Locked 627 in a aluminum performance center case

Bought a 627, complete with performance center aluminum locking case. Problem is the case is locked and my FFL can't open it to record the revolver for transfer. The seller doesn't remember the combination. The default combination, 000 doesn't work. Any suggestions? I don't want to destroy the case.


I would pressure the seller a little more. (Unless the previous owner died and you bought the gun from his widow.) The previous owner should at least have an idea of what numbers to try. The case is worth a lot and the previous owner needs to make this right, either by remembering the combo or covering the expense of hiring a locksmith.
 
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Mine still has the tiny wire tie through it. I have no idea what the combo is??

It is set to 0 0 0. So if it was never changed that's it.

Some Chinese instructions on how to change it

Seems pretty easy to just pry the latch(s) open. .Doubt it will effect value very much.
 
Jus' Thinkin':D;):D:eek::eek::eek::eek:

If order mattered, we would say select the first number (10 choices), then the second (9 choices) then the third (8 choices). So there would be 10 x 9 x 8 = 720 possible choices.
But because order does not matter, we have to take care of duplicates as you mentioned. How many duplicates are there for each set of three numbers? Well, again, we can choose one of the three as the "first", so there are 3 choices for that, then 2 choices for the "second" digit, then 1 choice for the last digit. There are, you see, 3 x 2 x 1 = 6 possible ways of arranging the three digits.
Therefore in that set of 720 possibilities, each unique combination of three digits is represented 6 times. So we just divide by 6.
720 / 6 = 120.
That's your answer.
These are what are mathematically called "combinations". You can use a formula involving factorials to determine the number of combinations.
In this case, we say this is "10 Choose 3" and write it as 10C3. That means from a set of ten (digits in
this case), choose 3 regardless of order.
The formula for nCm is
nCm = n! / [ m! x (n-m)!]
So in your question, we have
10C3 = 10! / [3! x (10-3)!] = 10! / [3! 7!]
= (10 x 9 x 8 x 7!) / [ (3 x 2 x 1) 7!]
= (720) / 6 ... because the 7! on the top and bottom cancels.
= 120 as we expected.
Simple as pie (3.1415927)!

That's why he's the top gun in the Lounge. :cool: ;)
 
I would pressure the seller a little more. (Unless the previous owner died and you bought the gun from his widow.) The previous owner should at least have an idea of what numbers to try. The case is worth a lot and the previous owner needs to make this right, either by remembering the combo or covering the expense of hiring a locksmith.

This ^^^^.

The deal isn't done unless the gun can be transferred to you. The seller is still responsible to deliver the gun in the proper manner.
 
Bought a 627, complete with performance center aluminum locking case. Problem is the case is locked and my FFL can't open it to record the revolver for transfer. The seller doesn't remember the combination. The default combination, 000 doesn't work. Any suggestions? I don't want to destroy the case.
Have you actually SEEN the gun?

Is it possible that you're buying a brick in an expensive aluminum case?
 
This ^^^^.

The deal isn't done unless the gun can be transferred to you. The seller is still responsible to deliver the gun in the proper manner.

I was waiting to see what our resident locksmith had to say. cmort makes an excellent point; no one even knows what's inside the case until it's opened, and if case is damaged to open it only to find out that the gun inside is not what he thought he was getting then you have even more problems.
 
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I was waiting to see what our resident locksmith had to say. Excellent point; no one even knows what's inside the case until it's opened, and if damaged to open it only to find out that the gun inside is not what he thought he was getting then you have even more problems.

Truth is, I can open it easily. But unfortunately I'm not there. Explaining how would be difficult at best. And since the gun has not been transferred it cannot be taken to a locksmith. Which means the locksmith has to come to you which adds a trip charge. It ain't cheap.

So in my opinion the only solution is to have the seller pony up the money to have it opened without damaging the case.
 
I'd agree with getting a locksmith and trying to get the seller to pay but expect he'd balk too.
I have one of those fireproof document cases that is locked and I think has papers from my late Father's estate. I can't find a key to fit and will try a locksmith too. I don't want to cut the locks as I'd like to reuse the case.
 
I'd agree with getting a locksmith and trying to get the seller to pay but expect he'd balk too.
I have one of those fireproof document cases that is locked and I think has papers from my late Father's estate. I can't find a key to fit and will try a locksmith too. I don't want to cut the locks as I'd like to reuse the case.

I've been to a couple of Michigan gun shows this year where a vendor was selling lock pick kits. PM me if you want his website info.
 
I've been to a couple of Michigan gun shows this year where a vendor was selling lock pick kits. PM me if you want his website info.

Contrary to popular belief and TV, buying a pickset isn't a guarantee that he will be successful. And in some states, they are illegal.

And if it uses a barrel type key he will need to see a locksmith.

If it's a $20 fire box, pry it open and then buy a new one.
 
You could always soot it open. What? Oh yeah the gun is locked inside.
I would have the dealer pry it open. Call the PC and ask for a new case, or, buy one on Ebay.
 
This was taught to me years ago: If this is a roller type combination lock try this; use a thin small screwdriver blade to hold the left most roller to the left. With good light behind you and a magnifying headset watch the gap between the roller and the right side of the opening for a small difference in appearance of the axis. When that is spotted leave that roller in that position and move to the next. Do the same examination all the way to the right positioning each roller where the anomaly in the axis of the roller appears. When all 3,4 or 5 of the rollers is so positioned, that should be the combination. This has worked for me several time on customer's problem lockable gun cases. A bank vault, they aint. .......
If the above doesn't open the lock, move the first roller one digit higher, then the next etc. Try that, if that doesn't work, go back to the original position all the way across and try one digit less all the way across. One of those three possible combination should work. .......
 
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