I prefer books and magazines over reading electronically. Said to see another thing we grew up with pass.
End Of An Era
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AJ
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Easy to mark places in the books for referring back to later, I would assume, in printed book.
Ivan the Butcher
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Many small pamphlets on reloading will never appear on the electronic screen. Things like reloading data on the box of bullets sold by Sharps. The tiny booklet on unusual reloading equipment made in Massachusetts.
Advertisements for used rifle actions published in the 1950 American Rifleman. A friend with less than perfect vision wouldn't have been able to read Townsend Wheelan's add for a pre-war Target Model 70 action! He paid Col. Wheelan $70.00 for the action found as a Japanese trophy in a hut in the Philippines. He sent it to Winchester requesting a Target rifle be built using his action and a "Piece of Walnut, with some figure in it", be used for the stock! That action/rifle/stock won the 1952 Wimbledon Cup.
That piece of history most likely would never happen in electronic media!
Ivan
Advertisements for used rifle actions published in the 1950 American Rifleman. A friend with less than perfect vision wouldn't have been able to read Townsend Wheelan's add for a pre-war Target Model 70 action! He paid Col. Wheelan $70.00 for the action found as a Japanese trophy in a hut in the Philippines. He sent it to Winchester requesting a Target rifle be built using his action and a "Piece of Walnut, with some figure in it", be used for the stock! That action/rifle/stock won the 1952 Wimbledon Cup.
That piece of history most likely would never happen in electronic media!
Ivan
Okay, I'll be the first to admit that I am not "up to speed" when it comes to modern technology. My kids once told Ms. Judy, "We've gotta get Dad into the 21st century." She replied, "I'd be happy if we could just get him into the 20th century."
That being said, when I got the postcard from Field and Stream saying that they are now going all digital, I immediately wrote back and said, "Sorry! I don't do digital. Please cancel my subscription and refund my money immediately."
Doubt if I'll see any money, and I seriously doubt my opinion will mean anything to them, but at least I got it off my chest and let them know how I feel.
That being said, when I got the postcard from Field and Stream saying that they are now going all digital, I immediately wrote back and said, "Sorry! I don't do digital. Please cancel my subscription and refund my money immediately."
Doubt if I'll see any money, and I seriously doubt my opinion will mean anything to them, but at least I got it off my chest and let them know how I feel.
Fishslayer
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That is to bad, but I was a long time subscriber and when they went to 6 times a year I let my subscriptions lapse.
Being a retired printer I have seen this coming for a while. It is the way of the digital age. Our generation is shrinking and the newer generations really would rather read on line.
I for one, miss the excitement of a new magazine and enjoyment of sitting with a cup of coffee and reading. I miss the smell of the paper and the ink.
I like my iPad, but it is not the same.
Glad I have my old books to reread sometimes.
Being a retired printer I have seen this coming for a while. It is the way of the digital age. Our generation is shrinking and the newer generations really would rather read on line.
I for one, miss the excitement of a new magazine and enjoyment of sitting with a cup of coffee and reading. I miss the smell of the paper and the ink.
I like my iPad, but it is not the same.
Glad I have my old books to reread sometimes.
AJ
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USS Capitaine?
outta_ammo
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I guess I'm an outlier here. As a recently retired boomer I remember waiting anxiously for the next issue of G&A to arrive in the 60's. But I spent most of my working life in and around technology and it seems as natural to me as turning a page. Constantly evolving tech was a given. And while I do miss the magazines I remember, I have little use for the current crop. It's always about new, new, new, and I don't care, care, care.
I love my gun books, and I don't mind the prices of the really good ones (they're priced like text books for advanced and obscure subjects—massive research, minuscule audience), but I also value carrying a massive reference library around in my pocket. And don't get me started about searchable text. Trying to find an obscure reference in a book? Good luck. Finding said obscure reference in an ebook, piece of cake.
Oh, and if you ever feel the need to get really depressed, get a copy of Gun Digest from your birth year and look at the prices. Ahh, what I should have been spending my money on instead of diapers and Gerber...
I love my gun books, and I don't mind the prices of the really good ones (they're priced like text books for advanced and obscure subjects—massive research, minuscule audience), but I also value carrying a massive reference library around in my pocket. And don't get me started about searchable text. Trying to find an obscure reference in a book? Good luck. Finding said obscure reference in an ebook, piece of cake.
Oh, and if you ever feel the need to get really depressed, get a copy of Gun Digest from your birth year and look at the prices. Ahh, what I should have been spending my money on instead of diapers and Gerber...
The printed word is great when your computer isn't working, or you are not subscribed to the internet or the "cloud" gets cleansed, or you want to add notes to the page.
Will the new Field & Stream allow you to get pdf of each version, or will you need to "login" to the cloud to read it as long as they see fit?
Someone else will have to deal with my paper collection, ain't giving it up.
Will the new Field & Stream allow you to get pdf of each version, or will you need to "login" to the cloud to read it as long as they see fit?
