Be Careful in New Jersey

[bushmaster1313]

New Jersey Senate just passed the bill already passed by the Assembly to severely restrict concealed carry throughout the state. Big provisions include:

No carry in vehicle unless unloaded and locked in trunk or case;
Cannot carry on private property unless owner gives permission;
In 6 months must have carry insurance unavailable at present.

Even if unconstitutional the above will soon be the law unless and until a court overturns it

 

[robertrwalsh]

That has zero chance of surviving appeal, but the N.J legislature doesn't give a hoot, they just want to inconvenience as many gun owners as much as possible for as long as possible.

 

[bushmaster1313]

That has zero chance of surviving appeal, but the N.J legislature doesn't give a hoot, they just want to inconvenience as many gun owners as much as possible for as long as possible.

First it will go to an anti 2A District Judge who will delay as long as possible and uphold as much as possible. Then it will go to an anti 2A Third Circuit who will delay as much as possible and uphold as much as possible. Then it will be appealed to the Supreme Court and if the Supreme Court agrees to hear the case and if there are still 5 Justices who believe in the 2A it will likely be overturned for violating the Constitution.

In the meantime, get nabbed for violating these laws and no matter what you argue about the Constitution you will be in a world of hurt.

 

[Bald1]

Same as NY. Already struck down most of it. The rest is about to get struck down…….. when it first passed I was surprised how many signs I saw permitting conceal carry on private property

 

[S-W4EVER]

I have grown to really hate that kind of garbage. Disarming honest people does nothing to make people safer, in fact it makes communities less safe. I know, I'm preaching to the choir...

 

[Narragansett]

New Jersey Senate just passed the bill already passed by the Assembly to severely restrict concealed carry throughout the state. Big provisions include:
Cannot carry in vehicle
Cannot carry in private property unless owner gives permission
In 6 months must have carry insurance unavailable at present.

Even if unconstitutional the above will soon be the law unless and until a court overturns it

Am I getting this right, you have a CCW, and you cannot wear your gun in your own car?

 

[pantannojack]

I have grown to really hate that kind of garbage. Disarming honest people does nothing to make people safer, in fact it makes communities less safe. I know, I'm preaching to the choir...

People not accredited by woke college degree are only safe when confined in padded cells wearing straight jacket.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Am I getting this right, you have a CCW, and you cannot wear your gun in your own car?

Bingo
Must be unloaded and locked up while in vehicle
Common sense firearm regulation don't you know

 

[SMSgt]

Bingo
Must be unloaded and locked up while in vehicle
Common sense firearm regulation don't you know

Sounds like a direct violation of the Heller decision.

 

[mauser9]

N.J. sure sounds like the pits.

 

[johngalt]

Ohio took an interesting path.

Drug their feet for a long time and finally passed concealed carry, with a lot of restrictions.
* Required to notify (with lots of cases where police took liberties with the definition of "immediately")
* Could not carry concealed in your car (must be open)
* Lots of restrictions on where you could carry
* Almost every violation was a felony.

Now it's made its way to constitutional carry. I had my doubts it would ever happen.

 

[Rodan]

There needs to be serious consequences for legislators who pass, and prosecutors and judges who pursue prosecution under and uphold clearly unconsitutional statutes.

Police officers can be held personally liable for violations of civil rights under USC 1983. It's time for the same to be extended to prosecutors, judges and legislatures.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I live in Ohio and have two Children and 5 grandkids in New Jersey and one +2 in PA. I still carry my permit for use in WVA, PA, and many other states. If I'm visiting NJ or Md, I usually don't take a gun along! It isn't right, but I have better things to do with my time, than be searched and interrogated for an afternoon!

However, in 17 years I have never spent a dollar in Md! One of the few things I have bought in NJ was a holster and ammo!

Ivan

 

[URIT]

NJ is no longer a drive through state, but a drive around state.

After some thought, I can't think of a single reason to be in that part of the country.

 

[Sixgun100]

When I drive South from Vermont, I swing West and take I-81. Avoid NYC, NJ, Washington DC, etc. It's really sad because I was hoping to visit the USS New Jersey and The Air and Space Museum. We'll see what I decide………

 

[ladder13]

81 goes through MD for awhile, 12.08 miles to be specific, no respite there, and maybe worse.

 

[serger]

I feel so sorry for you Garden State folks having to
put up with this stuff. Reminded me of the old Pace
Picante Sauce commercial.

I think we need to substitute politicians for the
cattle drivers cook.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk78nzoqEFo[/ame]

 

[mauser9]

And I thought Ma. was the worst! At least I can renew without going through hell and back.

 

[Doug M.]

To me, the definition of "careful" is to avoid places like that completely. Family gatherings can be arranged at a reasonable more or less central location. Example: I have one sibling near Little Rock, another near Buffalo, and one in Northern Indiana. As a rule, when we meet up - it is in Indiana.

 

[Paul in Nevada]

I don't know why people are always so quick to say, "won't survive a court challenge!". These things almost always do. The vehicle restriction has been the law in CA for over 20 years and the other two laws have been enacted by municipalities.