Brill Holster

Brill holsters, like those by Myres, have that sort of Texas mystique about them. I think that contributes to their value, even though that monetary value may be unrealistic except to collectors. I understand Texas Rangers liked Brill holsters.

But this one that just sold for over $2K...well, I don't know. It'd have to have belonged to someone famous for it to interest me.

Of course, the buyer may have wanted it to round out a particular look for a display of his vintage Colt, who knows. As someone else mentions, you never know what those Colt fellas are gonna get up to next.

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I have found that when some guys find a holster they like,
especially on auctions, they don't let a little thing like money
prevent them from having it. I have been guilty of that syndrome
a few times myself, but not too bad.
 
Late to this party.

Too much money for certain! A similar Brill for a 4 3/4-inch Colt Single Action Army was picked up at a San Anglo, Texas gun show in summer of 2016, from a vintage holster dealer no less, for little more than a tenth of that auction price realized.

For that kind of money, I'd sooner purchase another ratty Colt Single Action Army in an "off-caliber" than the holster for one.





 
I have found that when some guys find a holster they like,
especially on auctions, they don't let a little thing like money
prevent them from having it. I have been guilty of that syndrome a few times myself, but not too bad.

I've done the same thing, too. Last time it was a little Heiser, I think. I was determined to have that holster! Didn't even have a gun for it, mind you. So I bought it. Turned around and gave it away to a fellow forum member. What can I say?

Glad this came back up! Remember, this ole boy wasn't bidding against himself. There were others interested at that loftly price also.

That's right. Makes me think something else was going on...maybe a little personal rivalry or something, who knows. Or maybe someone knew something about the holster no one else knew? $2070 is a lot of money.
 
This thread is too good to let it fade off into the sunset.
The first floral carved Brill holster that I can recall was a photo
of the so called Butch Cassidy holster. I just Googled Butch
Cassidy auction holster photo and a bunch of them came up.
James D. Julia was the auctioneer. As you (Red) pointed out
it was impossible for Butch Cassidy to own a Brill holster. The
dates don't work out.

The holster also is not on the detailed receipt for the Colt. Certainly Brill didnt exist in 1900.
 
For those who don't know, A.W. Brill was the father of Nellie Connolly, wife of TX Gov. John B. Connolly, wounded when JFK was shot in Dallas.

If you want a Brill-like holster today, El Paso Saddlery has it, their Model 1930 Austin. I have one and it has their usual excellent, traditional workmanship.
 
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For those who don't know, A.W. Brill was the father of Nellie Connolly, wife of TX Gov. John B. Connolly, wounded when JFK was shot in Dallas.

If you want a Brill-like holster today, El Paso Saddlery has it, their Model 1930 Austin. I have one and it has their usual excellent, traditional workmanship.

A sore point for me. EPS does not make their version according to Brill's ve rsion. In a true 'Brill' (actually developed by Rabensburg for the Texas Rangers) and its period copies, the leather cuff that encircles the holster body forms the belt loop tunnel and quite precisely. That requires the upper edges of the cuff to be parallel to the fold that creates the fender; and the distance from the fold to suit a particular belt width so the holster won't slide along the belt. It was an early concealment holster for the Rangers and wasn't worn on a wide gunbelt of the era. Brills also had three welts and these jammed the revolver into position. Yes, the auto fersion was different.
 
For all the good it will do, what with Photobucket likely to pull the plug on my account with them soon, will stick up the Brill holster tribe this morning, along with the guns they fit.





If ol' Red can trademark "Holsorian" then I need to secure my term for a certain affliction with regards to old leather for I think I have contracted a "Brillness."

I've also tested positive and been diagnosed with Heiserosis, Myres Syndrome, Eubankitis, and Lawrence's Disease as well. It all started with a touch of Bucheimerenza years ago when I was young and bought one new. I'm done for if I ever come down with Meaneamia or get a Frazierus.
 
For all the good it will do, what with Photobucket likely to pull the plug on my account with them soon, will stick up the Brill holster tribe this morning, along with the guns they fit.





