Readiness of firearm

[Muss Muggins]

. . . I have been carrying handguns for nearly 30 years (since age 13) . . .

If you have been carrying a loaded handgun with the intention of using it in self defense since age 13, which is clearly the substance of this thread, my hat is off to you. Otherwise, keep the hyperbole from the discussion . . .

 

[lrrifleman]

From one Eagle Scout ('72) to another, you need to be prepared. If there is an imminent threat to the safety of my children or myself, I can't risk the microseconds necessary to bring a handgun into battery. When I carry a wheelgun, the cylinder is full, if I am carrying a 1911, it is in Condition 1. If I am carrying my 439 or my Mauser HSc, they are loaded mag +1, hammer dropped, and ready to go with the first shot DA.

Any other way just turns the handgun into a paperweight!

 

[Watchdog]

Mr. Murphy would beg to differ the one time a jacket cinch/chapstick/pen finds it's way into your trigger guard and your life is changed forever.

Who's Mr. Murphy? A member of this forum? What does he carry? I mean, besides Chapstick and pens and stuff.

 

[.455_Hunter]

If you have been carrying a loaded handgun with the intention of using it in self defense since age 13, which is clearly the substance of this thread, my hat is off to you. Otherwise, keep the hyperbole from the discussion . . .

Yes- It may cause some people to soil their dainties, but I started carrying a defensive revolver on an almost daily basis at 13, and it was not a .22.

No hyperbole required, and I am not sure why you are the self appointed person to judge anyway.

 

[.455_Hunter]

Who's Mr. Murphy? A member of this forum? What does he carry? I mean, besides Chapstick and pens and stuff.

Why a safetyless polystriker, of course....

... and a matching Series 80 1911 with the hammer cocked, thumb safety off and the grip safety pinned, because there is ZERO practical difference between that and most polystrikers.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Yes- It may cause some people to soil their dainties, but I started carrying a defensive revolver on an almost daily basis at 13, and it was not a .22.

No hyperbole required, and I am not sure why you are the self appointed person to judge anyway.

Not judging, but you seem a little defensive having to defend my question. Just glad I didn't live in your neighborhood. Nothing to see here, Mr. Norris. Everyone move along.

 

[.455_Hunter]

Not judging, but you seem a little defensive having to defend my question. Just glad I didn't live in your neighborhood. Nothing to see here, Mr. Norris. Everyone move along.

The neighborhood was (is) fine. The primary threat at the time was (is) four-legged, though the two legged threat is increasing nowadays.

 

[Rastoff]

If you're not comfortable with carrying with one in the chamber, why carry the gun at all?

 

[eaglescout316]

What do you mean......"only has those safeties that try to determine if I REALLY wanted to pull the trigger" how does a safety determine anything for you? You control it not the other way around.

That's what a grip safety and trigger safety do, try to prevent the gun from going off except when the trigger is intentionally pulled. It's not about some sort of "the gun is in control" hyperbole. What did you think grip safeties and trigger safeties are for?

 

[Arik]

That's what a grip safety and trigger safety do, try to prevent the gun from going off except when the trigger is intentionally pulled. It's not about some sort of "the gun is in control" hyperbole. What did you think grip safeties and trigger safeties are for?

The way you phrased it. .. the safeties determine..... They don't determine anything

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[Kanewpadle]

I only way I will carry a semi-auto with a loaded chamber is on DA platform with a full weight / full stroke trigger (safety- 3914, or no safety- P239) or a SA platform with a safety (1911).

No way will I carry a chambered striker gun with only a 5lb trigger moving 1/4" as the only thing preventing a discharge.

I have been carrying handguns for nearly 30 years (since age 13), and I don't need "training" to prove to me that something intrinsically unsafe is somehow safe because you are supposed to keep your "booger hook off the bang switch". Mr. Murphy would beg to differ the one time a jacket cinch/chapstick/pen finds it's way into your trigger guard and your life is changed forever.

I also carried a revolver at the age of 13 or 14. Some people don't understand what it's like to travel in bear country. So it's easy for them to not understand. Still isn't an excuse to bash you. But there are those that judge instead of try to understand.

