Hunting guide killed by bear: client throws him a handgun
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Really a strange story, the hunter said he was on horseback and the bear pulled him off and knocked the gun out of his hand. Doesn't really make sense.
The last elk my hunting partner killed went like that. I stood by with an 1100 with a mag tube extension with 9 rounds of slugs while he field dressed the animal. I had called another fellow to come up as close as he could to help pack it into the truck. We quartered it and got to heck out of the area. It took about an hour We also alerted every one we saw on the way out to be on the lookout. Another friend told me that 3 hours later there was a grizzly on the site. The bears are very aggressive at times. BTW we were in the timber where he dropped the elk and it is very easy to not be able to see 50 ft in some places. I walked up on 3 moose and was within 20 ft of the cow and her calf..I backed the heck out of there when the hair went up on her back. We live in an area(very near YNP) where the Game and Fish and park service "transplants" problem bears. This means they have no fear of people for the most part as they have had some serious interaction with humans. In the last 10 days of hunting elk over a couple years I have seen at least 5 grizzly bears...and one black bear....and a few extremely large wolves. The only one that seemed to fear humans was the black bear. Elk hunting in our area is NOT a solitary sport. When Wyo said ringing a dinner bell ,,,he knows of what he talks.
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I question the reported details of this whole incident, bear spray or no bear spray, and I seriously question the story told by the hunter.
Visitation.....
Visitation every other weekend.
"I thought bears were solitary. When did they start running in packs?"
At some time or other papa has got to see mama or there won't be any cubs.
Visitation every other weekend.
Elk hunting.....
Elk hunting is killing the bear's dinner for him, then not letting him have it. That's probably the reason that bear spray works sometimes and other it doesn't. Motivation on part of the bear. Cubs and food are pretty good motivators.
Elk hunting is killing the bear's dinner for him, then not letting him have it. That's probably the reason that bear spray works sometimes and other it doesn't. Motivation on part of the bear. Cubs and food are pretty good motivators.
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I'm just glad I wasn't there, and on the receiving end of the bear attack. A Glock doesn't seem the best tool. Belt fed indeed...........
Seems like you hear more and more of these apex predators losing their fear of man and these tragedies occur, bear, mountain lions, wolves, whatever. Or maybe it's like everything else today, news travels farther and faster.
Those living amongst them just have to keep their guard up.
Those living amongst them just have to keep their guard up.
Can someone explain why they always have to kill the bear after one kills a person? It sounds like the bear had claimed the elk when no one else was around and felt threatened that the men were going to steal it's food, maybe the bear and it's cub had gone a long time without a meal and were starving? I don't see any reason to kill the animal, it may never do that again and worse case they could put it in a zoo. There are only about 1500 Grizzly's left in the lower 48 states.
BigBill
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That's why I bumped up to a 338 win mag.
My son of yogie(blackbears cub) went in my breezeway and shook the box were my white faced hornets are nesting in. He ran off pretty quick.
My son of yogie(blackbears cub) went in my breezeway and shook the box were my white faced hornets are nesting in. He ran off pretty quick.
darmtn1917
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Perhaps you could enlighten me as to how many humans would qualify the bear for extermination?
"maybe the bear and it's cub had gone a long time without a meal and were starving?"
So humans become an acceptable snack?
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No enlightenment should be necessary. It's obvious that one human death by bear dooms the bear if it's caught or seen again.
Humans have to show the bear who's the boss, even though the bear has absolutely no concept of right or wrong. No one has ever explained to a grizzly bear that humans are not food. The bear is doing what it's been genetically programmed to do for thousands of years. Unlike humans, the bear makes no excuses for what it is and what it does.
Unfortunately, bears (and other predators) usually end up paying the price for simply being what they are. Never mind that human ignorance or inattentiveness to their surroundings are the catalysts that cause incidents like this one.
It should be obvious by now that grizzly bears think so.
This appears to be about the most detailed account of what happened as we are likely to get. This was truly a nightmare situation, and it looks like the guide performed admirably and did all he could to protect his client. It also appears that Game & Fish personnel made exactly the right decision in putting these two bears down. Killer griz never slowed charge | Environmental | jhnewsandguide.com
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Thanks for the link to the story, Wyo. Very interesting read and it sounds to me like it was the correct decision to take out the 2 bears after the attack. A real sad story all around. 
I wonder if the Guide's gun had been a revolver instead of a Glock would the client have been able to use it. Also, if the Guide didn't keep the gun with one in the chamber ready to go, maybe that's something else to look at.
After reading the last few bear attack stories, I'm convinced that I'd be better prepared with a strong revolver carried right up front in one of those cross chest holsters like this one:
Guides Choice™ Leather Chest Holster, the ULTIMATE outdoor gun holster | Diamond D Custom Leather | Handmade Leather Holsters
After reading the last few bear attack stories, I'm convinced that I'd be better prepared with a strong revolver carried right up front in one of those cross chest holsters like this one:
Guides Choice™ Leather Chest Holster, the ULTIMATE outdoor gun holster | Diamond D Custom Leather | Handmade Leather Holsters
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A guy told me once he was moose hunting and came close to a really big grizzly and was feeling a bit under gunned holding his .300 Win Mag. I would always want a large bore handgun on my hip in grizzly country and when cleaning game, have a 45/70 Marlin guide gun handy also.
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A reminder that even today, sometimes the bear wins. Prayers for the guide's family.
When I lived in Alaska I once inadvertently got too close to a pretty good sized interior griz(maybe 375 lbs) . It can be easy to do. I was carrying a bolt gun in 338 mag. Yep I felt under-gunned and I also had my ever present M-57. The big problem is that a bolt action at close range is a one shot deal...if the bear charges...maybe 2 with a lever gun. A serious PO'd bear is not an easy critter to stop. You have to hope you knock it down when you shoot. As far as the glock...I know a couple of fellows who carry one for grizzly backup...but only in 10MM, I took one on trade at the gun show on Saturday(M-20) and sold it very quickly an hour later to a fellow that works as a horse and camp wrangler for a local guide. It was the first Glock I have ever had as I am not a fan of the guns. I only took the gun on trade as it was as new(7 rounds fired). The older fellow was missing a couple of fingers on his off hand and couldn't rack the slide. I got the gun with the 43 rounds of factory ammo and a box of Buffalo Bore 220 gr. Prayers go out for this fellows family
LVSteve
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Exactly. What part of "Apex Predator" do so many not understand?
All sounds great but things aren't always what they seem. I know what they are and you may but many people think they are just big ol teddy bears or the wolves are just nice good size really tame dogs...oh and the buffalo. Shaggy cows. Around Yellowstone some of the animals actually act that way...sometimes. When I was in Alaska most bears would usually take off when they saw a human(interior). Brown bears around the coast are somewhat different. They seem to show a lot of restraint towards humans....most of the time. I tried to not be near any of them. I think the local bears here would be a bit different if they were hunted....just my opinion...The local grizzlies seriously have little fear of humans. The non native wolves are the same. I do live in an area with wolves but they have become more circumspect as this is not a trophy wolf area. they can be shot here. The ones I was seeing regularly seem to have "left the area". According to the gummit trapper. Personally I would leave them alone anyway as I don't need to shoot a grizzly or a wolf. Coyotes are fair game especially in the winter
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