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Been trying to work up a Bianchi Cup revolver load meeting the 120K power factor and 1-1/2" groups at 50 yards. So far & hands down the factory Remington 158 Gr RN (target) ammo has the best grouping.

Believe it or not the Magtech 158 gr RN bullet is listed as an "economy bullet" but it's accuracy equals the Remington.

That's the good news, the bad news is that Magtech informed me that they are no longer supplying bullets for reloading - they have shifted production to "loaded ammo" because of consumer demands.

So I'm seeking for a source for 158 RN bullets that resemble the Remington on left and Magtech on right.
 

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They may shoot good but they are butt ugly.:) National Bullet Co made some accurate round nose pretty boolits if you could find a design like their's. I have never shot a good group at 50 yards with a bevel base lead bullet.
 
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From my limited testing the cup base bullet (as pictured) has superior accuracy vs the bevel base. The "long" RN is also more accurate over the flat nose or stubby RN bullets (in my guns anyway).
 
I am very sorry to hear that MagTec is not making bullets for the loaders any more, for now............

The 158 gr RN in my J frame at ten yards with Trail Boss would put five bullets onto a paper target with all five touching one another, when shot off a sand bag.

A SWC would average .99" to 1.86" from various makers.

Darn the luck.......
Here I am with only one bag of 100 left.
 
Here is a quote from Magtech when asked if they would be making that lead bullet in the future:

........."While I never say never, it’s highly unlikely we’ll offer components again due to the demand for loaded ammunition.".........
 
What gun are you using? Do you have to shoot a lead 158 grain boolit? Both boolits look pressure formed. The one on the left looks like a wad cuter with a round nose. It looks like they were designed for under 850 fps. Are you using 38 brass?
 
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What gun are you using? Do you have to shoot a lead 158 grain boolit? Both boolits look pressure formed. The one on the left looks like a wad cuter with a round nose. It looks like they were designed for under 850 fps. Are you using 38 brass?
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The one on the left was pulled from a factory Remington 158 RN (target) round. The one on the right is a Megtech 158 RN bullet. Have all types of brass Rem, Fed, Starline, nickel, brass etc. Like the Federal brass because it is straight wall (no crimp grooves). Using 38 brass and targeting 800-820 fps. Like I mentioned factory 158 GR RN Target shoots 1-1/2" at 50 yards. That "cup base" seems to make the difference.

I'm using S&W K frames with 6" Clark barrels....Clark said they are 1-10.
 
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My shooting buddy has a 1 in 10'' Clark 10'' barrel for sale for an L frame. Mine is a 1 in 14 twist and shoots good at 50 yards with a 200 grain round nose and a 125 Hornady XTP. I haven't benched a lot at 50 to know how some bullets group. Here is a target I shot at 50 with a model 19-3 with a 1 in 14'' twist These 200 grain bullet have a dish in the rear also. I never thought about the dish but it seems to work. This company went out of business. I was aiming at the bottom of the orange with both bullets and the 200 shot higher. I would like to know what you come up with.
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Looks like the groups I'm getting with the Magtech bullets...I wrote to Berry's asking for a variety sample pack if possible. Right now I'm sold on the dish base bullets.
 
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Have had good luck with the Remington , Magtech & Zero 158 RN swaged bullets in 38 special loaded for DR competition . The Remington 158 RN & their 148 HBWC are hard to beat for 38 special target work . They're also getting hard to find as I believe they only make limited runs once a year . When I find them I buy them by the 2,000 case .
 
Thanks guys..BTW I have tons of swaged 148 BNWC, 148 HBWC and 158 RN (flat base) bullets. Shoot great under 770 fps.

Like I mentioned...Magtech is no longer selling bullets...just loaded ammo. They informed me of this last week.
 
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Armscor makes a 158 jacketed bullet but with an exposed lead dish base that's very accurate and cheap. I used to load some in my 357 Maximum Contender that were the most accurate at 100 yds.

You must be benchresting to shoot a group like that at 50 yds.
 

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That bullet is similar to these (picture)...my buddy gave me a pack but he can't remember who made them! They shoot well at 50 yards.

I cut one open..that copper is pretty thick? They have a small cup on the bottom. My concern is the K frame forcing cone having a steady diet of them.

BTW: All my testing is double action on a rest at 50 yds.
 

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Try the bayou 160 RN. Hitek coated bullets. I use them for IDPA PF 126 loads
 
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8shot said:
That bullet is similar to these (picture)...my buddy gave me a pack but he can't remember who made them! They shoot well at 50 yards.

I cut one open..that copper is pretty thick? They have a small cup on the bottom. My concern is the K frame forcing cone having a steady diet of them.

BTW: All my testing is double action on a rest at 50 yds.
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Are you saying you can shoot a 2 1/2'' group at 50 yards double action with a K frame?:confused:
 
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Are you saying you can shoot a 2 1/2'' group at 50 yards double action with a K frame?:confused:
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YES...It's not a big deal!!!...do it regularly. I never shoot single action..all double action, have 6" Clark barrels and UltraDot scopes. My revolvers don't have single action capabilities.


Don't really want to say this but I shot (2) national "open" records at the Bianchi Cup, shot a perfect 1920 at one NRA Eastern Regional Action Pistol Championship years ago.

BTW: This was about 25 years ago...but I can still shoot 2-1/2 groups..which is not a big deal.
 
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rwsmith said:
I don't know if they have what you need but Missouri bullets are tops in my book.
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Looking at their web page don't see what I'm looking for. I really feel that the "cup base" in combination with a "longer round nose" profile 158 gr round works best in my revolver(s). This bullet profile is exactly what Remington uses in the factory loaded 158 Gr RN "TARGET" ammo which is very accurate and was regularly used during Police Combat Distinguished Matches...must be something there.

BTW: I know the 148 Gr HBWC was supreme for 1500 matches...but the groups open up with the 148 as I hit the 850 fps threshold, plus skirt separation becomes a concern.
 
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