Confession time - let's see those .25 autos

Got this in the early 70's
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Everybody keeps talking about a Raven, so I thought I would post mine with the only other 25 I have. It’s a Beretta 1919. The Raven was $20 and the Beretta was $90, so I couldn’t pass them up. I’m a sucker for a cheap gun.
 

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Baby Browning trade

In the mid 60's I traded something for a .25 Baby Browning thinking I actually needed a pocket gun. Shooting into a seasoned oak backstop I got a straight on bounceback into my leg, just breaking the skin, and making me mad. Not impressed. Traded it off. I was also careful about that backstop after that. It don't have to be a .45, but it helps.
 
I believe that I would have more confidence in the .22, especially if it fired .22 LR, due to the higher velocity. Another story I believe is that the Japenese rifle cartridges used in WWII were .25's, for rifles not pistols. Anyone recall?
 
I've owned several .25's in my the last 5 or 6 years. First one of my own, not my dad's, was a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket Blued in finish and was made is 1912 I believe I dated it at the time. Great little gun that shot excellent and in good shape, all matching numbers, and only flaws was the the bluing was coming off especially on the slide and some pitting on the outside of the slide. So I had bought another slide in better shape from around the same year i believe 1919 to be exact and put it on the gun but kept the original slide being matching numbers. I ended up selling the gun to a so called friend under the pretense once I got back on my feet I could buy it and other guns I sold him back from him, for him to then tell me when I wanted to buy them back, that he refused to sell them back to me and I was just SOL. Regret selling him that gun every day since.
Here are some pics of it:





The second one I bought was a Taurus PT-25 and sold it to a true friend in order to buy a different gun I wanted. Probably won't buy it back as I wasn't that big a fan of it. Although I do currently own it's sibling the PT-22 in .22 long rifle. Here are the pics of the .25 auto.



The third one I owned was a Sterling Arms Model 300 .25 auto which came whith black and light creme colored grips Sold it to my shortly after buying it. Here is the pics of it:



Finally, is the very first .25 I ever shot, which belonged to my dad at the time. It is an old FIE Titan that my dad bought in the 60's I believe like 1966 or 1968, something like that at a bait shop before the FOID card was needed. If I told me correctly. I do know he bought it, then his dad (my grandfather) took it from him to carry for work on the railroad, and he kept it until the day he died, then it was giving back to my dad, and now that my dad passed away in November of last year after a lengthy 9 month battle in the hospital.....this here gun and his others were passed on to me. What I do know is these gun is a family heirloom, he sold it once to old assistant pastor of my parents church for money and that one year for Christmas I bought it back for him, along w/ a 9mm he sold to the old pastor of my parents church. That was the best Christmas he had probably and was so excited to get them both back as he thought they were both gone for good. Anyway I do not dare carry this weapon being a family keepsake and it is my safe queen, with an occasional shooting at range and cleaning. Here are the pictures of it. Might a cheap Saturday night special type gun but still shoots great and accurate.

 
Junior Colt .25

I only have one .25 cal. firearm. I sold all of my .25 cal. autos, I had several of the little Browning autos, a couple were very collectible, and I wish they were still in my collection. This Junior Colt that I have, came to me from a friend. It was in it's original box with all the papers etc, The problem was that it had been in a basement flood, and was in real poor shape. My friend wanted to know if it would be safe to shoot, and was it worth anything. When I told him not in it's badly rusted, and pitted shape, he said, just get rid if it for me! I had soaked it in rust remover, and spent a lot of time trying to make it safe to shoot, but seriously considered trashing it, and maybe should have followed his instructions, and got rid of it, but, couldn't bear to do it, with all of the time spent. It's still not very pretty, but I used some cold bluing on it, to protect it from rusting again, made sure that it would function properly, and still have it. Thanks for sharing it with me.
Chubbo
 

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Walther TPH in .25

Here's an Interarms TPH in 25acp. They are wicked rare, but not impossible to find. Unlike the .22 version, the .25's are virtually 100% reliable. Given their intended use (1 to 3 yards, multiple rounds expended) the initial double action trigger pull is acceptable.
- Also, magazines for the .25 are inexpensive and easy to find. Magazines for the .22 are very difficult to find.
 

