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[sowest1157]

thanks all

 

[Fourth Horseman]

I'm no ammo expert, but my only concern would be the bi-metallic jacket. I'm sure it will function fine, but the harder metal in the jacket will cause more barrel wear. Now, whether or not that's a concern is up to you. Personally, I won't put bi-metallic jacketed ammo through any of my guns. There are others who do because the savings on ammo more than makes up for the cost of replacing a barrel earlier than you normally would. To each his own, I guess.

 

[sowest1157]

I'm no ammo expert, but my only concern would be the bi-metallic jacket. I'm sure it will function fine, but the harder metal in the jacket will cause more barrel wear. Now, whether or not that's a concern is up to you. Personally, I won't put bi-metallic jacketed ammo through any of my guns. There are others who do because the savings on ammo more than makes up for the cost of replacing a barrel earlier than you normally would. To each his own, I guess.

Thanks,, This is a great point you made and is also my main concern, Damage to the Inside of the Rifle Barrel. Anyone else have experiences with this type of ammo?

 

[Arik]

Yes you can. Great surplus ammo. Unless you plan to shoot 6 - 10 THOUSAND rounds of it in a day you won't hurt your barrel

Any time you shoot you "damage" your barrel. It's that simple. When it's time, replace it and move on.
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[Arik]

Yes you can. Great surplus ammo. Unless you plan to shoot 6 - 10 THOUSAND rounds of it in a day you won't hurt your barrel

Any time you shoot you "damage" your barrel. It's that simple. When it's time, replace it and move on.
Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE,,, No that many in a day ,Just about {5 boxes} 100 or so rd's at a outdoor range ,we take a few other rifles 556 and 22's so we don't abuse the rifle to much.

If you shoot a couple boxes every so often you won't see a difference. It's not just the material of the bullet that wears the barrel but the heat as well. This is why machine guns have quick change barrels. The heat kills them quick.

I wouldn't worry about it

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[sowest1157]

If you shoot a couple boxes every so often you won't see a difference. It's not just the material of the bullet that wears the barrel but the heat as well. This is why machine guns have quick change barrels. The heat kills them quick.

I wouldn't worry about it

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I guess I'll just shot to a few magazines at a time and monitor the heat of the barrel. I was more concerned about messing up the rifling in the barrel.

 

[Arik]

I guess I'll just shot to a few magazines at a time and monitor the heat of the barrel. I was more concerned about messing up the rifling in the barrel.

That's what I'm saying. If you're not using it for training and shooting several thousand rounds a month or as a machine gun it doesn't matter. There is nothing to monitor in a few boxes. It doesn't wear out barrels in a 100 rounds. You won't even see a difference. Only difference you'll see is if you do lots of heavy shooting. Think thousands of rounds a day

How often do you shoot and how much ammo at a time?

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[sowest1157]

That's what I'm saying. If you're not using it for training and shooting several thousand rounds a month or as a machine gun it doesn't matter. There is nothing to monitor in a few boxes. It doesn't wear out barrels in a 100 rounds. You won't even see a difference. Only difference you'll see is if you do lots of heavy shooting. Think thousands of rounds a day

How often do you shoot and how much ammo at a time?

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5 or 6 boxes once or twice a month

 

[Arik]

5 or 6 boxes once or twice a month

So about a 100 - 200 rounds a month?! It'll take you a long time

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[Fourth Horseman]

If you're interested, there's some interesting info in this article regarding various kinds of ammo, its reliability, dirtiness, throat erosion, etc. They also discuss the arguments for and against running cheaper ammo. It's worth a read:
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

 

[sowest1157]

If you're interested, there's some interesting info in this article regarding various kinds of ammo, its reliability, dirtiness, throat erosion, etc. They also discuss the arguments for and against running cheaper ammo. It's worth a read:
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

Thanks for the kink

 

[Fishinfool]

That looks like the German DAG ammo I used to buy cheap, and run in my HK-91 and CETME rifles. Not reloadable, but quality brass cased ammo. Put thousands of rounds of rounds down range in the above noted guns without issue, and it is very accurate for military ball ammo. At the time, it was like $70 a 200 round battle pack.

Larry

 

[Arik]

If you're interested, there's some interesting info in this article regarding various kinds of ammo, its reliability, dirtiness, throat erosion, etc. They also discuss the arguments for and against running cheaper ammo. It's worth a read:
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

This is not even near the same thing

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[sowest1157]

That looks like the German DAG ammo I used to buy cheap, and run in my HK-91 and CETME rifles. Not reloadable, but quality brass cased ammo. Put thousands of rounds of rounds down range in the above noted guns without issue, and it is very accurate for military ball ammo. At the time, it was like $70 a 200 round battle pack.

Larry

I paid close to that 1000 rd' @$385 38.5 cents a rd

 

[BUFF]

Its very good ammunition. I have shot up at least 2 cases of it through my rifles (FAL, CETME, M-1A) without complaint. Time was a shooter could buy good mil-surp like that for $125-150 per 1,000 delivered. $385 is a great price today.

 

[Fourth Horseman]

This is not even near the same thing

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Of course not, it's 5.56 not .308 for starters, but it's a good examination of what bi-metallic bullets do to the bore of rifle barrels. I'm not telling anybody what to run in their guns, just providing some information so they can make informed decisions.

 

[Arik]

Of course not, it's 5.56 not .308 for starters, but it's a good examination of what bi-metallic bullets do to the bore of rifle barrels. I'm not telling anybody what to run in their guns, just providing some information so they can make informed decisions.

It's not even good for that. What it is good is at showing what happens what bimetal bullets do in extremely heated barrels. That's a completely different thing. If you want a good comparison you take that test and do 100 - 200 rounds a month. This will be correct.

Go through 6- 10k rounds in a day and see how any of your barrels would be!

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[Fourth Horseman]

FACT: Bi-metallic bullets cause more barrel wear than copper-jacketed bullets.

OPINION: Everything else in this thread.

BOTTOM LINE: Everybody should feel free to shoot whatever they like through their firearms, but they should do so after making an *INFORMED* decision. To suggest otherwise is irresponsible and doing a disservice to new and less experienced shooters.

 

[sowest1157]

FACT: Bi-metallic bullets cause more barrel wear than copper-jacketed bullets.

OPINION: Everything else in this thread.

BOTTOM LINE: Everybody should feel free to shoot whatever they like through their firearms, but they should do so after making an *INFORMED* decision. To suggest otherwise is irresponsible and doing a disservice to new and less experienced shooters.

That was the point of my post was to get Informed from shooters who had experience with this type of ammo Cupro {Copper Nickle} With Pro's & Cons of this ammo used in the newer rifles [ M&P 10.] I greatly Appreciate all of your responses I've read and considered everyone of them before I make the decision to use this ammo or not,Thanks to all of you Happy Holidays to you all