Simple fractions

Another vote for metric here. Do like analog clocks though. (And have an analog clock app on my iPhone.)

Having grown up in the UK in the days of Pounds, Shillings, Pence and Farthings, then inch / yard etc., when I came to the USA in 1968 the only part that was easier was the currency. To find that the US inch was smaller (if you do not believe me, there is a lovely story of a bridge from Canada to the US that started from opposite sides and was found to not "quite mate"). Traced to the very slight difference in the US versus Imperial inch but over a couple of miles it made a difference. Since I was trained as a chemist, the metric system's weights and measures were second nature, but I still cannot understand "Yanks" who claim that that system is too complicated when they have 2 sets of 10 didgets, the currency is based on units of 10. Then add to this that the liquid measures are smaller than the Imperial ones yet use the same nomenclature. Little wonder people are "confused" when they travel outside of the US (N or S; E or W). I shall not say anything about the Mars Lander fiasco a few years ago, nor the only country that still uses 212 F as the equivalent to 100 C!!! Dave_n
 
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I spent 30 years in the Architectural & Structural design world.. also helped the civil survey departments in the early years.. always tried to make everything a factor or fraction of 4 feet.. getting the poor rookie to grasp that concept is a challenge. because the "computer says" is usually the excuse for not thinking... and let's not get into what the little black diamond means on the tape measure... lol.. if you know, you know.
 
I have filed two complaints with the Kentucky Real Estate Commission about licensed Sales Agent who made erroneous claims of acreage.

Complaint #1 - Listed 8 acres as 7 acres
I examined the deed and discovered the error.

1) Tract 1 "contains 7.02 acres by survey of J. E. Stevenson and Associates June 20, 1986".

LESS AND EXCEPT a "tract contains 3.00 acres by survey of J. E. Stevenson, KLS 2236, dated July 19, 1988."

Tract 1 7.02 acres - 3.00 acres = 4.02 acres Tract 1

Tract 2 " containing 4.06 acres according to a survey

4.02 acres + 4.06 acres = 8.08 acres

Listing Agent listed this 8.08 acre property as containing 7 acres .

Complaint 2 - Listed .815 acre as 1 acre.
Owner had said 1 acre / Property Valuation Administration claimed apx .95 acre but admitted not survey accurate. Their calculations are from satellite images.

Using the dimensions in the deed description for calculations resulted in an acreage of .816.

I knew of these errors prior to my Purchase Offers.
My complaints were not for monetary damages.
Just HOPE that the "agents' get an Unfriendly Reminder about the need to use basic math skills.

Trust, But Verify.

I apologize for the length of this post.
I wanted to show where errors were made.

I would do a line by line comparison of the legal descriptions in all of the deeds in the chain of title. Just one error in one line of a legal description will throw the whole thing off.
 
I once saw a copy of a deed that had the distances measured between two points as how long it took to walk and smoke a certain number of cigarettes. I often wish I'd have kept a copy of that.:D

Did it specify regular- or king-size cigarettes?
 
Hmmmm...Did the Egyptians use a tape measure in inches and feet, or did they use metric measurements to build all that they did?

As far as their spelling goes, I still don't know if what they wrote is spelled correctly or not!!!!!

I wonder too, to tell time by the sun, is it still O' Dark Thirty, if it's a cloudy day???????

If an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, then what would it be in metric measurement?

How did mankind progress to where it is today?????

Now understanding what is being said in old English, well that's for another days' discussion.

Back to the original post,,,I've always seemed to get by, by using..a smidgen more, or a tad bit more, or "over yonder",


WuzzFuzz
 
9 out of 7 people have problems with fraction.

In my line of work, we had to cut steel casing and then weld on other pieces of different lengths. We needed accurate measurements. Trying to write down each additional piece of pipe and subtracting others, using the imperial system made this a nightmare. I ordered and used what is known as an engineer tape. This was the standard 12" foot imperial systems but instead of inches, each foot was dived by 10 equal marks instead of 12. Made adding and subtracting easy and accurate.

I am old and set in my way, but good grief lets got to the metric system.
 
If all else fails, you can use a caliper to measure it accurately. These came out of my toolbox.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

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Walking Distance for Time Period determines Purchase

I once saw a copy of a deed that had the distances measured between two points as how long it took to walk and smoke a certain number of cigarettes. I often wish I'd have kept a copy of that.:D

I remember hearing (in grade school) about the Pennsylvania having a walking time period to determine length of a purchase. GOOGLE found it.

the Lenape promised to sell a tract beginning at the junction of the upper Delaware River and the tributary Lehigh River (near modern Easton, Pennsylvania) and extending as far west as a man could walk in a day and a half, later to become known as the "Walking Purchase" or the Walking Treaty of 1737

Walking Purchase - Wikipedia
 
Not necessarily true. My "EX" D-in-L teaches and says the biggest issue with kids learning is the total apathy of the parents. Cannot use red corrections on tests/quizzes as it damages the poor little tykes' self-esteem. Few if any will show for parent/teacher conferences. Give a kid an F and get hounded all day by an irate parent. All of the policies come down from the longtime, seasoned educators at the top, not the fresh from college staff.

ABSOLUTELY TRUE. My wife is a retired teacher that goes in to sub whenever we are on vacation or the weather is so nice we go boating.

Most of what you said is true - parents are the biggest problem. But, the new teachers are soooo liberal minded and have been indoctrinated by the schools that they don't know how to think. PLus, in their young age, since the school systems have been aborted for so long, they simply dont know nuthin.

But YES, the school admins are still the root cause of the problem.
 
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In doing land title work I had to understand ancient measurements like links, chains, perches, and roods (not rods) and convert them into modern measurements. It was insinuated that I was George Washington's rod man. I made it a point to teach these things to anybody new in the real estate department at my old firm.

I don't know by heart what some of the terms equal, but I DO know what they are. So, I can simply google it to see the conversion factor and all is well.

The problem is that the kiddies see a word they don't understand and can't take the time to look it up because it would take away their farcebook time.

META = making everyone total arseholes.
 
Well, OK, I'll play. I spent the first half of my working career as a bricklayer. We had such a thing as a brick scale (man, wish I had one at this location for a pic). It would help you lay out courses of brick. Bricks are nominally 2 5/8" thick plus a nominal 3/8" mortar joint to equal 3" total. More or less. Brick thickness might vary a quarter inch or so. So, to stack a pile of bricks to a precise height requires some delicate calculations. A brick spacing rule measured these spacings to the tenth. You could vary the thickness of the bed joint over a series of courses to make up the correct height. For instance, if the mason on one end of the line had 22 courses at a size four joint, the mason at the other end of the line might have 22 courses at a size five joint. Dang those concrete and framer guys! If he had had 23 courses, you have a problem and should probably fire somebody!

found an online pic sort of
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I digress. The impetus for this story is that I once built a foundation, footer and block walls, for the guy that was going to erect the log house. I built it precisely to his dimensions but was perturbed when he was perturbed that every dimension was 4" short of his expectation.

It turned out that his training as a machinist had everything laid out to center dimensions. My training in construction had everything measured to outside dimensions. My 8" wall didn't match up with his expectations. Who'd thunk? We eventually solved the problem, and the cabin is still here across the road 40 years later. Don't get me started on metrics, although I can make use of a 13 mm box end.
 
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