when will you buy primers?

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So some say the reason primer prices are high is because people are paying the high price.
So how low do they have to go before we should start buying and how low do you think the price will go.
I will tell you I am not going to hold my breath and not buy waiting for them to be 3 cents again.
 
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Since I own guns to shoot, an reloading equipment to reload, I will buy them when I need them. I am not going to deprive myself of the enjoyment of my hobby, just like I didn't stop riding my motorcycle when gas went way up. I guess it is to each their own. I prefer to shoot rather than store my firearms.
 
As soon as I need them but it will be a while as I purchased many thousands when they plentiful and cheap with many discounts and sometimes free shipping or haz mat. Hind sight is 2020 but those of us around for a while have seen several shortages and knew to buy when they were easy to get.
 
$110 per thousand seems to be as low as they're going to get. I almost bought some last week, but didn't. I was just amazed to see so many bricks in the store.
 
I purchased CCI SPP from my LGS not too long ago . I paid $89.95/1000 ...no shipping or hazmat fees. I will buy more as soon as he has them available .
I suspect most of those refusing to pay the going prices have a good supply of primers already in stock and don't need to buy more at present.
I'm pretty new to reloading and will take what I can get . Even at the current prices for primers I can still reload .38 and .45 ACP for .25 cents per round using my own brass. I don't plan on leaving my Colt 1911 or S&W Model 14 sitting unused in my gun safe .
Gas was quite a bit higher not too long ago . I didn't leave my car sitting in the driveway until gas prices dropped . I gritted my teeth ...paid more for a tank of gas and carried on.
 
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I predict the new prices when this "shortage" is addressed will be about 60-75 dollars The sellers have learned a lesson...We will pay more for primers when we're worried about the future. They will find a way to keep us worried. I really do feel the prices WILL moderate but not drop like 9mm ammo. We went from at least 4 primer manufacturers to 2. And The gummit kinda banned importation of Russian goods...and commodity prices are way up...and other problems will keep prices higher. Unfortunately
 
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I actually lucked out during the plandemic in late 2020, and stumbled upon 2000 magnum SPP at $37 per brick at Sportsman's Warehouse. I couldn't get to the checkout line quickly enough. I doubt we'll ever see that price again.

A bit later, out of necessity, I bit the bullet and bought 5000 SPP for $400 including shipping on-line. Even that looks cheap now. At least I'm set for a good long while with rifle and pistol primers large and small. I don't know if I'll ever have to buy another primer. I hope not.

Lots of people are facing tough decisions regarding re-loading components right now. I'd say if you can afford them, get them while you still can. Target Sports has CCI 500 SPP right now for $85 per 1000 with free shipping. If I was desperate I'd pay that, if not I'd wait. I agree that around $60 per 1000 would be considered a good deal.
 
I have tens of thousands of pistol primers and around 10k of SRPs as well.
The only primers I need are LRPs, and they seem to be the hardest to come by and the highest in price.
I'd be a buyer at around $70 per 1000, but I don't need them badly enough to pay any more than that for them.
 
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My last trip into Cabellas they had plenty of ammo and primers but they were selling them at gunshow prices. I Think they found out what we will pay and the price won't come down far. I remember the Arab embargo in '73-'74. gas went from 35 cents a gallon to 80+ and has never come back down.
SWCA 892
 
Given what they cost a few years ago, they will likely be back there, only with inflation added, like everything else. If the demand doesn't go down, the supply will likely go up. There is money to be made. There is also the possibility of foreign investment increasing the supply.

73,
Rick
 
The wife and I buy them when we need them. We have paid as high as $120/100, two weeks ago we got some for $50/1000. But we shoot a lot. During the competition season from February to November we shoot a LOT! Last year in 9mm alone we did right around 25,600 rounds. Then 45 caliber in GAP for her, ACP for me in heavy metal divisions. I'm going to revisit the 40 S&W again this year for some matches, I believe 7,500 rounds or so should do it.

It's what we do though, so we grit our teeth and pay it. $.07-8 cents a piece will be the new norm. The bidenomics is just going to be a killer on anything you buy from now on. It's not the manufacturer ripping us off, or the fact that we and others keep buying, it just is what it is…

Ginex has been a reliable substitute, but I haven't tried them in an unlimited gun yet. We have 100 k of spp in inventory to start this season, maybe enough for 2.5 seasons.

If Fiocchi becomes available again, I would buy 50k of them just because. They have worked well in any spp load I have tried them in.

Regards, Rick Gibbs
 
Right now, domestic primer manufacture is almost a monopoly. Vista Outdoor owns Federal, CCI, and Remington. There's no way Vista will let their subsidiaries start trying to undercut each other. Besides those makers, there's Winchester, and that's about it.
Eventually, supply and demand should normalize things.
If it weren't for Vista Outdoor, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
There's simply not 10 cents of material or manufacturing cost in a single primer. Someone will see that the demand is there, and the void will be filled by a more competitive product.
Maybe we'll see Norma or RWS re-enter the American market? They make fantastic products.
I'd be more than happy to buy RWS Sinoxid primers!! They were great!
In fact, if a really high quality primer like that reappeared in the US, I'd buy it just to "blow a raspberry" at Vista!

By the way, over the past couple years, VSTO stock has been as high as $50+/share. Now, it's about half of that. They're going to milk us for every cent they can while they're hurting and while they know they largely control the market. I suspect that if things get competitive, they'll drop their reloading product lines.
 
My last trip into Cabellas they had plenty of ammo and primers but they were selling them at gunshow prices. I Think they found out what we will pay and the price won't come down far. I remember the Arab embargo in '73-'74. gas went from 35 cents a gallon to 80+ and has never come back down.
SWCA 892

Not to derail, but that's a good example. I remember that and you're right, the supply came back, but the price never dropped.
 

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