Long Rant-Windows 10 is so broken...

LVSteve

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WARNING!!! What follows is a major computer geek fest.

You would think after the disasters of DOS 4 and Windows 98 (original, not the patched SE) that Microsoft would know not, under any circumstances give one of their operating systems an even ID number. So, what did they replace the largely stable Windows 7 with? Windows freakin' 10. Just never learn, some people. Let's start with the issues I have at work.

I write a lot of heavy technical reports. They require illustrations, photos and graphic plots. So, my employer has given me Microsoft Word, Visio (something they recently bought) and EXCEL. So, you would think that moving stuff into Word to assemble my reports would be easy, after all, the software all came from the same place. Gentle reader, you could not be more wrong.

First off, Microsoft don't want you to move the pictures and graphs from one app to another, they want you to embed them so all you have to do is click on them to do more editing. That is an absolute, non-negotiable no-no within our company and just about every other tech company I know. The customers does not get anything he/she can edit except the actual Word text. Everything else comes as is. I say again, this is not negotiable. Certain customers only get locked PDFs of our Word docs. This stops somebody's well meaning intern from changing the whole meaning of the report. You may guess how I know this.

OK, so Microsoft has a means to transfer stuff between its apps called the "Enhanced Metafile" format, EMF for short. This is a vector graphics format that, in theory, takes the picture/graph plot you have made in Viso or EXCEL and reproduces it exactly in Word. Short version, it doesn't always work. If I do a line/box drawing in Visio, it seems OK, but if I have included a picture and used Visio to add point outs, all hell breaks loose. The picture resolution goes away, lines move, call out fonts suddenly get funky spacings. Ugly does not cover it.

Oh, before any of the those with experience ask, I have the "Do not compress graphics" boxes checked in all my apps. It hasn't helped.

The only recourse is to save my completed Visio diagram as a PNG file, but even then Visio adds extra space around the right and lower edges of the graphic. Oh, and if I want to reduce the color depth to save on file size, I have learned never to use the facility in Visio, it is utterly hopeless. I use a freeware app called Irfanview to do that and trim off the Visio extra.

When I use EMF to move stuff from EXCEL, the effects are a little more subtle. Any bold text in the plot becomes less bold and distorted. Even simple fonts like Arial just do not look right. Sooo, I tried copying and inserting into Word as a PNG file. The bold looks great, Arial numbers look OK, but the Arial in the legend suffers random letter shifts. I have a work around for this that is too long winded to go into here.

So, the short version is that Microsoft's own EMF transfer format does not work. As you might guess, it now takes 3-4 times as long to add illustrations and graphs to my reports using all my workarounds.

Today came the last straw at home tonight. My wife's brand new and expensive HP laptop repeatedly loses the pointer associated with the touchpad, like a mouse pointer. Even restarting the machine does not guarantee the pointer's return. Web research suggests that this may well be caused by Windows and HP software creating an impasse, especially if the machine enters sleep mode. Naturally, the laptop is running Win 10. My wife will be taking it back to Best Buy tomorrow for a permanent solution, because right now it's an expensive paperweight. If that solution involves returning her money and buying a Dell or Lenovo, so be it.
 
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We had a similar problem.....

I worked in the research department of a company where a lot of technical papers were produced. After doing some studies I figured that we DIDN'T want a format that was editable or somebody could go in and screw up somebody else's work. There was always some conflict and the technology was changing rapidly.
 
It seems that most of your trouble is with Visio, not windows. Instead of a meta file, try taking screen shots and paste as a picture. Just a suggestion, I’m not trying to be mr. Know it all tech support. Good luck.
 
It may depend on which version of Word/Visio you’re working with. I’ve had good luck exporting Visio drawings as JPEG’s and imbedding the JPEG’s in Word on Windows 10. Mouse click wise it’s a little cumbersome, but it seems to work.

Also, has your wife downloaded/installed the latest driver packs from HP?

Early on, I had some issues with Win 10, but been pretty stable for quite some time.