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Whoever shot that bear had a helluva lot of courage and faith in that pistol.

Or, maybe it was a case of raw desperation!

Have you seen that ad for a Belgian Clement or Bayard .380 that supposedly killed a Cape buffalo?!

I think it was a Bayard, the one about the size of a big .25 auto.
I think the event was in the then-Belgian Congo. No details, alas.

I wonder where both that .25 and the little .380 hit those animals.

Of course, Harry Wolhuter killed a lion with a knife with a six-inch blade. It had him by one shoulder and that shoulder never healed right. The knife, sheath, and belt, and the lion's hide were displayed for years at Kruger Natl. Park. May still be there.
 
I learn something new every day! I never knew JayPee made thigh holsters for the 1908 pistol!


That holster is clearly made for a larger gun, prob. a Colt .32 or .380. Similar ones were made to fit the steering column on cars.

I once published an article in a knife magazine about whether women could actually carry knives or small guns on a leg. It didn't work out well in practice. The knife or gun was almost always too heavy and would slide around or just drop free as she moved. My model said she was very uncomfortable with a boot knife on her thigh, as she had to strap it on so tight that it was very uncomfortable, and it still wasn't secure. However, she had excellent legs and that helped to sell that article, which was fun to photograph...

BTW, we tried both a copy of the Loveless boot knife by maker Rick Darby and a small Gerber boot knife, also designed by R.W.
Loveless. I think the Fallkniven Garm might fare better, now that I have one.

BTW, the girl wasn't a real life version of Modesty Blaise. She wasn't even normally a professional model. She was a fashion buyer for a major dept. store and thought the idea of hiding a knife or gun under her skirt was a little kinky or perverse. Maybe having a more positive attitude would have let her figure out some mode of carry that worked better. But I doubt it. I think a sheath clipped to the side of her bra would work better, or a knife hung on her neck with a stout string. I have a very small A.G. Russell knife in a hard plastic sheath that'd work for that. And the smallest of the Gerber Applegate-Fairbairn locking folders might work on a bra strap. The main strap, not a shoulder one, of course.

But I think leg holsters are in the realm of fiction. BTW, my model was quite a bit better looking than the girl pictured here with that Colt .25. I'm pretty sure that that helped to sell the story. Knife magazine editors are human, and almost all have been male. :D
 
I believe that I would have more confidence in the .22, especially if it fired .22 LR, due to the higher velocity. Another story I believe is that the Japenese rifle cartridges used in WWII were .25's, for rifles not pistols. Anyone recall?

Yes: the rifles you mean were 6.5 mm, about on par with the Mannlicher-Schoenauer 6.5 mm that killed a number of elephants.

The cartridge is not a pistol round.

Some called them .25's, but only because they didn't understand the metric system and tried to equate them to US ammunition. The .257 Roberts would be closest, but is a better round, I think.

In, Guadalcanal Diary, Richard Tregaskis called them .25's, because the Marines he accompanied did. But they aren't.
 
I believe that I would have more confidence in the .22, especially if it fired .22 LR, due to the higher velocity. Another story I believe is that the Japenese rifle cartridges used in WWII were .25's, for rifles not pistols. Anyone recall?

The Arisaka Type 38, originating in 1905-1906, chambered a 6.5x50mm cartridge. 6.5mm = 0.255906 in. This gave way to the Type 99 (1939), which fired a 7.7x58mm round. This was essentially the British .303 round, but rimless instead of rimmed. Both types were used in WWII.

John
 
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my Beretta is a .22 short. tried carrying on bicycle rides, sweat started rusting it, switched to NAA .22 LR works and feels good (stainless). usually carry the NAA .22 Mag.: 5 shots, no reload. defensive get out of the area gun! shoots to 20 yards accurately lighter and smaller than the Beretta.
 

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