are we living in the post rifle age?

[smoothshooter]

A good shotgun in any gauge is hard to beat.

 

[smoothshooter]

the reason i don't like extra guns is i feel bad when i can't focus all my training on one gun

Strange way of thinking.
OCD?

 

[BabaBlueJay]

That is a personal choice, for you maybe, for others certainly not. While I only own my 686-1, I completely understand why many enjoy the AR platform. SHTF is certainly a reason, but not the only reason to own one. They make for great hunting rifles (I know the 2nd amendment is not just for hunting but I hear they are great for that). They are also good for large threats like bears or violent mobs. Each person must determine what firearms if any are ¨necessary¨ for their situation, and I am sure that varies person to person. While I do not own one myself, I fully support the right of others to do so.

 

[RCL-09]

Member is a troll, ignore him.

What's your handle at the Washington Post, or the NYT?

It certainly looks like trolling.

The questions contain an ignorance based/born of the anti 2nd crowd.

Intimating that the AR15 is obsolete.

Questioning its use as a self defense tool.

Inflammatory language "...expecting to fight a war."

Separating civilians from gun ownership "...talking more about the civilian context."

Agreeing with the gun grabbers "...i can sort of see what democrats mean when they say you don't need a rifle, they mean it in a general sense in the context of people living in the city"

Blaming gun manufactures "i just think the whole "buy more guns, get a rifle, a carbine, a sniper rifle, a shotgun, a pcc, etc, etc is just a corporate scam meant to make you spend a lot of money..."


Questioning the need of an AR15 "...on things you don't need."

Conflating carrying a handgun with carrying a rifle "...is there really any opportunity to carry your ar-15 in a place like los angeles..."

Proffering the lie that gun bans are not the objective :.."they'll ban it so get it before they ban it" paranoia,...."

Imposing his gun grabbing POV on everyone else "...i just don't see the point of owning one when it'll never be anything other than a range toy. i don't believe in range toys..."


All of his posts are nothing more that the regurgitation of the anti 2nd gun grabbing left.

 

[Mongo1958]

aka are we in the age of pistols? are ar-15s and rifles in general obsolete in most american cities?


i'm very tempted to sell my ar-15 which is just sitting collecting dust. for home defense, i can use my full size or compact guns, for conceal carry i can carry my m&p shield.


so what is the point of the ar-15 for most people unless they're expecting to fight a war? i stopped believing shtf is going to be a possibility and it's just not financially responsible to keep these guns and bullets and training for the rifle.

Never give up your rifle.

 

[RCL-09]

The AR15.

The most versatile rifle ever. It can be had, with simple activity, in everything from .22lr to .50BMG.

A rifle used extensively in all kinds of competitions including 3-gun matches up to long range (1,000 yards) such as the Wimbledon Cup.

Excellent rifle to teach new shooters due to ease of operation, low recoil, ability to customize, accuracy, etc.

Used in plinking, competition, hunting, self defense, training, etc.

A rifle that is EXCELLENT for hog hunting and can easily be made to hunt any game animal in North America.

A perfect platform for self defense due to accuracy and ammo selection.

Need has nothing to do with it. Citing "need" ignores truth and reality and has never been a prerequisite for exercising one's Constitutional rights.

An attempt to classify the AR15 as obsolete and not useful is an intentional prevarication.

 

[Der Verminator]

yes but i'm talking more about the civilian context. i don't agree with taking anyone's rifles away, but i can sort of see what democrats mean when they say you don't need a rifle, they mean it in a general sense in the context of people living in the city

You're right.

This is why when we sent troops into house to house fighting in Fallujah we just armed them with pistols.

Pistols are all that's needed in a city.

Or what?

 

[quikdraw67]

Normally trolls don't make a couple hundred posts before they start trolling something like this.

I read some of his posts in the past and some are a little out there but within the realm of normal. Very few are troll like and even then they just reflect somewhat odd, or perhaps myopic, points of view (like this "no one needs a rifle" thread).

But I see plenty of other narrow minded folks on the forum as well. Are we going go to call them all trolls as well?

How exactly does it work when someone derides folks for being a sheep for following a herd, but then wants to just dismiss anyone who disagrees with *their* herd as a troll? That's not an internally consistent approach to take.

If it talks like a troll and posts like a troll...

Sleeper agent.

 

[ladder13]

He seems to be winning.

