Ear Muffs

To be honest, I don't think you're going to be able to eliminate the need for a double-plug. Aside from indoor range noise level, it's difficult to get an actual seal around your ear with traditional earmuffs. Eyepro alone makes it hard.

I would also caution folks as to decibel reduction ratings. To put it simply, not all noise is created equal. What you care about is noise reduction in the frequency of gunfire, and what the NRR sticker on the box means. You could have a pair of 36db NRR earmuffs, but that might mean "36db NRR at 4kHz", which won't protect you from most gunfire noise.

A good article:
MSA Sordin Supreme performance: the misleading "NRR=18dB" rating | Trevor On The Trigger
 
Thank you all for the information and help. Sounds like I am better off to keep using the plugs and the standard muffs. Since I already have these you all just saved me some money. Thanks again for the help.
 
I have electronic muffs but use them only for hunting. On the range, I stick with plugs and good muffs with 30NR or greater.
I don't think you'll be happy with e muffs on an indoor range.
 
I bet I shot for 50 years or more without any hearing protection.

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Hmm, so the recommendation is earplugs AND headset? This explains why I see people wear both at the range.

The earplugs feel uncomfortable to ME.


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NOT to insult anyone's intelligence or experience as a shooter, but it is very important to READ the directions on the package of ear plugs on exactly how to insert them because it does make a HUGE difference on how they perform! For years I was not inserting them correctly and they were less comfortable and less effective. Amazing how something so simple can really affect their performance.
 
The key factors are exposure, duration, and environment.

If you're shooting by yourself, you can get away with less protection because you're not exposing yourself to as much noise as if you were shooting with a buddy. For instance, shooting a .44 Magnum isn't that punishing to the ears, but watching someone shoot a .44 from 10-15 feet away can really suck. Ditto if you shooting indoors as opposed to out, under a sound-insulated roof or a bare tin one, or if you're exposed to things like rifle fire (particularly SBRs, comp'd rifles, or muzzle brakes), comp'd pistols, and big-bore Magnums.

Duration matters, too. Spending all day at a match does a lot more damage than an hour or so of recreational shooting.

And then there's environment. The ideal is to shoot out in the open. The worst is in a concrete indoor range, or a shelter that lacks sound-deadening material. To be clear, any amount of enclosure, regardless of the amount of insulation, magnifies noise.

Me, I get away with just a pair of Impact Sports. But the range isn't busy, it's handguns-only, and it's neither completely enclosed nor made of concrete blocks.
 
I use ear plugs for Shotgun shooting..........

I add a headset when at the range with other shooters for the louder noise.
The plugs are a safety if I don't get my headset on in time, since
I remove them when there is a break in the action.

When shooting alone, I use either one but mostly the headset.
Just get ear plus that are over size. One time I had a heck of a time
getting a small one out of my ear, that I pushed in too far. :eek:
 
Any ear muffs that don't cause a headache? I feel many are too tight. Can you get the noise blockage without a headache?
 
I bet I shot for 50 years or more without any hearing protection.

Never shot that many years without hearing protection, but did a lot of years. Also worked on large printing presses 32 years, and was always too "cool/fool" to wear the provided protection. Those plus many years of ear splitting loud music have now left me with a nice high pitched ringing in my ears 24/7/365.

You get use to it after a while.
 
Any ear muffs that don't cause a headache? I feel many are too tight. Can you get the noise blockage without a headache?

The Peltor Ultimate 10 (29db reduction rating) are VERY comfortable and will not give you a headache. They are about $25 - $27 bucks and are the best ones I've had so far. They have the deep ear cups and plenty pf head room as opposed to some that don't give you enough head band for comfort or ear cups that are too small. There is also plenty of room for plugs should you decide to use them at the same time.

BTW I think these model muffs have been superseded by the Peltor 3M version that look the same except they are black and red and the db rating has gone up to 30. Still about the same price.

3m Peltor Optime model 105. Just do a search and they will come up on Amazon, Midway, etc.
 
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My first ear protection came from the US Army, a set of soft rubber ear plugs carried in a screw-top plastic tube with chain allowing carry on the shoulder epaulet of the field jacket, or through a buttonhole of the uniform shirt. Used those when training with the M14 rifle, M16 rifle, .45 pistol, M60 machinegun, M79 grenade launcher, M2 Browning .50 machinegun, and several other small arms. I won't say they were the best solution, but they probably saved some of my hearing capacity.

As a cop I was provided with ear muffs for range training with handgun and shotgun. Probably not the best, but again that probably saved some of my hearing capacity.

In real world use of firearms I have experienced firefights in Vietnam with no hearing protection, and a few exposures to gunfire (outdoors and indoors) as a cop with nothing to protect my hearing. I don't recommend going without hearing protection anytime a person experiences gunfire, particularly at close range, and especially while in enclosed areas.

I have also seen various products offered in gun shops, in magazine ads, and on-line that purport to be state-of-the-art hearing protection, often with medical endorsements, and usually with relatively high retail prices. Somehow I managed to get by with my old Army-issue earplugs and a modestly-priced set of earmuff protectors for many years.

After retiring from law enforcement I went into business in construction and roof contracting. That is when I started seeing industrial hearing protection products as described in my earlier post on this subject, and I could not help noticing that those modestly-priced products were either closely comparable, or functionally identical, to those offered for shooting sports use.

Frankly, I don't see how an hour or two of range time really compares to the 8-hour shifts many people put in on industrial production lines or heavy construction jobs that expose workers to constant high pressure and high level noise. I will restate my recommendation that shooters might best be served by shopping with industrial supply sources rather than specialty sports shops.

Along the same lines, I see folks at the range using some pretty fancy eye protection gear, frequently with brand-name logos prominently displayed. I have noticed advertisements for shooters' eye protection products at much higher prices than will be found at industrial supply houses that regularly provide very high quality glasses for workers in various jobs requiring such gear, and at much lower prices.

We have all heard that we get what we pay for, and that is frequently true. Sometimes what we pay for is little more than fancy advertising or a maker's logo applied to an otherwise common product.
 
We can shop for top name brands of hearing protection devices in gun stores and sporting goods catalogs/websites, and we can pay premium prices.

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I discovered this years ago. I use a very inexpensive unit (less than $3 per in quantity) intended for manufacturing environments, which I buy by the dozen and share with family and friends at the range. Huge variety available, and lots of sources.

Are you saying plugs or muffs? Would you be willing to share a link? I'm clueless here.
 
hey, guys. this thread got me thinking.
i've lost part of my right ear already.
i do wear plugs, but i see walmart has g&f earmuffs for $12.99.
supossed to be 34db.
am i cheaping out too much?
i already spend most of my cash on ammo, so i gotta save where i can.
 
Are you saying plugs or muffs? Would you be willing to share a link? I'm clueless here.

Do a little research.
Start with Grainger or Uline.
3M, Peltor, Leightning are among the many brands offered.
Over the head, behind the neck, foldable, attachable to a hard hat, what else do you need?
Muffs, a 200 pk. of plugs and $7 safety glasses should serve most needs.
 
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