My son made a Tom Three Person for my Colt 38 Super!

[jeeps]

It rides and carrys well and is lined with pigskin. It retains Colt Super with good draw with the cant.

 

[GeoJelly]

It looks great - but why did he make the upside down version? ... It makes me sad to see your CDR though; I had one up until '98 but finances forced me to sell it ... for a song compared to today's prices ...

Edited to add: I was attempting to make a funny about the photo orientation. His work is beautiful and I didn't intend to mock him or his work.

 

[les.b]

That's a beauty!! He shows great talent. I just bought a Threepersons for my Commander off of eBay, and I'll bet you got a better deal!!

Best Regards, Les

 

[jeeps]

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[rednichols]

Let's jam this ALL up with some important historical info: Tom Threepersons and Tom Three Persons both existed and were different people, born virtually the same year but in two different countries, died 20 years apart, and buried in the same two different countries (USA and Canada respectively). Yet both were famous for rodeoing, though the former more for his law enforcement career. Mixing the two stories has badly contaminated the historical record going back to Eugene Cunningham in the 1920s but the more contemporary sources have got it better sorted out now.

Secondly: it's not a threepersons unless there is a substantial -- one, two, or three -- leather welt inside that jams the pistol in place. Even John Bianchi's No. 2 -- which your son has copied -- is not a threepersons because the welt does not function that way.

Thirdly: there WAS a genuine threepersons for the auto, made by Myres beginning in 1931, which ignored that principle by encircling the trigger guard with leather as did the Brill -- because Arno Brill actually designed Myres' holster for him and Tom.

 

[les.b]

Red, I mentioned above that I had just received a holster off of eBay that was advertised as a "Tom Threepersons" from El Paso Saddlery. I don't know much about holster design, but for what it's worth, here is a shot of it on my Colt Commander. It fits very snugly, and has a fairly thick welt. I suppose the safety strap is not authentic, but seems to serve a purpose. I think that this may be a "second", because the numbers on the back have x's through them. That's ok, I just needed a holster for the range, so it works for that.



Best Regards, Les

 

[rednichols]

Red, I mentioned above that I had just received a holster off of eBay that was advertised as a "Tom Threepersons" from El Paso Saddlery. I don't know much about holster design, but for what it's worth, here is a shot of it on my Colt Commander. It fits very snugly, and has a fairly thick welt. I suppose the safety strap is not authentic, but seems to serve a purpose. I think that this may be a "second", because the numbers on the back have x's through them. That's ok, I just needed a holster for the range, so it works for that.



Best Regards, Les

Yes, gorgeous. I've long been interested that with John's No. 2, of which this EPS is a copy, he's long touted that he thereby 'invented' the first concealment holster for the 1911 -- yet not only was it not the first but it was mainly marketed as a field holster (with 2-1/4" wide belt slot to suit).

The strap on yours doesn't detract from the threepersons definition, not least because the original threepersons styles from Myres -- there were many -- several had straps, and the auto always had a strap. The No. 2 started out strapless and had a strap added to it within a decade or so.

 

[les.b]

With apologies to the OP, jeeps, ... I hope I'm not hi-jacking your thread, but I find this topic of the Threpersons holster fascinating. Also, just like your Government Model, my Commander is in 38 Super. Quite a coincidence, as this seems to be a much under appreciated caliber, even though there were many Texas Rangers and other early Lawmwn who appreciated the cartridge!!

For Red: Here is what I guess you call the welt. It seems to be two layers of thick leather, and the holster seems to be both robust and delicate, if you know what I mean. I was quite amazed at the workmanship and minimalist look to it. The lining seems to be something like soft glove leather.



Best Regards, Les

 

[rednichols]

With apologies to the OP, jeeps, ... I hope I'm not hi-jacking your thread, but I find this topic of the Threpersons holster fascinating. Also, just like your Government Model, my Commander is in 38 Super. Quite a coincidence, as this seems to be a much under appreciated caliber, even though there were many Texas Rangers and other early Lawmwn who appreciated the cartridge!!

For Red: Here is what I guess you call the welt. It seems to be two layers of thick leather, and the holster seems to be both robust and delicate, if you know what I mean. I was quite amazed at the workmanship and minimalist look to it. The lining seems to be something like soft glove leather.



Best Regards, Les

Do like the way the leather welts are jammed up agains the dust shield of your 1911. Now -- about that front sight, which on anything but a G.I. is going to drag something fierce.

