Executive Action Tomorrow
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Fishinfool
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80% receivers and pistol brace status can be changed by the BATFE with the stroke of a pen. Red Flag laws are a little trickier, but a strong federal template, at the very least, will be used as an example by many states.
Donating to your favorite gun rights organization is our best defense. And don't forget to write your elected representatives, at all levels, voicing your displeasure with all things gun control. Politicians, of both parties, and at all levels want one thing - power. That power comes from staying in office, and most will throw their moral convictions under the buss if it means possibly being voted out of office...
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Donating to your favorite gun rights organization is our best defense. And don't forget to write your elected representatives, at all levels, voicing your displeasure with all things gun control. Politicians, of both parties, and at all levels want one thing - power. That power comes from staying in office, and most will throw their moral convictions under the buss if it means possibly being voted out of office...
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He used what I have been predicting was going to be the new tool of choice...public health emergency. Its going to be impossible to put that genie back in the bottle, there has been entirely to little push back, and to much blind obedience to rules and proclamations to keep us safe...this is just a predictable application of that mindset.
BigBill
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Our state reps here are anti gun already. They are listening to the survivors and there wishes.
First every shooting must be investigated on what when wrong. I don’t think mental issues should be used as an excuse. If so everyone of us who feels the pressures of life should go on a rampage? Facing the pressures in life head on made me stronger to survive .
1. Background checks.
National data base for background checks no loop holes.
First every shooting must be investigated on what when wrong. I don’t think mental issues should be used as an excuse. If so everyone of us who feels the pressures of life should go on a rampage? Facing the pressures in life head on made me stronger to survive .
1. Background checks.
National data base for background checks no loop holes.
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He’s nominating a Gifford group “senior policy advisor” to be head of the “AFT” as he called it over and over. Maybe he was thinking American Federation of Teachers.
Of course said nominee claims to be a gun owner and 2A supporter.
TheHobbyist
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Donated to NRA and SAF. Bump.
I just joined GOA and SAF as well as donating to NRA-ILA yesterday. Figured better to cover all the bases.
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Politicians, of both parties, and at all levels want one thing - power. That power comes from staying in office, and most will throw their moral convictions under the buss if it means possibly being voted out of office...
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However, herin lies a problem with that statement...
This comes from a Executive Action, no politician has his finger on it, so they can come back and say they didn't have anything to do with it.."I didn't vote for it"...therefore for my hands are clean.......
To me, one of the issues was a non issue...Ghost guns...I have yet to read or even hear of a rumor of a "Ghost" gun being used in any crime.
The "Red Flag" issue to me becomes a 4th amendment issue..
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WuzzFuzz
Larry[/QUOTE]
However, herin lies a problem with that statement...
This comes from a Executive Action, no politician has his finger on it, so they can come back and say they didn't have anything to do with it.."I didn't vote for it"...therefore for my hands are clean.......
To me, one of the issues was a non issue...Ghost guns...I have yet to read or even hear of a rumor of a "Ghost" gun being used in any crime.
The "Red Flag" issue to me becomes a 4th amendment issue..
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Further, it makes me nervous, that Mr. David Chipman has been appointed to the ATF to come up with some rules...Rules such as has been made in many years before, making it illegal to own a sawed off shot gun, or possess a gun that would automatically shoot multiple times with only one pull of the trigger....
Did I mention RULES...Where will a violation against a rule get you for say, a farmer mowing the grass on a water way on their own property...What does the EPA have to say about that rule, and what is the penalty???
Which agency has a rule against not filing your taxes, What is the penalty?
You see, these "agencies" can make the rules, and the penalty for violating the rule.
Getting back to what I mentioned earlier..Ghost guns...Well maybe a new gun won't get to be made with that new fangled printer things, but I guarantee you, I could still make a zip gun from a car antenna a nail and a rubber band and a little bid of wood.
But of course the whole issue is for the children, is it not?...It always is...."FOR THE CHILDREN".
WuzzFuzz
Did I mention RULES...Where will a violation against a rule get you for say, a farmer mowing the grass on a water way on their own property...What does the EPA have to say about that rule, and what is the penalty???
Which agency has a rule against not filing your taxes, What is the penalty?
You see, these "agencies" can make the rules, and the penalty for violating the rule.
Getting back to what I mentioned earlier..Ghost guns...Well maybe a new gun won't get to be made with that new fangled printer things, but I guarantee you, I could still make a zip gun from a car antenna a nail and a rubber band and a little bid of wood.
But of course the whole issue is for the children, is it not?...It always is...."FOR THE CHILDREN".
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Again, to me...the frog is in the water, the fire was lit some time ago, and the fire has been turned up another notch, yet the frog still just swims around like nothing is wrong.
I sort of hope that I'll be around for the day when the frog wises up and jumps out before the end comes around..and all other other frogs in the same pot (read all of the amendments) go the same way as the second frog.
WuzzFuzz
I sort of hope that I'll be around for the day when the frog wises up and jumps out before the end comes around..and all other other frogs in the same pot (read all of the amendments) go the same way as the second frog.
WuzzFuzz
Just went SAF Life Member. IMO, this is merely the opening gambit.
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So... Has anything actually even happened yet? That's my problem with these threads, they get posted so far in advance that all you get is a bunch of speculation one way or the other regarding what may happen, everyone gets all worked up in the process, then once the actual news breaks, everyone has already worn themselves out with the discussion save for diehards who live for this stuff, so no meaningful or otherwise productive discussions take place.
Also, I'm sorry, but I don't believe in throwing money at a problem in attempt to stop it, (especially not on impulse at the last minute) nor do I feel that if this turns out to be as serious as some folks assert that it will be that sitting back and hoping that whatever Pro Second Amendment organization you may subscribe to will make it all better is the appropriate response/contingency plan.
Also, I'm sorry, but I don't believe in throwing money at a problem in attempt to stop it, (especially not on impulse at the last minute) nor do I feel that if this turns out to be as serious as some folks assert that it will be that sitting back and hoping that whatever Pro Second Amendment organization you may subscribe to will make it all better is the appropriate response/contingency plan.
Richard Simmons
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He’s nominating a Gifford group “senior policy advisor” to be head of the “AFT” as he called it over and over. Maybe he was thinking American Federation of Teachers.
Of course said nominee claims to be a gun owner and 2A supporter.
It appears that the last director of the ATF left in April 2015. Since then there have been two “acting directors “. Anyone know why a new director hasn’t been nominated and confirmed in the last 6 years? What ever it is might it not also keep Biden’s nominee from being confirmed?
SchemaEnigma
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Remember, the USSR used mental institutions to imprison political enemies on the basis that opposing Communist rule was evidence of insanity.
We are all insane, according to the gun control advocates.
OP
Huh? Since I posted the thread, I'll respond. I posted yesterday about an announcement being made today. The announcement was made today. DOJ has been instructed to develop rules in 30 and 60 days. If this is to far in advance, then what do you suggest? As for your other comment, if you don't agree that paying lawyers is the only response to the new rules that the DOJ has been tasked with developing, then what is your "appropriate response/contingency plan."
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Yes, we are the public health emergency.
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