If you really despise Windows, you could always go with Linux as your base OS and use Oracle Virtual Box (free) to host a Win 10 virtual machine for Windows only apps. The Virtual Box drivers are pretty simple and stable.
 
LVSteve, I'm sorry for the misery that Windows 10 is putting you through. I can't help with your technical issues, but I know that hundreds of your fellow Forum members will benefit from your post. After reading it, they will all come to the same conclusion: "Thank God I'm retired!"
You read my mind. Also, remember being glad I never needed to assemble reports. That was someone else's gig.
I do remember enough about tech to read that nothing in the problems description relates to the Windows 10 operating system, rather the writers use of the software added to it. Sounds more like a gripe with MS Office.

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If you want to go for a seriously geeky solution, ditch word and Visio completely, install Rstudio, and write your docs in R markdown. Or even more geeky, do it in LaTex. You will never want to touch Word again.
 
I feel your pain when it comes to computer problems, but if I'm not mistaken everything you complained about here is not an OS (Operating System - Windows 10, for the uninitiated) problem but rather an app/program issue (Word, Excel, Visio, etc.). If data compatibility is a problem between programs then there are lots of alternatives to choose from, but Windows 10 by itself doesn't appear to be at fault here.

This is like blaming your house because the colors you chose to paint it don't complement each other.

And the issues with your wife's laptop sound more like a driver compatibility or hardware issue having to do with the maker of the touchpad and not the OS there either. If forced to guess I would lean towards a hardware issue. I do empathize that suspecting this as a cause doesn't fix the problem, however. Good luck!
 
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I do remember enough about tech to read that nothing in the problems description relates to the Windows 10 operating system, rather the writers use of the software added to it. Sounds more like a gripe with MS Office.

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Not that clean with Windows.

One of the big complaints about Windows as an OS is it exposes a number of application services that apps like Office use to interact with each other. Makes it easier to write apps, but also ties the app to the Windows OS. It's interface based to make it more generic, but not perfect. That's why OS updates to Windows can break parts of some apps. One of those OS services is the ability to exchange/embed info between apps.

That tight coupling between OS and app makes it hard to say if the problem is an issue within Office or an issue between Office and Windows.
 
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For years, I used free word processors like Libre Office and OpenOffice. They worked ok. Then I purchased an engineering spreadsheet to do some number crunching I need for work, and it didn't function right with Libre or Open Office and I felt gypped. Then I finally broke down and gave Word a free trial and, lo and behold, the spreadsheet worked perfectly. So now I subscribe to the MS Office license and everything I need to do works flawlessly.
 
That tight coupling between OS and app makes it hard to say if the problem is an issue within Office or an issue between Office and Windows.
Good description of the possible issue here, but the big picture still seems to be an end user trying to make multiple add-on programs work seamlessly together, and in a way that's different from spec. That's been a problem for every computer platform.




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Adobe InDesign might be worth a look?

As a Mac user for 35 years, I'm always left scratching my head over all the grief I hear about winders.
 
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Got my new Windows 10 , early this year.........
saw it right off when,

I went to Libre Office to writer document........
and saw how my old data was printed out and presented to me.

The page looked like it was reduced down to 88% and a little hard to read with my old eyes.

In some of my pistol load data sheets, the columns were too small for the font size !!

Yes, a few problems but at least I have a brand new PC and can now send & receive e-mail !!
 
It may depend on which version of Word/Visio you’re working with. I’ve had good luck exporting Visio drawings as JPEG’s and imbedding the JPEG’s in Word on Windows 10. Mouse click wise it’s a little cumbersome, but it seems to work.

Also, has your wife downloaded/installed the latest driver packs from HP?

Early on, I had some issues with Win 10, but been pretty stable for quite some time.

If you really despise Windows, you could always go with Linux as your base OS and use Oracle Virtual Box (free) to host a Win 10 virtual machine for Windows only apps. The Virtual Box drivers are pretty simple and stable.
Another possible suggestion is to "print" your Visio diagrams & etc. as a .PDF and insert that into your Word document.
 
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