Four Inch Barreled Pre-27's - Photo and Info Thread

[bwade]

I have S164145 shipped to H.H. Harris February 25, 1957 to replace the duplicated serial numbered 3.5" shipped three weeks before to H.H. Harris in error.

 

[M57]

Nice

Nice group ! I really like these pistols.. nice .50 cal spotter/tracer round. Gonna have to see ifg I have one of those inmy box.

Took it out last week and shot it. I used Black Hills 158 grain
CNL Cowboy loads at 7 yards with a light wind. I was impressed.
I think I will keep it.

 

[rubiranch]

S168244 Shipped April 22, 1957 to H.H. Harris Company.

 

[RKmesa]

With Kenny's post above here's an Updated Summary:

Nine post war 4" pre-27's posted in this thread, of which 4 shipped to H.H. Harris on April 22, 1957:

SN S103689 Shipped February, 1954
SN S164145 Shipped February 25, 1957, H.H. Harris
SN S164155 Shipped April 5, 1957
SN S164375 Shipped November 9, 1956 to H.H. Harris part of 8 unit shipment
SN S164753 Shipped April 22, 1957 to H.H. Harris, 5 units in this shipment
SN S164755 Shipped February 25, 1957, H.H. Harris order for 24
SN S164758 Shipped April 22, 1957, H. H. Harris, believed to be one of 12
SN S164775 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris order for 8
SN S168244 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris Company

Hopefully a few more will be posted.

 

[rubiranch]

It looks like all 5 shipped on April 22nd are present and accounted for.

Did every 4" pre-27 go to H.H. Harris??



I'm guessing someone added the red insert to the ramp front sight after they purchased it.
Mine also has a target hammer and trigger. Non of what were mentioned in "the letter".

So for me..... Its kind of like someone ordering a base 1969 Mach I and adding the rear window slats, spoilers and Magnum 500 wheels.
Some very nice factory add-on accessories.
I might even look for a nice set of diamond Target stocks for it too and make it the only 4" pre-27 3-T.

I'm sure this nauseates the purists.

 

[LPD256]

It looks like all 5 shipped on April 22nd are present and accounted for.

Did every 4" pre-27 go to H.H. Harris??



I'm guessing someone added the red insert to the ramp front sight after they purchased it.
Mine also has a target hammer and trigger. Non of what were mentioned in "the letter".



So for me..... Its kind of like someone ordering a base 1969 Mach I and adding the rear window slats, spoilers and Magnum 500 wheels.
Some very nice factory add-on accessories.
I might even look for a nice set of diamond Target stocks for it too and make it the only 4" pre-27 3-T.

I'm sure this nauseates the purists.

If you buy a green Mach 1 and paint it red, that's a violation. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you don't nickel or hard chrome your 27, you haven't done anything that can't be reversed to what some would call "pure". It's a beautiful gun. I'm very happy for you. And a little jealous....

 

[rubiranch]

If you buy a green Mach 1 and paint it red, that's a violation. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you don't nickel or hard chrome your 27, you haven't done anything that can't be reversed to what some would call "pure". It's a beautiful gun. I'm very happy for you. And a little jealous....

I totally agree with you and thank you.

The red insert is the only thing that's not reversible and I'm OK with that.

A very good friend made it possible for me to even get this gun and I'm very grateful for all of his help. Without his help I wouldn't have it today.

 

[LPD256]

I totally agree with you and thank you.

The red insert is the only thing that's not reversible and I'm OK with that.

A very good friend made it possible for me to even get this gun and I'm very grateful for all of his help. Without his help I wouldn't have it today.

I visited with your friend and his Mom in Tulsa. Very nice people. I asked him to give you my regards when he saw you. But he may know me by my name, not LPD256.

 

[rubiranch]

I visited with your friend and his Mom in Tulsa. Very nice people. I asked him to give you my regards when he saw you. But he may know me by my name, not LPD256.

I'll be seeing him Monday. I'm "unloading" another gun.

He is a good guy for sure.

 

[rubiranch]

If you buy a green Mach 1 and paint it red, that's a violation. As far as I'm concerned, as long as you don't nickel or hard chrome your 27, you haven't done anything that can't be reversed to what some would call "pure". It's a beautiful gun. I'm very happy for you. And a little jealous....

