keith44spl
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Ya better hang on to her !
If some get their way.......
We all may be down to the flintlocks.
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Single-Action REVOLVER Defense?
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Ya better hang on to her !
If some get their way.......
We all may be down to the flintlocks.
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Last time I saw you on your unicorn, you were carrying your matchlock! You've upgraded!
double-dipper
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Many years ago when my firearms collection was very small I used a Ruger single-six "convertible" for home defense. I kept the .22WMR cylinder in it with Federal 50 grain JHP's. I never felt "under gunned" as I knew I could hit what ever I was shooting at. If I was 19 years old again and that is all I had I would use it. Have you ever seen what that round will do to a coyote?
Sounds good. I'm thinking about switching to a muzzle-loading musket for home defense. If it was good enough for the American Revolution patriots, then it should be good enough for me. I did have some initial concerns about capacity, but one shot is really enough if you know how to shoot. Plus I'm counting on them to just run off anyway. Maneuverability and retention also crossed my mind, but I think that's all merely a training issue.
Erich
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Well, with all due respect to Pisgah (and I see his point), I have enjoyed my read-through of this thread. It's got me thinking. Friend Smoke cuts to the chase in a way that makes me think about my carry of single action revolvers . . . or, rather, why I pretty much never do it. And so many of you have given voice to why I kind of like the idea.
The thing is I just love the ones I have - I am really accurate with them, and they have a heft and a feel that makes me happy to hold them. I want to carry them . . . but when the time comes I usually have a little "what if" thought that runs through my mind and the next thing you know I go out the door with a small, deep-mag nine.
The heck of it is that I'm sort of working a trade that might get me another one, less practical than all of the ones I have now.
But it's so neat!
The thing is I just love the ones I have - I am really accurate with them, and they have a heft and a feel that makes me happy to hold them. I want to carry them . . . but when the time comes I usually have a little "what if" thought that runs through my mind and the next thing you know I go out the door with a small, deep-mag nine.
The heck of it is that I'm sort of working a trade that might get me another one, less practical than all of the ones I have now.
But it's so neat!
riverrat38
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I am not sure that I understand the logic of coming on a thread you know you won't like, just so you can tell everyone there that the thread they are enjoying in the dumbest one of all!
There are enough topics and threads on the S&W Forum that anyone interested in firearms and related items should be able to find one they would actually enjoy participating in. Or hang out in the Lounge with a cold one.
Best,
Rick
There are enough topics and threads on the S&W Forum that anyone interested in firearms and related items should be able to find one they would actually enjoy participating in. Or hang out in the Lounge with a cold one.
Best,
Rick
Some of the stupidest and most cocky replies I've had the displeasure of reading on this forum.
Hopefully I can say that without getting an infraction from the mods. I apologize in advance and beg for forgiveness if the above is too brutal a statement to make here.
Hopefully I can say that without getting an infraction from the mods. I apologize in advance and beg for forgiveness if the above is too brutal a statement to make here.
MLA6021
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With today's market of really good double action revolvers of many calibers and configurations, some specifically designed for carrying, why would one want to carry a single action revolver, with all its limitations? Not to mention the liabilities of that cocking the hammer bit. You cock it back and takes so little to make it go bang.
Certainly budget isn't an issue. A lot of the good modern revolvers are reasonably priced and also you can find some really good deals on sound, used ones.
I suppose if carrying a single action let's you inner High Noon personality come out, go ahead. Otherwise, not practical.
Certainly budget isn't an issue. A lot of the good modern revolvers are reasonably priced and also you can find some really good deals on sound, used ones.
I suppose if carrying a single action let's you inner High Noon personality come out, go ahead. Otherwise, not practical.
Shooting Padre
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I really love my single action Uberti in .357 but I don't believe my skill level is good enough for EDC. BUT! For home defense it is gun enough, at least until I can fight my way to something bigger. The fact remains, a single action, even with only five holes full is better than no gun at all.
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As for home defense it's a mix of pistols & revolvers, calibers 9mm PARA, .44 SPL and .45 auto. Shop gun is a .44 Mag Alaskan.
I don't carry unless I'm on a rare cross country road jaunt, and always during mushroom season.
Mushroom hunting personal defense gun favorites are a varied selection of single action sixes.
As a survivor tool, you can't beat a Blackhawk Convertible in .357/9mm or .45 cal.
My latest mushroom sidekick is a .38 SPL Uberti OWD.
I don't carry unless I'm on a rare cross country road jaunt, and always during mushroom season.
Mushroom hunting personal defense gun favorites are a varied selection of single action sixes.