If ol' Red can trademark "Holsorian" then I need to secure my term for a certain affliction with regards to old leather for I think I have contracted a "Brillness."

I've also tested positive and been diagnosed with Heiserosis, Myres Syndrome, Eubankitis, and Lawrence's Disease as well. It all started with a touch of Bucheimerenza years ago when I was young and bought one new. I'm done for if I ever come down with Meaneamia or get a Frazierus.

Fabulous. Surely one of these pics should be a centrefold in The Book. May I?

Your brillnesses are equally fab. I hear that Lawrence Disease is not fatal, nor Eubankitis; but Heiserosis or Myres Syndrome -- man, you don't want to get those!

I don't suffer from any of those illnesses; I'm the virus itself :-). Will do some research to see; ah, here it is: the common holster virus, proper name Nicholodeon.
 
Fabulous. Surely one of these pics should be a centrefold in The Book. May I?

Your brillnesses are equally fab. I hear that Lawrence Disease is not fatal, nor Eubankitis; but Heiserosis or Myres Syndrome -- man, you don't want to get those!

I don't suffer from any of those illnesses; I'm the virus itself :-). Will do some research to see; ah, here it is: the common holster virus, proper name Nicholodeon.

Sure Red, but you better grab it fast before that wretched Photobucket notification replaces it.

Besides, wouldn't you rather have a superior photograph than that one which was only laid out on the opened tailgate of the pickup this morning before the sun got so high as to play havoc with my pitiful camera?

I mean ... the pistolas are still wearing their coats of RIG from their slumbers in the safe. I didn't even wipe them off before laying them out.
 
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Sure Red, but you better grab it fast before that wretched Photobucket notification replaces it.

Besides, wouldn't you rather have a superior photograph than that one which was only laid out on the opened tailgate of the pickup this morning before the sun got so high as to play havoc with my pitiful camera?

I mean ... the pistolas are still wearing their coats of RIG from their slumbers in the safe. I didn't even wipe them off before laying them out.

Hope you fellas don't mind, but I posted these two pictures here on the forum's own storage system, so that they will exist even if Photobucket tries to hold them hostage:

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I'm still experimenting with this, so bear with me if it doesn't work the first time. The saved picture is really located in "Pictures &Albums", in an album I named "Some of my Borrowed Pictures", and all you or any forum member has to do is copy the BB Code, and paste it in to the post and the picture will appear in the post without a thumbnail. Thumbnails are great if you are using a desktop computer, but they are a pain if you use an iPad or iPhone like I do.
 
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No need to start a new thread --

I found myself scrutinising a newspaper article about Gov. John Connally's wife (written after the death of JFK) and what I saw led me on a search. It's much-mentioned that Mrs. Connally was Arno Brill's daughter. And in this tiny, faded print I notice it mentions that her mother's brother -- that is, Arno Brill's brother-in-law -- was once Mayor of Llano TX.

Say, I think: N.J. Rabensburg, who is said to have invented the Brill and built it 1932 until at least 1955, was also a Mayor of Llano. Wonder what the sequence was?

Turns out that Mayor Inks, who was a hard-charger who died young, literally handed the key to the city to the new mayor, N.J., in 1931.

By 1932 we know that N.J. himself had bailed and returned to Austin where his address was 302 E. 6th St -- Brill headquarters. Mr. Inks likely maintained the link between the Brills and Rabensburg; though the latter had hundreds of relatives around TX.

Recall that in 1933, unemployment as a result of the Crash of '29 hit 25% (full employment is considered 4-5%). And Inks handed off after 7 years as mayor, citing the difficulty of doing that job and operating his flailing automobile sales business, too.

Likely N.J. felt the same in about a year and jumped at an offer to return to Austin to work with Arno again.

It was a mighty small world in those days (P.S., virtually all the big names were German born or descent and were Masons; even Tom Threepersons was a Mason and so were his wives #2 and #3 as members of the Order of the Eastern Star).(Ditto John Berns of Berns-Martin, and his wife).
 