 

[eaglescout316]

Welcome to the forum. Ignore the ole curmudgeons that hate repeat threads. They tend to forget that new thinking, ideas, or opinions may be offered.

Any and all guns that you rely on for self defense should be loaded at all times. If you don't feel comfortable with that gun, it doesn't matter what type of gun it is. It simply means that you need to get more familiar with it. Which means practice. It does not mean that you need another type of gun.

Go shoot the gun. A lot.

Thanks for the welcome.

I didn't say i'm uncomfortable with the gun, or concerned, or scared of it, or any of the other assumptions that seem to be popular. I just wondered what common practice would seem to be, since most of what I see online is just people debating which kind of holster is best, revolvers vs. semi-auto, which caliber, which ammo, etc.

Somehow that turned me into a neophyte that would be better off carrying a rock...

 

[eaglescout316]

The way you phrased it. .. the safeties determine..... They don't determine anything

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I said "try to determine" as in their purpose is to differentiate between intentional trigger pulling and incidental.

 

[Arik]

I said "try to determine" as in their purpose is to differentiate between intentional trigger pulling and incidental.

Exactly. Safety doesn't "do" or "try" it's all you.

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[Kanewpadle]

Thanks for the welcome.

I didn't say i'm uncomfortable with the gun, or concerned, or scared of it, or any of the other assumptions that seem to be popular. I just wondered what common practice would seem to be, since most of what I see online is just people debating which kind of holster is best, revolvers vs. semi-auto, which caliber, which ammo, etc.

Somehow that turned me into a neophyte that would be better off carrying a rock...

Then I guess you have your answer. Don't worry about the negative stuff.

 

[.455_Hunter]

I also carried a revolver at the age of 13 or 14. Some people don't understand what it's like to travel in bear country. So it's easy for them to not understand. Still isn't an excuse to bash you. But there are those that judge instead of try to understand.

Yes- It is difficult to comprehend for some people across the country that the threat from bears or cats can be a daily occurrence, not just a theoretical talking point for internet forums.

 

[eaglescout316]

The guy's a new member, just joined last month. He even apologized for the thread, in case it'd been discussed before. Maybe he hasn't learned to do a search here yet. Give him a break why don't you?

Every forum has its own culture on whether or not it's worse to ask something that's been discussed before or "Lazarus" an old dead thread.

 

[eaglescout316]

I carry revolvers 95% of the time... a Ruger LCP the other 5%

They have long trigger pulls that give me confidence they won't go making decisions on their own and shoot off any of my favorite parts or put holes in things not needing holes...

Having said that, you have to have full confidence in what you carry. That comes with time and experience handling any weapon.
I wouldn't feel as easy carrying a striker fired auto with a "light" trigger....simply because I just don't have a lot of experience with them. I "know" they are safe and are safely carried by tons of guys every day, my friends included. I would need more time handling them before trading out my wheel guns.

I just don't agree that someone otherwise well trained is "un-armed or should just carry rocks" if they have a firearm with an unloaded chamber. Yes they may be making things harder than they need be... but if I had to choose between a Glock 19 with a full magazine and empty chamber or a bag of rocks...c'mon guys...really??

All of us are at different stages of our walk through life as legally armed folks. If someone feels a need to carry with an empty chamber until they are more confident or have time/money for more training...who am I to judge or call them names.

Haha! "We were going to give you a gun but you'd have to pull back the slide, so here's a rock instead."

 

[.455_Hunter]

I like when new people ask questions- it gets them engaged into the forum. I dislike grumpy old "know it all" trolls who say "use the search function" to seek out their pearls (or is that turds) of wisdom they posted six months ago.

 

[Watchdog]

If carry your gun in a proper holster, the trigger is covered until drawn to fire.

That's 99% true for striker fired pistols.

Not always true for revolvers, 1911s, Hi-Powers, and similar pistols. Unless maybe you're carrying a 1911 style pistol in some sort of a flap holster.

I've seen some 1911 holsters that cover the trigger, but I don't know anyone personally who actually carries in one.