Someone else will have to deal with my paper collection, ain't giving it up.
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I recently read an article telling about the things that Boomers like that are rapidly disappearing because the Millennials and younger don't do those things.
It used to be that when you bought a product you got an owner's manual with it. Now they are seldom printed - you need to go online and download it. Manufacturer's save tons of money by not printing paper manuals any more.
I recently bought a new house phone. I wanted a wallhanger for the garage. The one I wanted had bad reviews. People said it was **** because it would fall off the wall. Suspecting that no billion dollar company would sell a wall phone that couldn't be hung on the wall, I downloaded the manual before I bought it. It was quite clear. To mount on the wall, a simple part in the package had to be added. I bought it and it is the best phone I ever owned. I guess all those bad reviewers didn't read the instructions.
The bottom line is that today nobody reads any more. The worst part is that there are tons of people that have no clue about proper spilling and grammare. If it ain't on farcebook it isn't important.
It used to be that when you bought a product you got an owner's manual with it. Now they are seldom printed - you need to go online and download it. Manufacturer's save tons of money by not printing paper manuals any more.
I recently bought a new house phone. I wanted a wallhanger for the garage. The one I wanted had bad reviews. People said it was **** because it would fall off the wall. Suspecting that no billion dollar company would sell a wall phone that couldn't be hung on the wall, I downloaded the manual before I bought it. It was quite clear. To mount on the wall, a simple part in the package had to be added. I bought it and it is the best phone I ever owned. I guess all those bad reviewers didn't read the instructions.
The bottom line is that today nobody reads any more. The worst part is that there are tons of people that have no clue about proper spilling and grammare. If it ain't on farcebook it isn't important.
I also grew up with those outdoor magazines in the 60's which drove me toward guns and persuading my dad to pick up where he left off when the kids came along. So, we shot, and hunted, and handloaded. I, too, gave it up when the kids came along, but then became re-immersed. Great times!
As a youngster, I also picked up on the outdoor writers' style. "The big muley, the biggest one I had ever seen, poked his head over the outcropping, not aware I was there. I slowly brought the Model 70 up and put the crosshairs on his chest. The range was about 200 yards..." Then comes the backstory on the hunt, the gun, the ammo, the pack trip in. Then return to the shot ... one only, always. I was hooked.
As a youngster, I also picked up on the outdoor writers' style. "The big muley, the biggest one I had ever seen, poked his head over the outcropping, not aware I was there. I slowly brought the Model 70 up and put the crosshairs on his chest. The range was about 200 yards..." Then comes the backstory on the hunt, the gun, the ammo, the pack trip in. Then return to the shot ... one only, always. I was hooked.
The beauty of electronic media is that I can carry an entire library on a tablet or smartphone that I can take anywhere. I can enlarge the print, zoom in on graphics, control the contrast between text and background, bookmark pages and share content with others online.
Also, by shelving less printed material at home I am thinning the silverfish population.
Also, by shelving less printed material at home I am thinning the silverfish population.
Ivan the Butcher
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When my smart phone was G3, data was on a less sophisticated network & it had greater range. I had to go to G4 and data has gone to something with less range. Without consulting me, they change systems and make my hardware obsolete! They are trying to make me obsolete too, I got news for them. I am, and my accumulated books will function no matter . what they say, do or think they allow!
A friend went to Kindel and got rid of his entire paper library. 15-20 years later he is building a new paper library. Why? He sees reports on the infrastructure, (you and I will never have the clearance to see these reports!)
It used to be said "If it is important, write it down!" The day is coming that it will be, "IF it is important to know, Write it down on PAPER!"
Ivan
A friend went to Kindel and got rid of his entire paper library. 15-20 years later he is building a new paper library. Why? He sees reports on the infrastructure, (you and I will never have the clearance to see these reports!)
It used to be said "If it is important, write it down!" The day is coming that it will be, "IF it is important to know, Write it down on PAPER!"
Ivan
You forgot Patrick McManus!
Add Corey Ford and his back 40 articles.
And if your battery goes dead you got nothing......Books and magazines don't require batteries.
BigBill
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Our lives are changing. I stopped buying outdoor life when they eliminated the mauri moon charts to fish by.
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I think as printers we knew this day would come. I can tell exactly the event that convinced me.
Years ago (mid 2000's) I got an email from Printing Impressions (a printing industry trade magazine) informing us that they were going to digital only.
The irony was so thick you could cut it with a chainsaw. I printed the email and walked into my boss's office and showed him. He went ballistic. He called them and screamed at them for half an hour.
I started planning my exit.
AJ
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That would have been a big clue for me too!
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I agree wholeheartedly. I do the same myself. I have files and files of printed material on my hard drive, plus it is backed up as well.
My printed paper collection consists of out-of-print items that were never available digitally.
But just remember, you and I are the minority because we can actually read!! The magazines that are being discontinued are because not enough of us read them any more, plus the entire advertising venue has changed.
