Bucheimer and Bucheimer-Clark holster fit charts - 1953-1975 & later

[Ranxerox]

A 1980's magazine article that I saved says P6 for Hamburg.

The "crosshair" B symbol is a 1980's mark.

Everything in the Bucheimer saga mid to late 80's got really mixed up.

I'll put down 81 tentatively as a designation for Sig!!

Thanks for the useful info, P6 is actually the police version of the P225, only slightly modified. Unfortunately further information is (as far as i know) available in German only:

SIG Sauer P225 – Wikipedia

the holster actually fits a few models of the 220- line of Sig Sauer.

 

[rednichols]

Both J.M. Bucheimer and Bucheimer-Clark made the Concealer by the end of the two companies' tenures 1983 or so. It was the latter that prefixed the number with 'C' for "concealer" and the former that used one of their scrambled numberings and the name 'Concealer'.

This is from B-C's 1980 catalog:



While this is a J.M.B. holster with the name marked on it, from the '70s:



By the end of the '70s the two companies were in disarray that went beyond the '78 death of the Tandy boss. And from then on one needs a roadmap, which I have, to unscramble it all.

 

[Ranxerox]

Thanks @rednichols for the further, accurate information (you don't "have" a road map, you are one

 

[SG-688]

Updates to the updates

I added the 1980 information to the master list and replaced the list in a couple of places the pdf is attached to a post.

I inserted new designations into the list. It got a little complicated, so if I've made any mistakes, please tell me so I can correct them.

The major change is that the 1980 list included Taurus and Ruger DA Security/Speed/Service 6 revolvers in the S&W frame size lists. Rather than add Taurus and/or Ruger to every number code, I simply wrote a note like this one.
--- added --- Also now some Dan Wesson using S&W K frame codes.

Attaching latest - 2024 - version of the list here too.
---- Deleted --- See first and last pages for master list pdf.

Craig

 

[Ranxerox]

Unknown again

Hi girls

Here we go again, this is a Bucheimer that obviously fits old Goofy (shooters call the historic 1911 that way here in Krautland) but I'd like to know a bit more if possible.

Here a couple of pics:

and it's stamped inside:

 

[SG-688]

Not much to say. 1960-ish and on USGI contract production.

 

[Ranxerox]

Not much to say. 1960-ish and on USGI contract production.

Enough information to me, thanks!

 

[Ranxerox]

Hi everybody

I apologize in advance with the moderation because I'm slightly OT, but I stumbled upon this rifle sling which to my surprise is marked Bucheimer.

Nothing to be found in the charts that thanks to you guys I downloaded and carefully saved, anyone knows what/for which gun this might be? Here:

 

[Arisin Wind]

It appears to be a military target style sling M1907 popular early-mid last century. Slings usually aren't made for specific rifles. Sometimes you need to match a sling to swivels but this isn't the case. The leather goes through the swivels. That sling would look nice on many rifles. Dollars to donuts it was bought for a M1 Garand.

Here's a link to installing and using the sling.

How To Use A M1907 Shooting Sling - Firearms News

 

[Ranxerox]

It appears to be a military target style sling M1907 popular early-mid last century. Slings usually aren't made for specific rifles. Sometimes you need to match a sling to swivels but this isn't the case. The leather goes through the swivels. That sling would look nice on many rifles. Dollars to donuts it was bought for a M1 Garand.

Here's a link to installing and using the sling.

How To Use A M1907 Shooting Sling - Firearms News

Thank you, that's enough information for me to sell it well

 

[SG-688]

1971 Bucheimer catalog page 29. Slings and carrying straps.

 

[Ranxerox]

1971 Bucheimer catalog page 29. Slings and carrying straps.

Thank you!

 

[SG-688]

Another holster for the mystery 87 fit code

Our Canadian friend found this Bucheimer holster with the fit code 87 that we've not identified. It's a dual-loop thumb-snap belt holster with the 1980's code system. Holster model number 222 ...is new...too.

01 for holster. 222 for the model number and 87 for the fit code.

