les. b- (And the rest of you here)

[Texas Star]

Check your PM box. I sent you a link to view a pretty good movie.

SCROLL DOWN IN THIS TOPIC: I POSTED THE LINK TO SEE THE MOVIE. See post no. 35.


If anyone else wants a look, it's, " Safari", starring Victor Mature and Janet Leigh. The other actors are British or are presumed Africans, although I think those with speaking roles may really be West Indian, as when Sidney Poitier played a Mau -Mau leader in, "Something of Value."

Good safari film, hunting both a Mau-Mau terrorist who killed the hero's son and nanny, and who was a household servant, and a man-eating lion.

Look for the Sten gun that changes from a MK II to a modified MK III in some scenes. Look for Janet's Winchester M-94, an unusual safari rifle. Other guns are as expected. I saw at least one H&H rifle.

The producers of this 1956 film later made the James Bond movies.

I first saw this in a theater about 1956-57. I think I was 12, already an enthusiast for good jungle adventure films. It's just been on YouTube a few weeks in the original English. Some guy posted it earlier, but dubbed in Spanish.

If it doesn't come up under the title, Search by stars' names.

I think most here will like this movie. I suggest viewing in Full Screen mode.

 

[susieqz]

thanks. i love jungle movies.

 

[Targets Guy]

Wow. A blast from the past. Thanks for the memory.

 

[M1A]

I remember seeing this movie about the same time as you. I didn't notice the firearms as much as I did Janet Leigh. I will give it another look.

 

[30-30remchester]

Sounds like a good movie. You mentioned the Winchester 94 being an odd safari rifle. My call name may give some indication to my fondness of for a certain caliber. I have heard of a number of 94's in Africa. One of the famous white hunter started his career shooting lions with a 94 Winchester in 32 Special caliber. He claimed it never failed him and was far superior to many other calibers. If anyone else made such a statement I would call it the ramblings of a 1 safari expert. No doubt one reason was the large, usually, flat nosed bullet at moderate velocities produce greater impact and deep penetration. All original Winchester calibers for the 94's had full metal jacket loadings available to the public. In fact I have just come into possession of 2 cases of Winchester brand 30-30 ammo loaded with 170 grain full metal jacket bullets. These came from the Sing Sing armory from the days when 94's were the go to guard gun.

 

[bearfoot]

Texas Star- TCM or AMC

mr. star what channel is the movie on? i usually go ahead several weeks, before my wife can tape all the musicals, i can at least get several. thank you for your time and info.

 

[Texas Star]

Sounds like a good movie. You mentioned the Winchester 94 being an odd safari rifle. My call name may give some indication to my fondness of for a certain caliber. I have heard of a number of 94's in Africa. One of the famous white hunter started his career shooting lions with a 94 Winchester in 32 Special caliber. He claimed it never failed him and was far superior to many other calibers. If anyone else made such a statement I would call it the ramblings of a 1 safari expert. No doubt one reason was the large, usually, flat nosed bullet at moderate velocities produce greater impact and deep penetration. All original Winchester calibers for the 94's had full metal jacket loadings available to the public. In fact I have just come into possession of 2 cases of Winchester brand 30-30 ammo loaded with 170 grain full metal jacket bullets. These came from the Sing Sing armory from the days when 94's were the go to guard gun.

In Robt. C. Ruark's splendid, Something of Value, the hero white hunter went from his .416 Rigby to a Marlin .35 given to him by a US client when hunting Mau-Mau. The .416 was too much gun for humans.

The man you mentioned with a .32 Special was Glen Cottar, from OK. But I don't know which rifles Cottar had used. I certainly feel a Krag or Win. M-95 in .30-40 would be superior to a M-94 in .32, or the Lee-Enfield sporters in .303 were even more effective. John A Hunter used a M-95 Mauser 7mm on many lions early in his career. I doubt that Cottar ever used a .375 H&H Magnum.

 

[bearfoot]

just did a SEARCH, On Safari not coming up. thank you for the suggestion. although i though i saw it listed last week on TMC.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

I'm watching it right now on Utube.
Man! There is a bunch of stuff named Sarafi!
I Put 1956 behind Safari to find the right one.

 

[30-30remchester]

In Robt. C. Ruark's splendid, Something of Value, the hero white hunter went from his .416 Rigby to a Marlin .35 given to him by a US client when hunting Mau-Mau. The .416 was too much gun for humans.