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Newton Joseph Rabensburg-Holster, Belt, Saddle Maker

From what's been learnt over the past year about the history of the Brill holster, it would seem then that this particular Brill was made by N.J. Rabensburg for Brill (the rounded corners of the basketweave template). N.J. appears to have been called back to Austin in 1932 perhaps for this express purpose; and he set up shop literally next door to where Brill had been since 1929. N.J. had been mayor of Llano TX for a year and wouldn't have left there on a whim. He spent the rest of his life in Austin, too, whereas he had moved around a LOT prior. The Brills (August and Arno) were building Brillville on Lake Austin to the NW of Austin itself and after WWII intervened it was opened to the public in 1948. N.J. retired in 1955 (began collecting SS and told at least one interviewer in the 1950s that he was retired) and died 1961. So: between 1932 and 1955, whereas I would expect that an EARLY Brill would have more value (so 1912 to 1929) (appear to have the square corners for the basket perimeter) (not decisive) as being made by the Brills themselves. The design did not exist prior to 1907 when N.J. created it with August at W.T. Wroe in Austin for Capt. Hughes. There is a Brill reputed to have belonged to Butch Cassidy but the design did not exist, nor did the A.W. Brill company, during Butch's lifetime (conspiracy theorists aside).

I am A. Neale Rabensburg, grandson of Newton Joseph Rabensburg. Newton was born in 1889 in Wilson County, Texas and raised in Fayette County, Texas following the 1890 death of his father, Henry B. Rabensburg, a saddler in Wilson and adjacent counties. There is presently an active exhibit on N. J. Rabensburg in La Grange, Texas at the Fayette Heritage Museum and Archives. Mr. Rabensburg was in business in La Grange from 1915 to 1920. His store located on the town square was Zwiener and Rabensburg. He and his family moved to Llano in 1920 where he stayed until the early 1930's. He received an offer from the A. W. Brill Company in Austin and left his position in Llano as Mayor. There is an Austin American newspaper article written in 1959 on his life and leather career. I was there with him on occasions during his retirement. He had a home office located in his garage located at 1903 N. Lamar located on a hill across from Pease Park and Shoal Creek (Austin). I watched him make his holsters and belts. I had one of his holsters and belts as a child. I can identify for the most part his designs. I have much of his home workshop including tools, stitching horse, granite block, a (cc: 1890) Sessions Wall Clock from Parry Buggies, carriage toting box for belts, early photographs including one of his pre-1915 "parade" saddles, 1961 obituary, 1959 PR newspaper article, photos of a Zwiener and Rabensburg restored buggy in the Hidalgo Museum in south Texas, his writing desk and spool draw, early 20th Century wall art painted on leather. I have photographs of him as a young man and in retirement. Newton died of a stroke at the age of 71 or thereabouts He is buried with his wife, Lillian Edna Speckels in Austin. Together, they had three sons and two grandchildren.
 
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I am A. Neale Rabensburg, grandson of Newton Joseph Rabensburg. Newton was born in 1889 in Wilson County, Texas and raised in Fayette County, Texas following the 1890 death of his father, Henry B. Rabensburg, a saddler in Wilson and adjacent counties. There is presently an active exhibit on N. J. Rabensburg in La Grange, Texas at the Fayette Heritage Museum and Archives. Mr. Rabensburg was in business in La Grange from 1915 to 1920. His store located on the town square was Zwiener and Rabensburg. He and his family moved to Llano in 1920 where he stayed until the early 1930's. He received an offer from the A. W. Brill Company in Austin and left his position in Llano as Mayor. There is an Austin American newspaper article written in 1959 on his life and leather career. I was there with him on occasions during his retirement. He had a home office located in his garage located at 1903 W. Lamar located on a hill across from Pease Park and Waller Creek (Austin). I watched him make his holsters and belts. I had one of his holsters and belts as a child. I can identify for the most part his designs. I have much of his home workshop including tools, stitching horse, granite block, a (cc: 1890) Sessions Wall Clock from Parry Buggies, carriage toting box for belts, early photographs including one of his pre-1915 "parade" saddles, 1961 obituary, 1959 PR newspaper article, photos of a Zwiener and Rabensburg restored buggy in the Hidalgo Museum in south Texas, his writing desk and spool draw, early 20th Century wall art painted on leather. I have photographs of him as a young man and in retirement. Newton died of a stroke at the age of 73 or thereabouts He is buried with his wife, Lillian Edna Speckels in Austin. Together, they had three sons and two grandchildren.