 

[jeeps]

Thanks for your expert history Red! I am just happy to hear from you and your rich hands on knowledge! My son lined the holster with black died pig skin like a suede glued to the outside leather. It is tight ,but smooth on draw. Outside rubbed with neatsfoot and sealed with handful beeswax over dye. I like the simpleness of it. Maybe for my birthday he could make one for my Colt Frontier six-shooter 44-40 4 -3/4" barrel. Thanks all for your kind words God Bless!

 

[crazyphil]

That is some beautiful work you son is doing jeeps. Only suggestion I
would have is to consider using wider lace. See my thread IDAHO LEATHER for an example of what I mean. Not trying to be critical.
Trying to be constructive.

 

[crazyphil]

Hi Les,
Here is another El Paso Saddlery Threepersons with the safety strap for
a revolver. My model 67 on board.

 

[jeeps]

More 1911 goodness!!

 

[les.b]

I can't get over the quality of the carving!! That style of carving adds a hefty premium to a commercially made holster for a reason...the time and talent that it takes to do a nice, attractive, and workman like job. That is really nice looking, jeeps, now you need to have him make a matching magazine holder and belt!!

Thanks for sharing with us.

Best Regards, Les

 

[Lizardsausage]

jeeps son

Hi there. . .I am jeeps son and I am new to the forum. Thank you for the great comments. I have to say it is an absolute honor to have comments posted by red nichols. I have followed his work and love his design and history. All you guys out there should check out his site if you have not already, it is like holster porn.lol. anyhow, i 'll take any advice or suggestions I can get as I am just starting off in the holster hobby. Attached is a couple more 1911s I just finished.

 

[les.b]

Welcome to the forum!! You will probably love it here. Nice work that you have shown so far, although I'm far from being an authority on holsters, like Red Nichols, and some of the other guys like Crazyphil and Turnerriver. These guys know a lot about holsters and also have collected many thousands of dollars worth of the finest holsters.

One thing that I was curious about on the Tom Threepersons holster that you made for your dad.., does it have a welt? Red says (my interpretation) that the reason that the welt is important is to allow the holster to help retain the gun. See the photo in post 9 above. Unfortunately, this requires,sewing or lacing through multiple layers of leather.

Just a thought..... Anyway, welcome, and keep sharing your work with us!!

Best Regards, Les

 

[rednichols]

Hi there. . .I am jeeps son and I am new to the forum. Thank you for the great comments. I have to say it is an absolute honor to have comments posted by red nichols. I have followed his work and love his design and history. All you guys out there should check out his site if you have not already, it is like holster porn.lol. anyhow, i 'll take any advice or suggestions I can get as I am just starting off in the holster hobby. Attached is a couple more 1911s I just finished.

Good work Jeeps' son . This nearby thread shows what holster lacing really looks like:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/gun-leather-carry-gear/513063-idaho-leather.html

it's a kind of 'armour' for the seam, developed before we had sewing machines in USA, so in the 1880s. Done with rawhide to give incredible strength, there are no gaps in the finished seam, will last a hundred years ("No man ever outlived his Heiser holster" said their catalogues).

 

[crazyphil]

Yes, gorgeous. I've long been interested that with John's No. 2, of which this EPS is a copy, he's long touted that he thereby 'invented' the first concealment holster for the 1911 -- yet not only was it not the first but it was mainly marketed as a field holster (with 2-1/4" wide belt slot to suit).

The strap on yours doesn't detract from the threepersons definition, not least because the original threepersons styles from Myres -- there were many -- several had straps, and the auto always had a strap. The No. 2 started out strapless and had a strap added to it within a decade or so.

Here below left is an early, well worn, Myres Threepersons
with not only the safety strap, but also the hammer protector.
To the right it is shown hosting my model 67 Combat Masterpiece,
accessorized with a Sparks gunbelt and Benchmade knife.

 

[rednichols]

Here below left is an early, well worn, Myres Threepersons
with not only the safety strap, but also the hammer protector.
To the right it is shown hosting my model 67 Combat Masterpiece,
accessorized with a Sparks gunbelt and Benchmade knife.

Yes, but did Myres officially call it a Threepersons? He was quite selective about which ones were called Threepersons-Style Holsters though they included two shoulder holsters.

 

[OLDSTER]

Nice thread, and great looking holsters here