New Shield 380 EZ... Nope. Junk.

One gun to rule them all!!!

:D

Some of you guys think in terms of guns, I think in terms of people.

We have an aging population. Smith and Wesson is addressing the needs of an emerging group wanting self-protection and ease of use of their firearm.

I'm racking my brain (get it? :rolleyes:) trying to make this more complicated than that, but I can't.

I like it. :cool:
 
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okiegtrider said:
It says right in the Julie Golob article that lots of people asked for it. Must be true.
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"When we set out to design the M&P380 Shield EZ pistol, our goal was to deliver an all-around, easy to use personal protection pistol – from loading and carrying, to shooting and cleaning. Throughout the development process, we focused on key areas that customers told us were important – the ease of racking the slide and loading the magazine. With that in mind, we reduced the amount of force required to rack the slide, and developed a magazine that is both easy and efficient to load. We have incorporated both of these new features into the M&P380 Shield EZ pistol, allowing consumers of all statures and strengths the opportunity to own, comfortably practice with, and effectively utilize this exciting new pistol. The new M&P380 Shield EZ pistol provides an easy-to-use personal protection option for both first-time shooters and experienced handgunners alike." – Jan Mladek, General Manager of M&P and S&W Brands

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The GRIP SAFETY is hideous and only belongs on 1911's.
None of your other M&P range of pistols has the grip safety which is nothing but a nuisance and for that reason I will never get one despite how much I like the rest of the gun.;)

Having openly discussed this pistol in a local firearm forum recently not a single person of 35 individual posts had one single good word to say about the grip safety on this gun.:o

The general feeling is that it does not suit the target audience like ladies and the purpose of it's intended use namely EDC.

Please don't ever fit a hand safety to any other Smith& Wesson pistol except on your 1911 models. :rolleyes:
 
GerSan69 said:
Stupid all the way to the bank.
We spend way too much time looking at things from our own "narrow" viewpoint. Narrow, in the sense that we don't look at something as useful to others, only if it suits us and us alone.
These days, everything gets market-tested and polled and focus-grouped to the nth degree before it's brought to the general public. Big companies become big companies because they are relatively certain their product has a chance of selling well. Are there exceptions? Of course. Nothing is perfect. But they're entitled to try. And you never know, the folks it IS geared toward might love it.
Clearly, this gun isn't "perfect" in some folks' eyes. That's OK. I just don't see how getting all PO'ed and almost "insulting" about it is so important. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
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Nothing stupid about researching what the majority out there want rather than what you perceive as what they might like because you happened to like it.

As so many people rightfully point out on this forum a "Grip Safety" does not belong on a gun intended for "EZ" of use particularly when it is a small calibre and is a evey day carry gun which should be simple to use.

Why complicate matters when you are trying to compete with the likes of the fantastic new SIG P365?(I don't like SIG but it is undoubtedly the best gun since the M&P Shield was made).
Don't take my word for\it but let us talk again in 1year from now:)

Given the timing of this launch Smith &Wesson could have seriously capitalised on the launch of this gun had it been a worthy contender and opponent to SIG's P365.

I am now officially and truly ashamed to utter the words "M&P SHIELD" knowing that this horrible 380 hybrid shares the same Shield family title as my iconic M&P Shield 9mm. :mad:
 
Some people like the 380. Goes way back to 1908 when the Colt went from 1903 32 acp to 380 in 1908. Beware of the Colt 1903-08 they fire if dropped,even if safety is on. The hammer jumps the sear on impact. Allso the German army picked the 32 over the 380 in both wars and post-war l.e.It penetrates better to reach vitals , the 380. Fmj is the best for defence and well as 32. Hollow points are a waste in less than 9mm. JOHN BROWNING FIXED THE PROBLEM OF THE 1903,08 POCKET AUTO WITH THE 1910 BROWNING POCKET AUTO,WHICH LOCKED THE SEAR IN PLACE SO IT WOULD NOT GO OFF IF DROPPED. He went to Colt with the new improved 1910,but there C.E.O. said no we not not want to pay you . So he went to F.N. to make them.
 
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varminter said:
Nothing stupid about researching what the majority out there want rather than what you perceive as what they might like because you happened to like it.

As so many people rightfully point out on this forum a "Grip Safety" does not belong on a gun intended for "EZ" of use particularly when it is a small calibre and is a evey day carry gun which should be simple to use.

Why complicate matters when you are trying to compete with the likes of the fantastic new SIG P365?(I don't like SIG but it is undoubtedly the best gun since the M&P Shield was made).
Don't take my word for\it but let us talk again in 1year from now:)

Given the timing of this launch Smith &Wesson could have seriously capitalised on the launch of this gun had it been a worthy contender and opponent to SIG's P365.

