Polish sear block on the SD9VE???

[GRU_ 7_ mech]

I should receive my new SD9VE today or Monday and I do not know if the sear assy block and springs are the same as on my SW9. I have never seen anyone mention polishing the sear and housing on an SD9VE like is done on a SW9. Has S&W refined the finish on the block to a more smoother finish or is the polishing still a good idea for a smoother trigger. Same goes for the springs....in the SW9 mod I removed the pigtail spring and the outer sear spring to create a much smoother trigger. Would be nice if that is not necessary on the SD9.

 

[vigil617]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the parts on these pistols are all American made. If there are some Polish sear blocks out there, I haven't heard of them, but anything is possible I guess. If you have a Polish one, it might need polishing.....

You must forgive me, I really can't help myself....

 

[Ole Joe Clark]

They are NOT the same. My SW is completely different than my friends SD. His SD has a much better trigger than my SW.

 

[Dr Denby]

Hey, GW

My buddy got his new SD9VE last month and was not happy at all at how it was breaking in. He hated the trigger play and pull weight.

He got a new Apex trigger and spring kit for I think he said $60 and asked me to put it in for him.

The trigger and trigger return spring replacement was the trickiest part, but they even included a pin to make it easier.

The whole job I only needed a 1/16 pin punch, the pin they included and of course being careful of spring tensions so springs don't go flying.

I did polish the trigger bar/sear contacts.

The work made a world of difference. The results were definitely worth the $60 if you are comfortable with doing the work. If not, it is probably worth it still even if you pay a smith.

Doc

 

[GRU_ 7_ mech]

Hey, GW

My buddy got his new SD9VE last month and was not happy at all at how it was breaking in. He hated the trigger play and pull weight.

He got a new Apex trigger and spring kit for I think he said $60 and asked me to put it in for him.

The trigger and trigger return spring replacement was the trickiest part, but they even included a pin to make it easier.

The whole job I only needed a 1/16 pin punch, the pin they included and of course being careful of spring tensions so springs don't go flying.

I did polish the trigger bar/sear contacts.

The work made a world of difference. The results were definitely worth the $60 if you are comfortable with doing the work. If not, it is probably worth it still even if you pay a smith.

Doc

So the sear block and sear assembly (with the pigtail spring and dual spring captured in the sear detent is the same set up), or is it completely different?

 

[GRU_ 7_ mech]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the parts on these pistols are all American made. If there are some Polish sear blocks out there, I haven't heard of them, but anything is possible I guess. If you have a Polish one, it might need polishing.....

You must forgive me, I really can't help myself....

You have to be ex navy....................ohhhhhhhh no USCGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG !!!! Still, must be the sea water that affects our brain!!

 

[GRU_ 7_ mech]

They are NOT the same. My SW is completely different than my friends SD. His SD has a much better trigger than my SW.

Oh, just reread your post, thanks. I can not find an illustrated parts breakdown of either pistol to compare. The manuals do not even have the IPB in them.

 

[GRU_ 7_ mech]

Hey, GW

My buddy got his new SD9VE last month and was not happy at all at how it was breaking in. He hated the trigger play and pull weight.

He got a new Apex trigger and spring kit for I think he said $60 and asked me to put it in for him.

The trigger and trigger return spring replacement was the trickiest part, but they even included a pin to make it easier.

The whole job I only needed a 1/16 pin punch, the pin they included and of course being careful of spring tensions so springs don't go flying.

I did polish the trigger bar/sear contacts.

The work made a world of difference. The results were definitely worth the $60 if you are comfortable with doing the work. If not, it is probably worth it still even if you pay a smith.

Doc

Thanks, I have an Apex trigger for the VE ( Actually bought it by mistake for my SW9 when I had it), but did not want to do any mods till I break it in and make sure I do not have a problem I need to send it to S&W for repair. Thought the ole fluff and buff of the moving parts first would help till I got a few hundred rds down the barrel.

 

[clenceo]

I polished the sear edge that contacts the striker. I round it off slightly and polished the striker face as well as all the contact points on the trigger bar. I also polished along the face of the trigger part that lightly contacts the polymer.

I still use stock springs....I'm very happy. Feels very close to my M&P40 trigger.

 

[AnthemBassMan]

I have the SD40VE and installed the Apex spring kit. While I had it apart, I polished the trigger bar assembly and the link in the sear block it connects to. I however did NOT touch the sear or the the hook on the striker. I wet sanded the linkage lightly with 600 grit to eliminate tool marks, then went to 1000 grit. After that I just did a followup with some Flitz polish and pretty much got a mirror shine on it. My trigger breaks cleanly at an average of 6 lbs, 1oz now. That's about as low as I will take it being that I carry this pistol daily. But the triggers on the SD series are a far cry from what the SW series triggers are. Mine stock was around 8lbs, 10oz. At first it was a bit gritty, but between firing and dry firing, it smoothed out quite a bit.

L8R,
Matt

 

[Dr Denby]

So the sear block and sear assembly (with the pigtail spring and dual spring captured in the sear detent is the same set up), or is it completely different?

Sorry,

I just picked up a new "toy" Sunday, and like a kid, I been playing with it and did not get into the forum.

As you will have seen now that you got the gun, the sear assembly does have that set up.

So, how are you liking it so far? Purty thing aint it? Might pick one up too, but it will be quite a while. I just picked up my first 1911 and am kicking myself for not having one before.

Doc

 

[GRU_ 7_ mech]

Sorry,

I just picked up a new "toy" Sunday, and like a kid, I been playing with it and did not get into the forum.

As you will have seen now that you got the gun, the sear assembly does have that set up.

So, how are you liking it so far? Purty thing aint it? Might pick one up too, but it will be quite a while. I just picked up my first 1911 and am kicking myself for not having one before.

Doc

GRRRRRRRR.... It will not be here till TOMORROW. LGS said it was delayed getting here because of item being sold out and just replenished stock yesterday morning. Rush shipment to me for tomorrow. I had a Rock Island Tac II 40 cal I really liked. Just can not take the jolt on the wrist (several breaks, arthritis ....9mm is about all I can shoot, and can not be some compact, that is why I traded my Nano in on the SW9 that I traded in on the SD9VE) to shoot enough to enjoy so gave it up. Thought about a 1911 9mm but just does not seem right, the 40 cal just never set right with me not being a 45cal.

Glad the SD9VE has the same set up as my old SW9 had. I felt comfortable tearing it apart and doing the wet sand of the sear and trigger bar. I never got a reply form anyone about the pigtail spring or the outer sear block spring so I take it no one is removing them like the SW9 mod said to do. I never liked only having the inner spring in the sear block detent.
New SD9VE still not delivered to LGS today. 7/29

NOTE to self....never have gun shop order new gun from a company that delivers by dog sled!!!

 

[Dr Denby]

Correct about the springs.

Apex says they are just fine, and you know they would have wanted to change it to charge more. No need to strip the block. Just polish the trigger contact point.

The video Apex puts out with the SDVE trigger and springs is actually quite good, so you should do fine aside from the arthritis/breaks etc.

I agree completely about the 1911, I think I even saw some in a 22LR !! That was in fact what I picked up on Sunday, a 1911 . 45, of course.

Doc