 

[IronSkillet]

Taking the OP's question along with his statement of being a "non believer" of crisis like situations. If you are not enjoying the MDSR or any other rifle for that matter, it's you're decision to make. Inquiring on a firearms forum somewhat limits the opinions of like minded people found here, not much of a control group to base information on. I worked in a dangerous place my employer provided a Colt rifle, Remington shotgun, side arm, and enough chemical agents to make big clouds with. When it came time to use the tools each had a special purpose with specific use. Keeping proficient with each after initial training along with semi-annual qualifications was required. Fast forward been retired for years now, still enjoy going to the range and shooting the old work tools and many other firearms. It is one thing to own a weapon and understand how it operates, it is something completely different to be in a hostile threatening situation with your butt-hole so tight you can't relax it.
Figure it out for yourself; what will work best you, if you do not enjoy the range time and associated costs it appears you have already made the decision. Best wishes on whatever you decide. Cheers

 

[Der Verminator]

I don't believe in calling people trolls.

I think it's stupid.

He didn't force you to read and comment.

 

[Laketime]

Our administrators here are very sharp and quick to remove a troll.He might be just voicing his personal opinions and looking to see if others agree.From the looks of it he is alone in his thinking.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Our administrators here are very sharp and quick to remove a troll.He might be just voicing his personal opinions and looking to see if others agree.From the looks of it he is alone in his thinking.

Well, he/she just got back from a 30 day involuntary forum vacation, so there's that. Given my experience with infraction points, you kinda have to set that as a goal . . .

 

[Buford57]

AR-15 Either everybody needs one and you're irresponsible if you don't have one or nobody needs one and you're irresponsible if you do. At the risk of being vilified by both sides, let me suggest that it is a viable option in many. but not all circumstances, a better option than a pistol in some cases and a lesser option in others, but definitely not obsolete and probably won't be until replaced by the phaser or plasma rifle. To steal a great line from Matthew Quigley "I said I didn't have much use for one, not that I didn't know how to use one."

 

[Laketime]

Well, he/she just got back from a 30 day involuntary forum vacation, so there's that. Given my experience with infraction points, you kinda have to set that as a goal . . .

Not always, I get nailed a lot for posting a thread in the wrong forum like an idiot. Im just giving him the benefit of doubt because I know how our administration team keeps a clean house.

 

[Buford57]

FWIW, I live in the suburbs and if I were sitting on the front porch and a gang of thugs rolled through the neighborhood randomly shooting at houses (as the news tells us sometimes happens, the truth of which is questionable), I'd grab a rifle, not a handgun. Anything more than about 15-20 yards away and in motion, and handgun sights are no longer optimal. Rifle sights and a good stable hold are better. But I guess the OP lives in Mayberry, or Lake Wobegon, where life is perfect.

I live in the suburbs, too, and while I'd prefer a rifle or shotgun in the situation you describe, chances are good that what I would have immediately accessible is a handgun, concealed on my person. Even when the mostly peaceful protesters were doing undocumented shopping one town away a couple summers ago the long guns were inside.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

aka are we in the age of pistols? are ar-15s and rifles in general obsolete in most american cities?


i'm very tempted to sell my ar-15 which is just sitting collecting dust. for home defense, i can use my full size or compact guns, for conceal carry i can carry my m&p shield.


so what is the point of the ar-15 for most people unless they're expecting to fight a war? i stopped believing shtf is going to be a possibility and it's just not financially responsible to keep these guns and bullets and training for the rifle.

Don't get out much do ya???? Pistolas are a small part of the entire firearms equation.

 

[Patrick L]

Don't want to add to the flames, just saying personally I found myself in the same boat a year ago. My AR was purchased for NRA Highpower, but I long ago lost interest in shooting that particular rifle. So it too sat basically unused for years.

Last year I traded it in on another Browning OU, which I shoot constantly along with the other 10 or 11 shotguns (lost count!!)

I'm not fighting a war, or planning to resist the Federales. My guns are golf clubs to me (recreational equipment) so I buy what I enjoy playing with.

That is just me. I won't argue with those who feel differently.

 

[ladder13]

If he/she is a troll, the mods will deal with it. Not my job.

 

[Imissedagain]

My guns are golf clubs to me (recreational equipment) so I buy what I enjoy playing with.

Do your bullets PING when they hit metal?

Buddy asked why anyone needs so many guns.
How many clubs are in those three bags of Pings you own, said I.
He knows I just own a 1 iron and my Mom's clubs.

A few years later he told me that his eldest son has a vault room and a reloading room.
No guns with wine/beer, just axe throwing and Bocce.
I sent his son some Italian flag grips, from the late seventies, for his 1911 collection but as of yesterday he has no wheel guns.
Sad but true.

This Winter, when they're down here, it'll be a 460 fest and fishing the Keys, as last Winter was a bit Covid.