhawk snub in X caliber, but was afraid of a kaboom, he should not sell it??? I did not see him state that he had a "defective" gun secondary to any known damage?? If you follow your logic, all dealers should stop selling the Shield, S&W should stop selling for a fear of a "kaboom" He is not passing a problem, at most it would be an irrational fear.
IF he was selling a "used" firearm, 1 round only and knew that there were hidden cracks, defects, damage, then I agree he should have it repaired, use it as a paperweight, but not sell it to someone without FULL disclosure!! But the idea that he is doing something illegal, immoral or unethical is wrong!! He should sell it with out any concerns!!! Be Safe,
 
You are Joking Right?!
Seems to me that member Rastoff was speaking in the abstract, and he is absolutely right... in the abstract. :cool:

I think he was also being a little bit facetious in regard to the earlier post. That's my read on it anyway. :)
 
Seems to me that member Rastoff was speaking in the abstract, and he is absolutely right... in the abstract. :cool:

I think he was also being a little bit facetious in regard to the earlier post. That's my read on it anyway. :)


Exactly in "abstract"~ But I did not want member Cloudy who is new to the forum/CCW having any thoughts that he was in someway endangering someone by selling it. I was unsure as to which Rabbit hole Rastoff was going to lead, always interesting!! Be Safe,
 
wow, after reading this post it makes me wonder if its true or nothing but a bunch of baloney.. If true then it's gotta be 1 out of a million then...All I know is my M&P shield 9 is a great pistol, never failed me and everyone I know who owns one loves it and every review out there on the Shield is fairly positive. Never had a problem with S&W customer service either....
 
wow, after reading this post it makes me wonder if its true or nothing but a bunch of baloney.. If true then it's gotta be 1 out of a million then...All I know is my M&P shield 9 is a great pistol, never failed me and everyone I know who owns one loves it and every review out there on the Shield is fairly positive. Never had a problem with S&W customer service either....

your post pretty much is the reality of the situation...
 
The uptick in Shield KBs reports is a sure sign that glock is coming out with another single stack.
 
My question at this point would be, what is the cause of the failure? It appears that there may be a defect, either in design or manufacturing, that may permit firing when the pistol is not properly in battery. The disconnector should prevent that. Should I be concerned about my M&P 40c?
 

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