The 'unofficial' 58 Club

A few yrs back I bought a blue 58 on gunbroker . The ad said " bank vault tight lockup " . When I got , the lock up was sooo loose that I refused to shoot it . Didn't have much luck with the seller either then, so I sent it back to the factory . For $189+shipping , it was fixed . I have shot it quite a bit and will never sell it . I have a buddy that sent one to Bowen Hamilton several years ago and had it converted to 45 LC . Real sweet shooting gun . But I will keep mine in 41 magnum .


I'd keep it a .41 too, they can be loaded up & down to suit most anyone.
 
If I could only have one gun, make it a Forty One ! It can be loaded down to about like a 38 spl , yet loaded up to about equal a 44 mag . The heaviest cast bullet I shoot is 240 gr swc . It is increditably accurate with a max charge IMR 4227 and a mag primer . My std is the 220 gr " Keith " , #258 H&G . I have also found great flavor with Veral Smiths 210 gr LFN design .
Am I the only one that has noticed that despite Alliants warning about not using Blue Dot powder in any 41 mag loads , In the latest Speer Manual #14 , they have a 41 mag load using Blue Dot powder . Funny thing since they are both owned by the same parent company . Guess one doesn't talk to the other .
It is the exact load I use on a regular basis . I worked up that load yrs ago , with my LFN cast bullet it shoots like a laser . I put Magna PC grips on my 58 .
 
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Sell the Cokes? I am thankful I don't need to sell anything. I like to collect the guns and maybe trade but, it is fun to buy and speculate what they might be worth down the road. I don't ever pray for anything more than to wake up tomorrow with what I have today. The cokes add more wow factor and I am proud to own it.
 
If I could only have one gun, make it a Forty One ! It can be loaded down to about like a 38 spl , yet loaded up to about equal a 44 mag . The heaviest cast bullet I shoot is 240 gr swc . It is increditably accurate with a max charge IMR 4227 and a mag primer . My std is the 220 gr " Keith " , #258 H&G . I have also found great flavor with Veral Smiths 210 gr LFN design .
Am I the only one that has noticed that despite Alliants warning about not using Blue Dot powder in any 41 mag loads , In the latest Speer Manual #14 , they have a 41 mag load using Blue Dot powder . Funny thing since they are both owned by the same parent company . Guess one doesn't talk to the other .
It is the exact load I use on a regular basis . I worked up that load yrs ago , with my LFN cast bullet it shoots like a laser . I put Magna PC grips on my 58 .


There was nothing wrong with using Blue Dot in .41 Magnums... The problem was there were some published loads that were way too hot... Same with the 125 grain loads for the .357 Magnum.

A year ago I noticed some of the .41 information on LoadData.com had Blue Dot loads and asked them about it... They said this was all new data which was safe to use...

Bob
 
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You know there is nothing wrong with good old Unique, 2400, & even Bullseye for light loads. These three will still get most six-gun jobs done & done quite well. My Cousin really likes 700X for medium loads & I suspect if someone worked with it Red Dot would work well for medium loads too.
 
I've debated selling this...for the right price...but better judgement always wins out.
And as far as on duty carry, I would love it if I had the option to swap out my M&P45 for my 58!

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I've debated selling this...for the right price...but better judgement always wins out.
And as far as on duty carry, I would love it if I had the option to swap out my M&P45 for my 58!

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Wow nice. I hope better judgement always wins out. That is a fantastic six-gun & a great carry gun too. They are also classy off the chart!
 
I've debated selling this...for the right price...but better judgement always wins out.
And as far as on duty carry, I would love it if I had the option to swap out my M&P45 for my 58!

58forsale.jpg

Advice from my dad, " Son don't ever sell a gun you like , you'll regret it . "
The old man was right and you know you will regret selling that fine model 58 about 5 minutes after cashing the check !
Gary
 
Anyone who carries a .41 in bear woods, what is your favorite bullet? A cast 220+ WFP?
Thanks.

The two times I went to Alaska I carried my M58 with a Ranch Dog TL411-255 RF which weighs 269 gr straight wheel weights. 19 grs of H110/W296 was my load gave over 1600 fps from my Marlin. Don't remember what they clocked out of the 4". For the black bears in NC I still carry that load in my Marlin but use a bit lighter load using Unique with the same bullet.


CD
 
Thanks Combat_Diver, sounds like you were well covered.
I sure like the looks of those 240+gr WFP GC bullets. I'd like a GC mold.
 
41 Spl- 41 mag- Henry

I just brought home my new Henry Big Boy 41 Mag lever action to go with my beat up model 58 and 100 41 Spl brass from Starline, I am a happy camper. Will step out back to try em with real 41 mags in the next couple of days.
As far as the Model 58, I have never seen a Model of gun looks so worn so fast in all my days. Maybe it is cause they get shot a lot?

The Henry is a damned sweet shooter and functions with both the 41 SPL and 41 Mag

I bought a 100 Starline 41 Spl brass and tried it the both the Henry and and the Model 58.
I came back in the house after test a few and promptly ordered another 100 brass!!!
Hard hitting pleasant round - worth reloading- I think I am going to be going through a lot of these.
 
Bear defense load for the 58....most anything will do, especially the original 210 grain Remington Soft Point...that is one penetrating round.

For a little less kick and more control I've settled on a MeHic 220 grain Keith mold that puts out a 226 grain solid plus 214+- grain HPs and PentaPoints. Using Unique:
8.0: 950 fps
9.0: 1100 fps
10.0: 1180 fps from a 4" barrel.





The nose of the HP blows off instead of expanding and then the shank of the bullet keeps on going...

Bob
 
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Another good bullet is the Accurate Molds 41-215V...it has a .38 meplate...runs the same velocity as the Keith with the same amounts of powder....





Cuts a very round deep hole..

Bob

Wow SuperMan, I like the looks of that WFP, it'd make a great hunting bullet.
 
I liked it so much I had Accurate make a 250 grain version... Shot it at 100 yards just to see if it was stable and it was both accurate and cut nice round holes...

41-215V is pictured above and the one I had them make is the 41-250F...

Bob
 
I liked it so much I had Accurate make a 250 grain version... Shot it at 100 yards just to see if it was stable and it was both accurate and cut nice round holes...

41-215V is pictured above and the one I had them make is the 41-250F...

Bob


I have looked at those Accurate molds they sure look good. What material did you have yours made of, I'd love one in say 240grs with a gas check for the .41.
Thanks.
 
Applying for membership....

I'm glad I stumbled across this forum a few years ago, I thoroughly enjoy the sight, the info and the members who are helpful with info. I'd like to be considered for the "Unofficial 58 Club" after purchasing my first model 58. She's not here just yet and I'm already looking and planning for my first one in blue. You could say "I've got the fever and the only cure is..."
 

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