As a survivor tool, you can't beat a Blackhawk Convertible in .357/9mm or .45 cal.
My latest mushroom sidekick is a .38 SPL Uberti OWD.
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No civilian should draw a gun unless they are justified to use deadly force. So the cocking and light short pull is of no concern. Other reasons to carry is to annoy those who feel they must dictate how others carry.
THEmodelof1989
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Joking around is all in good fun, and everyone should carry what they like the most... blah, blah, blah...
The bottom line is, cocking a hammer and pulling a trigger will ALWAYS be slower than just pulling the trigger. It's up to you what kind of tactical disadvantage you want to put yourself in; none of my business.
*sips tea*
Now... back to my unicorn.
The bottom line is, cocking a hammer and pulling a trigger will ALWAYS be slower than just pulling the trigger. It's up to you what kind of tactical disadvantage you want to put yourself in; none of my business.
*sips tea*
Now... back to my unicorn.
MLA6021
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I guess you never been around somebody who cracks one off by "accident". It's kinda scary, and a wee bit annoying as you make sure you don't have any unwanted holes in your body.
What always amused me when I did observe one to occur, it was usually done by someone that considered themselves a "gun guy" or a "good shot". lol
The End...
Perhaps I misread but it appears that Jay specifically solicited opinions in his opening post.
Don't ask for opinions if you don't want them.
Better than nothing =/= optimal
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You're extremely fortunate to have only fired pistols with DA triggers which are light/smooth enough to believe this to be a correct statement.
I got both and autos. I spent some time where bullets were flying about 50yrs ago. My take on this : Mothers don't let your babies grow up to be Cowboys.
THEmodelof1989
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I've fired my fair share of excellent SA and DA triggers; I've also fired my fair share of poor SA and DA triggers. All things equal, skipping a whole step is STILL faster every time.
Okay, now that we have opened the proverbial can of worms here, let me add my two cents worth. And, as I've said before, it's probably not even worth that, but here it goes anyway.
Like many here on the forum, I shoot double-action revolvers, single-action revolvers, and semi-automatic pistols. I've shot SASS for many years and I can honestly say that I can shoot six shots in a single-action revolver chambered in .45 Colt as quickly and as accurately as some shooting in either double-action or with a semi-automatic pistol.
As the great St. Louis pitcher Jerome "Dizzy" Dean once said, "It ain't braggin' if ya done it." And I'm not bragging, but I've got to admit, I've done it. It's really not hard if you practice a lot, as many have said previously when mentioning SASS shooters.
So, have I carried a single-action revolver for self-defense? You bet. Have I carried double-action or semi-auto? Yep, I've carried those, too.
Have I felt inadequately prepared by carrying a single-action? Not one bit.
Oh sure, we're always going to find those who demean the use of a single-action revolver for self-defense or for home protection. Heck, that's how gun writers (who often erroneously believe that their opinions are the final word) make their money by publishing things that "stir the pot," so to speak. Everything from single-action vs. double-action to "Which is the best deer cartridge?"...or as we've seen on this forum ad nauseum, "Which is the best bear cartridge?".
Bottom line...if it works for you, USE IT!!!
Let's face facts, folks, we're always going to have those among us who feel that if you don't believe the same way they do, then you're obviously wrong. They really don't care about your right to your own opinion. We see it in the world, we see it on the forum. No biggie. That's just the way life is.
How do we explain it? Like this...it's a biological wonderment that there are more horse's patoots in the world than there are horses. Plain and simple.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when talking about how quickly these single-actions revolvers can potentially be fired, I'm assuming it's two-handed?
Unless I'm missing something, they are relatively very slow to fire off multiple rounds with one hand. Prohibitively so in a defensive context based on what I've seen.
Plus there's the issue of having to break your grip to thumb the hammer as well as having a weapon cocked to single action if you want your weapon to be ready to fire as you should in any type of impending conflict.
That would seem to make them a very poor choice for self-defense when one hand is often all you have. And from a threat management perspective, they would appear to be a bad option as well, but like I said, maybe I'm missing something.
Unless I'm missing something, they are relatively very slow to fire off multiple rounds with one hand. Prohibitively so in a defensive context based on what I've seen.
Plus there's the issue of having to break your grip to thumb the hammer as well as having a weapon cocked to single action if you want your weapon to be ready to fire as you should in any type of impending conflict.
That would seem to make them a very poor choice for self-defense when one hand is often all you have. And from a threat management perspective, they would appear to be a bad option as well, but like I said, maybe I'm missing something.
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