The man you mentioned with a .32 Special was Glen Cottar, from OK. But I don't know which rifles Cottar had used. I certainly feel a Krag or Win. M-95 in .30-40 would be superior to a M-94 in .32, or the Lee-Enfield sporters in .303 were even more effective. John A Hunter used a M-95 Mauser 7mm on many lions early in his career. I doubt that Cottar ever used a .375 H&H Magnum.

IIRC Glen said the 32 killed better on lions than a 30-06 or 375, for him anyway. I sure would like something a little stronger. The beauty of the Winchester 94 is it easy to carry and have sufficient oomph and carries enough ammo to be a good, get a bucket of water or go to the bathroom, tag along thunder stick.

 

[Texas Star]

IIRC Glen said the 32 killed better on lions than a 30-06 or 375, for him anyway. I sure would like something a little stronger. The beauty of the Winchester 94 is it easy to carry and have sufficient oomph and carries enough ammo to be a good, get a bucket of water or go to the bathroom, tag along thunder stick.

So does a Mannlicher-Schonauer in a more potent caliber, or a stutzen style on a Mauser action. Or a .303 sporter built on a Lee-Metford or LE action. The cavalry carbines were handy, as issued. So were 7mm carbines taken from the Boers.

I'm just messing with you. I know the M-94 is handy.

Actually, on his first safari, Ruark had hunted only deer and birds in the Carolinas and he took a Marlin to Kenya, as well as a .30-06 Remington (M-30S?) and a Winchester .375. I think I recall a Marlin carbine among the rifles shown in his terrific safari article for, Playboy, for whom he was Travel Editor. I think that was the March, 1965 issue. I haven't time to find it in a closet now, but I believe the Playboy photo crew went to Abercrombie & Fitch in Chicago and assembled some suitable gear and took photos there.

I definitely recall a pair of the Russell Birdshooter boots he favored and a Russell Canadian No 4 knife, as issued to some RCAF aircrews. I have both.

BTW, in 1968, I was a college student on a Journalism field trip to Chicago. We had some culture shock issues, one girl being surprised that when I ordered tea, I got a cup of hot tea. She'd seen only iced tea.

I particularly wanted to look through a Zeiss binocular. I'd read Jack O'Connor's comment that using an 8X50 Zeiss was like looking through a picture window at a whole new, bright world. It was true. The A&F stores were among the few places an American then could buy Zeiss products. As a poor student attending college on the GI Bill, I couldn't afford Zeiss yet, but enjoyed that experience at A&F almost as much as I enjoyed the Playboy Club. My teacher's boyfriend had a key and got some of us in there as guests. The Club and A&F were the only places we received cordial treatment in Chicago. One guy told our hotel elevator operator that his dog treated people better than the Yankees treated us. And we were not rednecks, either.

Anyway, Ruark took a Marlin .35 to Africa, although I suspect it saw little use.

I never learned what his Remington .30-06 was. I hope a M-30S, a nice rifle. One of my classmates' dad had one. The later M-721 was pretty crude by comparison, as with all subsequent Remington bolt actions. They're built to a price...although the short-lived M-725 was pretty nice.

Oh: this topic is supposed to be about a movie on YouTube. If any of you watch it, let me know how you like it.

 

[30-30remchester]

I never learned what his Remington .30-06 was. I hope a M-30S, a nice rifle. One of my classmates' dad had one. The later M-721 was pretty crude by comparison, as with all subsequent Remington bolt actions. They're built to a price...although the short-lived M-725 was pretty nice.[/QUOTE]


I bought a Remington 30 express when I was 14 years old. I just walked in the sporting goods store and bought it with my haying money. Took it home on the school bus. It was the high power I took to Alaska when I ran away from home at 16 years old. I made a double on flying ravens with this rifle. I gave it to a dear friend a few years later.

Robert Ruark used a Remington 721 in 30-06 as his plains rifle. There was a famous big game hunter from the 30's and 40's who advertised for Peters ammunition and shot all big game in North America, and he used a Remington 30 express in 30-06. That man had class.

 

[les.b]

T-Star:

Thanks for the link and the excellent thread!! I haven't watched the movie yet, but it's on my to do list. I didn't have any "safari" grade guns, but I do have a nice 1941 Winchester model 94 carbine in 30-30...and a couple of years ago I picked up my "poor man's Lee Speed", a .303 U. S. manufacture WWII Savage, I think, which was sporterized by Parker Hale in England and imported back into the US. Then one of the ammo companies had some of the good Greek manufacture (HXP headstamps) non corrosive military surplus ammo for sale, and I got a full case, and have all the reloading stuff for the caliber....so I'm ready for "The Ghost and the Darkness", in case we have any man-eaters show up here in WV!!



