1936 Registered Magnum ordered by Joseph Lorch

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I am not sure if this gun has been posted previously or not but I just acquired it so I thought I would join up and post it. I am a Colt person at heart, I do not own any other S&Ws, but I have handled a RM or two in the past and have wanted to acquire one for a while. So when the opportunity presented itself through one of your members here who is also on another forum I jumped on it.


The gun was ordered in December of 1935 by Joseph A. Lorch (Colt sales rep in D.C. though I have also read claims he also worked for S.& W. but do not know the validity of such.) and delivered January of 1936.

According to the verification letter from Roy Jinks it was ordered with a 6.5" barrel, McGivern front sight, square notch rear sight, 3 pair of Magna Grips, and blue finish. It was sighted at 25 yards with .357 magnum ammo.

The S&W historical foundation sent copies of the original order paper work and letters from Mr. Lorch and D.B. Wesson regarding the order. Which Mr. Lorch apparently specified that the barrel and chambers be of the exact dimensions for the .357 as "this customer is very picky". Also in November the gun was sent back as the customer in question had noticed a creep in the action had developed. Order was received in the factory on Christmas Eve of '35. It was assigned Reg # 739.

The gun has a King Mirror sight on it today instead of the McGivern, but it appears to be a factory install and I can find no * markings indicating that the gun was ever refinished. There is however a date stamped on the grips of 7-42 which would surpisingly indicate work done in July of '42 but I didn't think civilian work was done during the war years? So I guess it is possible the king sight was added then...

It only has the one set of Magna Stocks still with it. I also have an original box, though not THE original one that came with it. It is a beautiful pistol and I enjoyed thoroughly taking it to the range yesterday with my Python, .38 Shooting Master, and .45 Evolution Armory 1911. The grip is a bit different than my colts, but I didn't find it as much of a hindrance as I expected at 20 yards(especially considering how little I have shot pistols recently).
 

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Welcome to the forum! Nice entrance too. That's neat it has a Colt connection through Lorch. Did the documents tell who was the actual customer? S&W did service work during the war, I have seen several. Is the front sight insert brass or faded plastic? If it is brass, it may have been a McGivern bead that was filed down. It looks like tool marks on the front of it.
 
Welcome to the forum! Nice entrance too. That's neat it has a Colt connection through Lorch. Did the documents tell who was the actual customer? S&W did service work during the war, I have seen several. Is the front sight insert brass or faded plastic? If it is brass, it may have been a McGivern bead that was filed down. It looks like tool marks on the front of it.

It is brass.

Hmm I had always been told the "Frozen Firearms" policy prevented commercial work during WW2?
 
"There is however a date stamped on the grips of 7-42 which would surpisingly indicate work done in July of '42 but I didn't think civilian work was done during the war years?"

I have a 1926 .44 Special that went back to the factory in February 1942, where it was renickeled and received new grips. I asked Roy Jinks about that and he told be that S&W did not abandon their civilian customers, war or no war.
 
I would imagine the paperwork at the time of the order would have treated with this, but given the McGivern front sight is a blade (only)----a Patridge with a hemispherical gold bead----the touted benefit being it would reflect light from any angle, I would imagine it would have been entirely possible to call for a King reflector base with a McGivern blade-----and child's play to provide it.

Ralph Tremaine
 
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OP you just made my day. I doubt I will ever own a RM especially in that condition but the fact that you took it to the range and used it for what it was intended is so cool. I've always said that if I could afford a gun like that then I could afford to shoot it and absorb any loss that came with shooting it. I am jealous beyond words. Keep shooting it and keep us posted. You are now one of my heroes.
 
Very Nice!
I would certainly enjoy a range day with your RM and your Shooting Master!

Personally, I'd enjoy the experience even more with some "period correct" 357 handloads in the RM.
Attached is a sample by Phil Sharpe, prepared around 1937.
Note his interesting comments! No doubt, a "picky customer" back then would be familiar with this data!

Jim
 

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OP you just made my day. I doubt I will ever own a RM especially in that condition but the fact that you took it to the range and used it for what it was intended is so cool. I've always said that if I could afford a gun like that then I could afford to shoot it and absorb any loss that came with shooting it. I am jealous beyond words. Keep shooting it and keep us posted. You are now one of my heroes.

Hell yes! I agree 100%!
 
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