Mine has been altered since it left the factory.

Its had a red insert added to the ramp front sight, a target hammer and a target trigger so I'm going to find me a nice set of Diamond Targets to finish it off.

Maybe a W/O rear sight too.

The Diamond Magnas are not numbered, just era correct.

Then I'll have the only 3-T 4" pre-27.

 

[Flygas]

One to add to the list

I just bought a 4 inch Pre-Model 27 this weekend. Serial number is S164615 and it was shipped November 9, 1956 to H.H. Harris Co. in Chicago.

 

[rubiranch]

Maybe a W/O rear sight too.

Looks like the previous owner beat me to it.

 

[RKmesa]

With Flygas' post above here's an Updated Summary:

Ten post war 4" pre-27's posted in this thread, of which 4 shipped to H.H. Harris on April 22, 1957:

SN S103689 Shipped February, 1954
SN S164615 Shipped November 9, 1956, H.H. Harris
SN S164375 Shipped November 9, 1956, H.H. Harris part of 8 unit shipment
SN S164145 Shipped February 25, 1957, H.H. Harris
SN S164755 Shipped February 25, 1957, H.H. Harris order for 24
SN S164155 Shipped April 5, 1957
SN S164753 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris, 5 units in this shipment
SN S164758 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris, believed to be one of 12
SN S164775 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris order for 8
SN S168244 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris Company

Hopefully a few more will be posted.

 

[rubiranch]

With Flygas' post above here's an Updated Summary:

Hopefully a few more will be posted.

Thanks Richard.

 

[younggun22]

Looks like we can add S167844 to the list.

 

[RKmesa]

With Younggun22's post above here's an Updated Summary:

Eleven post war 4" pre-27's posted in this thread, of which 4 shipped to H.H. Harris on April 22, 1957:

SN S103689 Shipped February, 1954
SN S164615 Shipped November 9, 1956, H.H. Harris
SN S164375 Shipped November 9, 1956, H.H. Harris part of 8 unit shipment
SN S164145 Shipped February 25, 1957, H.H. Harris
SN S164755 Shipped February 25, 1957, H.H. Harris order for 24
SN S164155 Shipped April 5, 1957, H.H. Harris, 19 units in this shipment
SN S164753 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris, 5 units in this shipment
SN S164758 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris, believed to be one of 12
SN S164775 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris order for 8
SN S167844 Shipped ___________, ______________
SN S168244 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris

Looking forward to a date and shipping location for S167844.
And I continue to be hopeful that a few more will be posted.

 

[younggun22]

With Younggun22's post above here's an Updated Summary:



Eleven post war 4" pre-27's posted in this thread, of which 4 shipped to H.H. Harris on April 22, 1957:



SN S103689 Shipped February, 1954

SN S164615 Shipped November 9, 1956, H.H. Harris

SN S164375 Shipped November 9, 1956, H.H. Harris part of 8 unit shipment

SN S164145 Shipped February 25, 1957, H.H. Harris

SN S164755 Shipped February 25, 1957, H.H. Harris order for 24

SN S164155 Shipped April 5, 1957

SN S164753 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris, 5 units in this shipment

SN S164758 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris, believed to be one of 12

SN S164775 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris order for 8

SN S167844 Shipped ___________, ______________

SN S168244 Shipped April 22, 1957, H.H. Harris



Looking forward to a date and shipping location for S167844.

And I continue to be hopeful that a few more will be posted.

Looks like I'll have to send out for a letter but I have a sneaking suspicion about what it's going to say...

 

[magmag]

Whats the ballpark price range for a excellent condition example with all matching serial numbers and original box? What $ amount does it command these days?

 

[delcrossv]

Whats the ballpark price range for a excellent condition example with all matching serial numbers and original box? What $ amount does it command these days?

Looking at closed auctions, over $3k.

 

[RKmesa]

Looking at closed auctions, over $3k.

I don't recall seeing any 4" pre-27s in recent auctions, do you mind sharing with me where you saw these so that I can update this thread with that information. Thanks