G'day to you, (Aubrey) Neale Rabensburg. I've been looking to reach you for about two years now, because your grandfather claims to have actually invented the Brill holster. He died, not of a stroke, but of acute pneumonitis, a rare disease that took him quickly:

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I will send you a PM and hope to hear back from you. A group of us are building a coffee table book about 20th century gunleather and the Brill, and your grandfather, figure prominently in it.
 
WOW, welcome Mr. A. Neale Rabensburg to the S&W forum! It is fantastic to have you here. We are lovers of everything holsters around here. We also appreciate and crave the history associated with them. I know we would love to see pictures, of any and all, of the items you mentioned in your post above. Please post them in this thread when you get a chance. Thank you very much for your contributions here.
Larry
 


I am A. Neale Rabensburg, grandson of Newton Joseph Rabensburg. Newton was born in 1889 in Wilson County, Texas and raised in Fayette County, Texas following the 1890 death of his father, Henry B. Rabensburg, a saddler in Wilson and adjacent counties. There is presently an active exhibit on N. J. Rabensburg in La Grange, Texas at the Fayette Heritage Museum and Archives. Mr. Rabensburg was in business in La Grange from 1915 to 1920. His store located on the town square was Zwiener and Rabensburg. He and his family moved to Llano in 1920 where he stayed until the early 1930's. He received an offer from the A. W. Brill Company in Austin and left his position in Llano as Mayor. There is an Austin American newspaper article written in 1959 on his life and leather career. I was there with him on occasions during his retirement. He had a home office located in his garage located at 1903 W. Lamar located on a hill across from Pease Park and Waller Creek (Austin). I watched him make his holsters and belts. I had one of his holsters and belts as a child. I can identify for the most part his designs. I have much of his home workshop including tools, stitching horse, granite block, a (cc: 1890) Sessions Wall Clock from Parry Buggies, carriage toting box for belts, early photographs including one of his pre-1915 "parade" saddles, 1961 obituary, 1959 PR newspaper article, photos of a Zwiener and Rabensburg restored buggy in the Hidalgo Museum in south Texas, his writing desk and spool draw, early 20th Century wall art painted on leather. I have photographs of him as a young man and in retirement. Newton died of a stroke at the age of 73 or thereabouts He is buried with his wife, Lillian Edna Speckels in Austin. Together, they had three sons and two grandchildren.