I am now officially and truly ashamed to utter the words "M&P SHIELD" knowing that this horrible 380 hybrid shares the same Shield family title as my iconic M&P Shield 9mm. :mad:
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Just curious. You said that a grip safety shouldn't be on a firearm that is EZ to use. Just how does it make it more difficult? I have one on my XD9 SC and it couldn't be easier.
 
Alright can we place bets on how long this Pistola will be on the market.??

Will sales be enough to keep it alive?

Doesn't matter to me one way or another. I am saving my money for a Mossy 464 SPX 22lr!:D
 
Rule3 said:
Alright can we place bets on how long this Pistola will be on the market.??

Will sales be enough to keep it alive?

Doesn't matter to me one way or another. I am saving my money for a Mossy 464 SPX 22lr!:D
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I'm sure most serious shooters are going to see this thing as an abomination (which I do). Is there enough of a market otherwise for it - there will be some sales, will it be enough to keep it going for very long, I tend to think not however we aren't the target group so I don't know how long it will hold on for.
 
DD357 said:
I'm sure most serious shooters are going to see this thing as an abomination (which I do). Is there enough of a market otherwise for it - there will be some sales, will it be enough to keep it going for very long, I tend to think not however we aren't the target group so I don't know how long it will hold on for.
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For every gun enthusiast, how many people are there who just buy a gun to have for self defense?

We are the ones shouting out our praise or condemnation of guns on gun boards, so we seem (to ourselves) to be the dominant train of thought. But gun enthusiasts are not the target market for the new S&W. Those casual gun owners will nearly never be heard on the internet, but they will still buy guns.

If you don't believe there are huge numbers of non-enthusiast gun buyers, ask yourself how some companies continue to thrive by selling guns that enthusiasts uniformly ridicule.
 
gc70 said:
For every gun enthusiast, how many people are there who just buy a gun to have for self defense?

We are the ones shouting out our praise or condemnation of guns on gun boards, so we seem (to ourselves) to be the dominant train of thought. But gun enthusiasts are not the target market for the new S&W. Those casual gun owners will nearly never be heard on the internet, but they will still buy guns.

If you don't believe there are huge numbers of non-enthusiast gun buyers, ask yourself how some companies continue to thrive by selling guns that enthusiasts uniformly ridicule.
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Smith & Wesson's New M&P 380 Shield EZ | RECOIL

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My .04

1 Grip safety may well stand up good in a courtroom

2 If product research proves well , a new demographics of gun owners will join us

3 If said unit runs good and owners feel confident with its operation, we might just see more of them at the practice range.

4 I aint no sissy and I often carry a .380
 
Okay, educate me. I like guns, but I don't know if I'd be considered a "gun guy." I have a few rifles and about 10 handguns (4 carry guns and the rest range toys). Why the hate for the grip safety? My 1911 has it and it seems so innocuous. I don't even think about it. For a hammer-fired gun that is fully cocked (I believe) with no firing pin block it doesn't seem bad. Is it a real mechanical issue or is it macho "Safeties are for sissies" posturing?
 
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GaryS said:
Watch for prices to soar the day that S&W announces it is being discontinued! :D
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You need to buy several -now- to be sure you have them before they are discontinued.
 
Not going to bad mouth this new S&W, but with plenty of small 9mm firearms to chose from ( like my CM9 Kahr for one) why buy a 380 that is a more snappy firing pistol and uses ammo that is around $5 a box more?
 
Bamabred said:
Okay, educate me. I like guns, but I don't know if I'd be considered a "gun guy." I have a few rifles and about 10 handguns (4 carry guns and the rest range toys). Why the hate for the grip safety? My 1911 has it and it seems so innocuous. I don't even think about it. For a hammer-fired gun that is fully cocked (I believe) with no firing pin block it doesn't seem bad. Is it a real mechanical issue or is it macho "Safeties are for sissies" posturing?
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I never had a grip safety. Some people do hate safeties, but I'm not one of them. All my guns; rifles, shotties and pistols have some type of safety. Part of this probably goes back to my hunting days, and the fact that I've seen guys trip and stumble in the brush and BOOM their gun goes off. Others see it differently but the good thing is M&P makes options for the buyer.
 
GRU_ 7_ mech said:
Not going to bad mouth this new S&W, but with plenty of small 9mm firearms to chose from ( like my CM9 Kahr for one) why buy a 380 that is a more snappy firing pistol and uses ammo that is around $5 a box more?
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It has a special EZ rack slide and nifty EZ to load mags with a clever tab on the side which makes it ideal for the elderly or females or those who struggle with arthritis, etc.
 
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