The S&W pistol is shown but is clearly not correct. Current guess is that the strap over the back of the grip is made that way because the intended pistol slide has a slanted rear that would not hold the strap. One example would be the HK P9, but we're not yet ready to pencil in that ID.

 

[SG-688]

Nassau

Another from our Canadian friend: the Bucheimer Nassau model police holster that I understand was designed and named for the Nassau County, New York police.

Of course, by this point all members will recognize immediately that 34W signifies a basketweave holster for a 4 inch K frame S&W revolver with adjustable sights.

 

[rednichols]

Our Canadian friend found this Bucheimer holster with the fit code 87 that we've not identified. It's a dual-loop thumb-snap belt holster with the 1980's code system. Holster model number 222 ...is new...too.

01 for holster. 222 for the model number and 87 for the fit code.

The S&W pistol is shown but is clearly not correct. Current guess is that the strap over the back of the grip is made that way because the intended pistol slide has a slanted rear that would not hold the strap. One example would be the HK P9, but we're not yet ready to pencil in that ID.

Unfamiliar model, unfamiliar fitment mark? Logic tells us this then is from the final Bucheimer years that began circa 1980. It is my theory that any Bucheimer with that particular marks is from that era until it closed up.

Immediately prior to that mark I believe their mark looked like this one shown at upper left of the J.M.B. catalog for '76:

Those who should know the most about Bucheimer's final years ain't sayin' one way or the other.

 

[SG-688]

Bucheimer rifle and shotgun case fit chart

I bought this Bucheimer model 3952 canvas & leather rifle case from a retired state trooper. Model 39 case for scoped rifles in 52 inch length.

In the 70's - before SWAT - he was a designated rifleman with an issued Winchester M-70 in '06. I'd like to think he packed that rifle in this case. (Probably not, but I'll ask next time.)

The 1971 catalog had 9 pages of gun cases and scabbards. $18.98 for the #39 case; the carry handle is the #243 sling that was $3 by itself.

The similar case in rough-out leather was $24.98 with the next steps in smooth leather being $39.98 and $67.50.

The trim and sling are the nicest pieces of leather I've ever seen with the Bucheimer stamp!

For all of you eager to know what that case in your closet is designed to hold, the fit chart is from the 1976 catalog. I attached the chart in jpg and pdf; use whichever works best for you.

..

 

[turnerriver]

That is a fine looking case in superb condition. Thanks for showing it to us.
Regards,

 

[Lee Barner]

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[majick47]

Bucheimer Consealer Holster for Sig P-220/Browning BDA

Hi,

and thanks for replying- I suppose I had to provide more detailed information, the stamp on top is a stylized

Coat of arms of Hamburg - Wikipedia

thus my guess of the hamburger police, for which the Holster might have been a customized order.

This could be the reason why it is not listed in the official charts, but I already know some guns that fit in it because I tried out a few and the Holster seems to be an all- eater. To find out for which gun it is specifically designed for, it would be helpful to know the years in which it has been manufactured.

It would be then easy to check which was the duty gun in Hamburg at that time. Here some pics for your interest guys:

The guns are, in order of appearance:

- ISSC M22

- Sig Sauer P225 (probably the "right" one)

- Sig Sauer P226

- Beretta 92 F

Ranxerox re the tan Bucheimer Consealer holster you have that has the Hamburg seal and stamped C-81 I am certain it was intended for the Sig P-220 and the Browning BDA. I recently purchased a Bucheimer black holster off Ebay marked B 01 004 81 and it fits both the early non rail P-220/P-226. From the appearance the prior owner was using it for a P-225/P-6 which would fit but has a shorter barrel. My holster isn't marked Consealer and differers slightly from your holster, suspect it was mfg in the mid 1980s. The black Bucheimer holster you have appears to be correct for the P-6/P-225.

 

[Ranxerox]

Hi guys, here I am again, with another question the ctrl+f could't answer: anyone knows what this is

?

I stumbled upon another one of these, apparently older but with the same code NJR and as I searched the thread I couldn't find any answer...here the pics

My guess is some S&W of the 39 or 59 series, anyone know more?