I grew up unaware of the “Brill” design. This is a new subject for me. I knew my grandfather was popular because I continued to get a few forwarded requests for holster orders from as far away as Detroit, Michigan for several years following his death. The Brill name was also a familiar subject including the store location on 6th Street in downtown Austin. Arno Brill III, who was a guest of mine in La Grange, Texas several years ago, was unaware of N. J. Rabensburg and his connection with the A. W. Brill Company. This caught me off-guard since my grandfather supposedly had a strong connection with the Brill company and a probable ownership position. However, Brill III denied any such connection with Rabensburg. The Brill Company website also makes no mention of N. J. Rabensburg and yet displays his holsters as their own. I believe I can readily identify my grandfather’s designs, and many on the Brill website are his work. I have in my possession the A. W. Bill Company leather stamp used on probably many of these same holsters.
I did, however, meet from Mrs. Arno Inks Brill at my grandmother Rabensburg’s home on W. 29th in Austin during the late 1960’s. She had decided to return my grandfather’s writing/spool draw desk, which had been given to her by my grandmother following my grandfather’s death. I gladly accepted the gift. I did see the same Mrs. Brill along with her daughter Nellie (Idanell) Connally during the mid-1980’s in Houston at a local country club. My parents and I were waiting in the Lobby for our car from valet parking. The meeting with Mrs. Brill, Mrs. Connally and my father was a happy reunion.
My grandfather, Newton Joseph Rabensburg, was born in Floresville, Wilson County but raised in Fayette County in the Ellinger area. His mother was Wilhelmina Ehlinger married first to Henry B. Rabensburg, a saddler, born in Bastrop, Texas and, second, to Charles Girndt, who would later become Fayette County Sheriff. The year 1907 appears to be pivotal because Newton departs the Ellinger area and moves to La Grange, the county seat of Fayette County. As a young adult of 18 years, he starts his saddlery career with La Grange Saddlery located on the southwest corner of the town square. I now understand that in 1907 N. J. Rabensburg contacts August Brill, who is a clerk with the W. T. Wroe Saddlery in Austin and submits a design for what became known as the “Brill”, which was approved by Captain Hughes and adopted by the Texas Rangers during the years 1913 to 1955.
Newton’s Ehlinger family are prominent citizens of Fayette County. The town of Ellinger (Anglicized) was named in honor of his grandfather. His uncles were lawyers, judges and the County Clerk and founders of the local Catholic churches. His grandfather was a veteran of the 1836 Battle of San Jacinto, which gave independence to Texas from Mexico and caused the acquisition of the western United States into the Union (the mountain states, California and the upper west coast). N. J. Rabensburg’s wife, Lillian Edna Speckels, was also from prominent family stock. Her father was a local merchant, an architect, Mayor of La Grange, founder of St. Paul’s Lutheran Church, Chief of the LG Fire Department and President of the State Firemen’s Association. Her von Rosenberg family are considered by some historians to be one of the most important Prussian families of central Texas.
N. J. Rabensburg left La Grange in 1909 for Dallas where he worked for an unknown period of time. His tenure in Price, Utah was perhaps longer. Newton may have also traveled to New Mexico and Montana according to some accounts. He returned to La Grange, Texas in 1915 and purchased a partnership position in an existing saddlery, which was renamed Zwiener and Rabensburg and located in two stores on the northside of the town square. He married that same year to Lillian Speckels in St. Paul’s Lutheran Church. Lillian was a strong Lutheran.
N. J. Rabensburg and his young family moved in 1920 to Llano, Texas and started a saddlery business in that community. I do not have his business history in Llano at this time but do know that he was involved as a town alderman and for a brief time as Mayor. Mayor Inks of Llano handed him the keys. The Inks family name appears in Llano and with Mrs. Arno Inks Brill in Austin.
I was not aware that N. J. Rabensburg moved twice to Austin during the early 1930’s. Perhaps the first time was to test the situation and leave his family behind. In Austin, the Rabensburg family lived on the top of a steep hill west of downtown on 7th Street. In the late 1930’s, Newton and Lillian built a new home located on Shoal Creek Boulevard on the side of hill across from Pease Park. Prior to World War II, a four lane N. Lamar Boulevard cut through and shaved off part of their hill and their address changed to 1903 N. Lamar.
During the early 1950’s, N. J. Rabensburg was working out of his home store located in his two-car garage. He may have continued to sell products for the A. W. Brill Company but not at the downtown 6th Street business location. In 1959, the Austin American newspaper wrote an article with photograph about his leather career. That article notes his connection with the Brill Company.
 
