My pawn shop find (nickel 4" 586) came back from the factory after I sent it off for a rear sight blade replacement and requested check-up. I am pleased with my customer service experience with Smith & Wesson, and, come to find out, they apparently replaced a few internal parts. Among the parts replaced were the mainspring, cylinder stop, hand, and the rebound slide (I believe). I am not an armorer, just did some investigation to figure out which parts these were. It doesn't appear to me that there is excessive wear to these parts that were apparently replaced, but again, I'm not an armorer. My question is, is this possibly something that the factory does as a service (replaces these parts) when an older (I believe 1989 model) revolver ends up at the performance center? Just a question; I am in no way dissatisfied.
Received my 586 back from the factory
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UncleEd
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Sometimes I think new parts are installed as
a matter of routine to be sure the gun is
up to specs before it leaves the factory.
a matter of routine to be sure the gun is
up to specs before it leaves the factory.
Could be....I'd be good with that. Thanks.
cadmike
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IMO, and in my experience, if they sent parts back with your gun, then they replaced those parts. They do not do this with every gun.
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Yes, every time I send in a revolver for anything, they check it over, and they almost always come back with some parts replaced because the experienced fitters see things wrong that I do not see, nor would I expect to, having not been an S&W revolver fitter for my entire career. I never have to ask. They just do it, and they have never charged me one cent for parts or labor to do so in the 45 or so years I have been sending revolvers back for whatever reason.
586
Beautiful gun you have there!
Beautiful gun you have there!
just plain joe
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As has been said, I believe that the techs look over the revolver and replace parts that are worn or my cause problems in the future.
I have sent a Model 58 and a Model 10-5 in for re-blue. In each case interior parts were replaced and the worn/old parts returned.
If you call S & W they may answer your question directly. I have found them personable and very helpful.
JPJ
I have sent a Model 58 and a Model 10-5 in for re-blue. In each case interior parts were replaced and the worn/old parts returned.
If you call S & W they may answer your question directly. I have found them personable and very helpful.
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Just curious...why are you wearing disposable gloves?
Whitwabit
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I don't know why he does .. but I do to keep the oil and lead residual off my hands .. as it makes my hands itch as I'm slightly allergic to the gun cleaning fluids ..
Keeping the lead off your hands is an added safety measure .. just like not shooting at a range that doesn't have adequate air flow ..
If you don't see wear on the replaced parts then it was probably just a preventive maintenance move. I just bought a Wolff spring kit to replace all the springs on the Model 19 I bought over 40 years ago. I've had no problems, I just consider it as "regular maintenance". The Model 19 hasn't been a regular duty gun since the late 80s, if it still was I'd be replacing the springs every 5-10 years.
Cylinder hands do wear out. My gunsmith explained that they are sacrificial, deliberately made of softer steel than the cylinder. This ensures that the easily replaced hand gets almost all of the wear instead of the harder-to-replace (and much more expensive) cylinder.
Cylinder hands do wear out. My gunsmith explained that they are sacrificial, deliberately made of softer steel than the cylinder. This ensures that the easily replaced hand gets almost all of the wear instead of the harder-to-replace (and much more expensive) cylinder.
REM1875
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Recall
In 1987, seven years after the release of the Model 586, there were reports of cylinder binding with some types of standard .357 Magnum ammunition for L-frame revolvers manufactured before August 1987. S&W put out a product warning and authorized a no-charge upgrade to make modifications to all 586, 586-1, 686, 686-1, and 686CS-1 revolvers.
Even though yours is a few year later this may have been a factor
In 1987, seven years after the release of the Model 586, there were reports of cylinder binding with some types of standard .357 Magnum ammunition for L-frame revolvers manufactured before August 1987. S&W put out a product warning and authorized a no-charge upgrade to make modifications to all 586, 586-1, 686, 686-1, and 686CS-1 revolvers.
Even though yours is a few year later this may have been a factor
LJBrennan007
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686 recall?
Hmmm, I may have missed this one. I bought the first 686 no dash that made it to my LGS back in the 80's I suppose, whenever it was that the 586/686 came out. Have shot the snot out of it and killed lots of deer, woodchucks, and other stuff with it and have not had any issues. I put a 2x Leupold on it and it remains my go-to gun when I want to test a new 357 mag handload for accuracy. I'll poke around sme to see if there is more information on this or perhaps one of y'all can chime in.
Hmmm, I may have missed this one. I bought the first 686 no dash that made it to my LGS back in the 80's I suppose, whenever it was that the 586/686 came out. Have shot the snot out of it and killed lots of deer, woodchucks, and other stuff with it and have not had any issues. I put a 2x Leupold on it and it remains my go-to gun when I want to test a new 357 mag handload for accuracy. I'll poke around sme to see if there is more information on this or perhaps one of y'all can chime in.
Some of the guns needed the repair and some did not. The problem was with hot loads using light bullets. When the factory did the repair they stamped the crane / yoke with an M. You will often see the guns listed for sale stating has or does not have M stamp. It had something to do with the firing pin bushing. The high pressure magnums would ends up pushing the case back and it would bind up. I am not s gunsmith, but I returned a 586 no dash that was having binding issues. I could get it open, but it was tough. I have heard of some guns binding to the point they could not be opened.
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august1410
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Mine is at S&W as we speak for the recall work, I experienced the binding twice. Both times, the gun opened, but it took a little effort. They received it last Friday and today I was told by customer service that their turnaround time is five weeks. It's gonna be a long five weeks.
August1410, I sent one back and they told me the same thing. I got it back in 3. It was odd though. I never got a call or anything that it was shipped. I just got the signature required delivery notice on the door and that I could call to coordinate a pu from the local PO if I was not going to be home during delivery hours. It would have been nice to get a heads up that it was on the way. The wife was able to be around the next day, so I didn't have to go get it.
All in all it was pretty smooth.
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All in all it was pretty smooth.
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