Is there anyone you think should be carrying a gun? You've just insulted most of the membership here . . .
Carrying at the range?
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Is there anyone you think should be carrying a gun? You've just insulted most of the membership here . . .
Any rifle range around here is run by Missouri Department of Conservation. Some staffed, some not. I've been using them for 30 plus years. No issues. Unfortunately, it seems the general tenor of the folks that are posting on this thread is that everyone but them shouldn't be carrying a gun. Unfortunate . . .
If the thought is misguided and overcautious, that's the sad part . . .
nachogrande
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"OVERCAUTIOUS"??? ABOUT GUN SAFETY???
My outdoor club (several thousand members & open to the public) is pretty darn cautious, yet the soda machine got shot, 1 round went parallel to the firing line through numerous bay dividers, many holes in the roof & shooting benches. NO SUCH THING AS TOO SAFE, in a crowded range with all types of shooters & personalities, IMO. I go to relax, not worry about being the next soda machine. Bring on the rules & plenty of RO's. Don't care for a structured setting, there are all kinds of ranges, mild to wild. TEHO.
My outdoor club (several thousand members & open to the public) is pretty darn cautious, yet the soda machine got shot, 1 round went parallel to the firing line through numerous bay dividers, many holes in the roof & shooting benches. NO SUCH THING AS TOO SAFE, in a crowded range with all types of shooters & personalities, IMO. I go to relax, not worry about being the next soda machine. Bring on the rules & plenty of RO's. Don't care for a structured setting, there are all kinds of ranges, mild to wild. TEHO.
I thought we were talking about the potential for theft. My bad. If I thought somebody was going to steal my rifle, or load it and shoot me while I was down range, I wouldn't go there.
nachogrande
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YES IT IS, BUT
Many years ago it was a common practice, so much so that belt scabbards for rifle bolts were not uncommon. In the movie cool hand Luke the BOSSMAN with the mirrored sunglasses can be seen using one. Pulling a bolt is not a bad habit, even if you leave it on the bench. NO WAY a bolt rifle can fire without a bolt.
Many years ago it was a common practice, so much so that belt scabbards for rifle bolts were not uncommon. In the movie cool hand Luke the BOSSMAN with the mirrored sunglasses can be seen using one. Pulling a bolt is not a bad habit, even if you leave it on the bench. NO WAY a bolt rifle can fire without a bolt.
nachogrande
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DULY NOTED.
Most of those "AD's" thankfully were during ceasefires when all but the offender were behind the "safe" line & away from the bench. The soda machine was well behind the safe line but took a direct hit. It must have jumped into the line of fire at the last moment.
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That was pretty ignorant statement. Maybe you have spent that 40 years observing the wrong people.
Im sorry, where did I say or even imply that everyone but me shouldn't be carrying a gun? Please be SPECIFIC.
I specifically said "general . . . "
DevilDog72
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Concealed or open carry is ok, drawing from holster is frowned upon.
MichiganScott
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My club has no rules concerning carry of any kind within the fences. Many of the members carry concealed simply because it is on our hip when we go to the club. We have a 25 yard side range where you can draw and fire to your heart's content. The main ranges are reserved for rifles or benching a handgun.
After reading these comments about theft at the various ranges I can't help but wonder why you go there. Over the years various members at my club have left spotting scopes, guns, and other odds and ends and the articles always make it back to the rightful owner. The members that leave their kit suffer no end of ribbing for their lack of memory, probably because the average active member has got to be over 60.
After reading these comments about theft at the various ranges I can't help but wonder why you go there. Over the years various members at my club have left spotting scopes, guns, and other odds and ends and the articles always make it back to the rightful owner. The members that leave their kit suffer no end of ribbing for their lack of memory, probably because the average active member has got to be over 60.