That surplus ammo even came on stripper clips. One is shown in the photo. Also, the Greek ammo spent casings are some of the best brass for reloading .303. I was also able to obtain some of the Australian "Woodleigh" 210 grain bullets for reloading. I have done some research on this caliber, and I would feel pretty confident against most North American game using one or another load. I even worked up "plinking" loads using .32 caliber revolver bullets!! Like shooting a .22 LR!!!

Thanks again for the thread,

Best Regards, Les

 

[Texas Star]

just did a SEARCH, On Safari not coming up. thank you for the suggestion. although i though i saw it listed last week on TMC.

Search under Janet Leigh. I had to do that the last time I watched. It's the English version, the original. Some guy also posted a Spanish-dubbed edition.

The correct listing notes that it is of good DVD quality. Much better resolution than many old movies have.

I said all of this about finding the film in the OP.

 

[eb07]

I'm interested thanks.

 

[model70hunter]

Victor made a war movie at Fort Leonard Wood, Mo. My aunt had about 30 rentals, they moved the Military folks to the base and rented all the houses for the Production company. Victor Stayed in a house next to my Aunt's and our house. Mom and Dad said he made killer Pasta dishes and used to carry me around and bounce me on his knee. I was to young to remember it. I looked up the movie on line and watched it.

Check your PM box. I sent you a link to view a pretty good movie.

If anyone else wants a look, it's, "On Safari", starring Victor Mature and Janet Leigh. The other actors are British or are presumed Africans, although I think those with speaking roles may really be West Indian, as when Sidney Poitier played a Mau -Mau leader in, "Something of Value."

Good safari film, hunting both a Mau-Mau terrorist who killed the hero's son and nanny, and who was a household servant, and a man-eating lion.





Look for the Sten gun that changes from a MK II to a modified MK III in some scenes. Look for Janet's Winchester M-94, an unusual safari rifle. Other guns are as expected. I saw at least one H&H rifle.

The producers of this 1956 film later made the James Bond movies.

I first saw this in a theater about 1956-57. I think I was 12, already an enthusiast for good jungle adventure films. It's just been on YouTube a few weeks in the original English. Some guy posted it earlier, but dubbed in Spanish.

If it doesn't come up under the title, Search by stars' names.

I think most here will like this movie. I suggest viewing in Full Screen mode.

 

[jlrhiner]

Just finished watching ON SAFARI and then watched BEYOND MOMBASA starring Cornel Wilde and Donna Reed. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Texas Star]

Just finished watching ON SAFARI and then watched BEYOND MOMBASA starring Cornel Wilde and Donna Reed. Thanks for the heads up!

Actually, I stumbled onto, Beyond Mombasa last night and felt it was fairly good, although not up to, Safari. Did you notice the Mombasa rifles were all very basic SMLE sporters?

There's a good one with Dirk Bogarde following up on the Mau-Mau murder of his brother, but I can't recall the title. You'll prob. see it listed to the right of the screen with the ones named.

Also look for the posting of Zulu! in a new hi-res version. I played it full screen and the resolution is terrific.

You couldn't make these movies today, due to changes in Africa...

 

[susieqz]

sure would be nice if you guys listed any other jungle movies you know about.
i'm making a list since i love them.

 

[Texas Star]

sure would be nice if you guys listed any other jungle movies you know about.
i'm making a list since i love them.

Did you enjoy, Safari, or have you seen it yet?

I'll try to recall some others.

Not in a jungle, but try, Flame Over India. Kenneth More (not Moore) and Lauren Bacall, Herbert Lom, etc. A British captain has to use an old train to save a Hindu prince from masses of Moslems. (Muslims.)

Don't know if if it's on YouTube, but, Never So Few with Frank Sinatra, Steve McQueen, and Peter Lawford is a goodie. A WWII tale about two Allied officers leading Kachin guerrillas against the Japanese in Burma. Gina Lollobrigida is the lady. Lots of good jungle fighting. I found it on DVD.

Did you watch, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World from 1999-2002? It is still on in some countries, as re-runs. Very loyal fans. Episodes are on YouTube, with many clips and fan videos. DVD's were sold; may still be.

You can browse for Tarzan or Sheena movies.