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I grew up unaware of the “Brill” design. This is a new subject for me. I knew my grandfather was popular because I continued to get a few forwarded requests for holster orders from as far away as Detroit, Michigan for several years following his death. The Brill name was also a familiar subject including the store location on 6th Street in downtown Austin. Arno Brill III, who was a guest of mine in La Grange, Texas several years ago, was unaware of N. J. Rabensburg and his connection with the A. W. Brill Company. This caught me off-guard since my grandfather supposedly had a strong connection with the Brill company and a probable ownership position. However, Brill III denied any such connection with Rabensburg. The Brill Company website also makes no mention of N. J. Rabensburg and yet displays his holsters as their own. I believe I can readily identify my grandfather’s designs, and many on the Brill website are his work. I have in my possession the A. W. Bill Company leather stamp used on probably many of these same holsters.
I did, however, meet from Mrs. Arno Inks Brill at my grandmother Rabensburg’s home on W. 29th in Austin during the late 1960’s. She had decided to return my grandfather’s writing/spool draw desk, which had been given to her by my grandmother following my grandfather’s death. I gladly accepted the gift. I did see the same Mrs. Brill along with her daughter Nellie (Idanell) Connally during the mid-1980’s in Houston at a local country club. My parents and I were waiting in the Lobby for our car from valet parking. The meeting with Mrs. Brill, Mrs. Connally and my father was a happy reunion.
My grandfather, Newton Joseph Rabensburg, was born in Floresville, Wilson County but raised in Fayette County in the Ellinger area. His mother was Wilhelmina Ehlinger married first to Henry B. Rabensburg, a saddler, born in Bastrop, Texas and, second, to Charles Girndt, who would later become Fayette County Sheriff. The year 1907 appears to be pivotal because Newton departs the Ellinger area and moves to La Grange, the county seat of Fayette County. As a young adult of 18 years, he starts his saddlery career with La Grange Saddlery located on the southwest corner of the town square. I now understand that in 1907 N. J. Rabensburg contacts August Brill, who is a clerk with the W. T. Wroe Saddlery in Austin and submits a design for what became known as the “Brill”, which was approved by Captain Hughes and adopted by the Texas Rangers during the years 1913 to 1955.

My good friend crazyphil aka lucky-b let me know about your latest post, Neale. A large amount of information has been gathered about your grandfather's contribution to the creation of the Brill holster and I'm happy to share any and all of it with you if you have an interest. Some of the information you've recited is supported by this evidence, and some of it is contradicted; and we can help each other by sorting it all out for 'holstory' (holster history). Options would be to reach out via the PM (private message) system; or simply keep posting. You should be especially interested in an article written in 2008 by a chap, still living the last time I checked, named Stan Nelson who met your grandfather around 1955 at which time Rabensburg (the name he gave) outlined to Nelson how he came to invent the Brill (didn't call it that but made a pair of them for Nelson) for Capt. Hughes. Here is one of them, and you will surely recognise it:

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My good friend crazyphil aka lucky-b let me know about your latest post, Neale. A large amount of information has been gathered about your grandfather's contribution to the creation of the Brill holster and I'm happy to share any and all of it with you if you have an interest. Some of the information you've recited is supported by this evidence, and some of it is contradicted; and we can help each other by sorting it all out for 'holstory' (holster history). Options would be to reach out via the PM (private message) system; or simply keep posting. You should be especially interested in an article written in 2008 by a chap, still living the last time I checked, named Stan Nelson who met your grandfather around 1955 at which time Rabensburg (the name he gave) outlined to Nelson how he came to invent the Brill (didn't call it that but made a pair of them for Nelson) for Capt. Hughes. Here is one of them, and you will surely recognise it:

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I do have the Stan Nelson article titled "Some Thoughts on Gun Leather". It was retrieved recently and has been posted in part within the Zwiener and Rabensburg exhibit in La Grange, Texas located 60 miles southeast of Austin. A newspaper article in the Fayette County Record will be published tomorrow on the exhibit. I will try to forward photos from the same. The exhibit, however, has been open for viewing for about 30 days. It continues to evolve as new information such as the "Brill" comes to light.

What I have stated so far are my own personal recollections of my grandfather during the 1950s and from newspaper accounts in Fayette and Travis Counties plus some census data. We (the archivists and myself) are attempting a timeline of N. J. Rabensburg's early leather making career. From what I have read recently, it appears that the "Brill" design was presented in 1907 and adopted for use by the Texas Rangers in 1913. From a newspaper account, N. J. Rabensburg had been working in La Grange at the La Grange Saddlery when he departs for Dallas in 1909. Census data for 1910 has him living in a boarding house in Dallas. It is known that he was also in Price, Utah immediately prior to returning to La Grange in 1915. We have a photo of him with a saddle in Price and newspaper account(s) of his LG return, partnership purchase and marriage in 1915. I will ask the archivist if we have any evidence of N. J. Rabensburg in La Grange in 1907, the year of the "Brill". I thought we did.
 
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