Over the >40 yrs that I've been shooting, I've belonged to 4 different gun clubs (private, non-profit orgs). None had any rules about CCW or OC on their ranges. However I used to OC at my first club and it was very much frowned upon, I was questioned about it (why do you do that?) as it was a totally FUDD club (bullseye and skeet/trap shooters, less than a handful actually cared about the 2nd Amendment). I finally quit that club after 24 yrs (14 of which I was a BOD member as their legislative chairman). In the years since I quit they invoked some "interesting" rules. Can't load more than 6 rds at any time on the outdoor range or 5 rds on the indoor range plus if you shoot your carry gun you are prohibited from reloading and reholstering the gun on the property!
The 2 clubs my Wife and I currently belong to both allow CCW or OC (lots of members OC), no issues. No shooting from the holster however at any time at one club. The other club allows shooting from the holster, shooting on the move, bring your own steel, shoot at any distance, etc. . . . just maintain safety.
As an NRA Instructor who teaches the Personal Protection classes, it's a shame that most clubs in MA won't allow my students to practice the drills they learned in those classes. We do offer a discounted 1st year membership for students who take classes at the club that allows holster work.
I do not shoot at public ranges. I've been in a few and witnessed actions that don't make me feel safe being there.
The 2 clubs my Wife and I currently belong to both allow CCW or OC (lots of members OC), no issues. No shooting from the holster however at any time at one club. The other club allows shooting from the holster, shooting on the move, bring your own steel, shoot at any distance, etc. . . . just maintain safety.
As an NRA Instructor who teaches the Personal Protection classes, it's a shame that most clubs in MA won't allow my students to practice the drills they learned in those classes. We do offer a discounted 1st year membership for students who take classes at the club that allows holster work.
I do not shoot at public ranges. I've been in a few and witnessed actions that don't make me feel safe being there.
My favorite indoor range has the same rule. That said, I am often alone on the range and regularly violate the "no drawing from holster" rule. It is selectively enforced.
Whatever gun I carry to the range usually does not get shot during the same trip. Sometimes, I pull it to fire off and replace old carry ammo.
buzzkillbob
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My local range operates as a cold range at all times. The cold range limitation does not apply to firearms carried under legal authority such as Texas LTC or active law enforcement. They do allow practicing from concealment as long as you're on the firing line. After you're done, you need to reconfigure it for concealed carry or keep an empty chamber while putting the firearm away.
buzzkillbob
US Veteran
I'm often a contrarian...there are plenty of people here that should be carrying a gun before I do. I'm not implying that I shouldn't be carrying one, just that there are many more qualified.
Whitwabit
US Veteran
Boy I hear ya'!
I take the better half with me on days I want to shoot rifles on the 200yd range. My local rifle range has 20 stations. Even so, my senses get on edge when many/most stations are occupied and we get the all-clear to go change/check our targets at 200yd. Just impossible to watch on your own, and that is why I'll take a partner every time.
I do the same .. My wife accompanies me and sets off to the side or in the Jeep if its too hot .. She always has my back and I always have at least one loaded at all times ..
The out door range I use is not near anything so someone could be robbed of their guns pretty easy if not very careful ..
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I always carry at the range. I wouldn't shoot at a range that disallowed it.
It's very odd that a range would be fine with someone shooting a firearm, but not have one hidden in a holster.
It's very odd that a range would be fine with someone shooting a firearm, but not have one hidden in a holster.
fredj338
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Its not an insult its reality. Notice i said average, not every.
We have to shoot for qualification here for our ccw. It s a static B27-29 sil, 60rds at 3, 5 & 7, just hit the target, You must score 70%. Most barely do that in a class, some fail. If most of the forum members are that bad, well they need to practice, a lot. If you feel insulted, sorry muss that isnt on me but you. It wpuld suck to be avg in a gunfight.
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fredj338
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My shooting exp is quite a bit higher than most. I have been to about 1/2 dozen ccw quals, leo quals, countless competitions & many training classes. Just one trip to a ccw class verifies what I said. Ignorance is avoiding fact. Those are the facts as I see them.
Many states have zero quals or training req for ccw. Kalif has a minimal std that imo, pretty pathetic. Yes I believe every person that carries a gun in public should meet a minimu training/competancy std. I know that flies in the face of 2A idelogues, but that is my opinion. Its free, take it or leave it.
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