Be Careful in New Jersey

I adopted that policy when my son and Daughter in Law moved from there to Alabama. When we drive to SC, we take a detour through upstate NY into PA, then south.

NJ is no longer a drive through state, but a drive around state.

After some thought, I can't think of a single reason to be in that part of the country.
 
That was prior to Bruen. A lot of state restrictions are falling by the wayside, although it will take a couple of years to shake out.


I don't know why people are always so quick to say, "won't survive a court challenge!". These things almost always do. The vehicle restriction has been the law in CA for over 20 years and the other two laws have been enacted by municipalities.
 
That was prior to Bruen. A lot of state restrictions are falling by the wayside, although it will take a couple of years to shake out.
I heard the same thing after McDonald and Heller but i hope you are right.
 
When I was issued my permit, the deputy passed it to me with the words, "stay out of and away from schools, stay out of government buildings, stay out of New Jersey".:D
 
The NJ governor signed the bill yesterday, all over the Philadelphia news.
 
That has zero chance of surviving appeal, but the N.J legislature doesn't give a hoot, they just want to inconvenience as many gun owners as much as possible for as long as possible.

Just like Illinois.

Instead of governing they are grinding axes.
 
Heller lead to McDonald. There were intermediate victories along the way, including the case that resulted in IL starting to issue CCW permits.

I think some people are underestimating how huge a change Bruen is.

By eliminating "intermediate scrutiny" and requiring "text and history" from the time that the Constitution was ratified until the 14th Amendment was ratified changes what the lower courts can do.

Remember, that in McDonald, Justice Thomas wrote an opinion in which he concurred with the decision, but he disagreed with the reasoning. If he had had his way, the Privileges or Immunities clause in the 14th Amendment would have been resurrected and there would be no need to talk about reciprocity across state lines.

Reciprocity too will likely happen as a result of Bruen, but the road will be longer.

I heard the same thing after McDonald and Heller but i hope you are right.
 
The Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, who I believe to be an NRA affiliate (one reason to give to the NRA), immediately filed a lawsuit challenging almost all provisions of the new law. About 2 hours later the Second Amendment Foundation filed its own lawsuit challenging a subset of the provisions challenged in the first lawsuit. The first lawsuit was assigned to a Biden appointed judge and the second lawsuit went to a Bush 43 appointee. Not surprisingly, New Jersey filed an emergency motion to have both cases heard by the Biden appointee.

In the first case the plaintiffs promptly moved for a temporary restraining order and the judge ordered a fairly quick briefing schedule, with oral argument set for January 9.

Hang on to your hats boys and girls it's going to be a bumpy ride.
 
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The recent New Jersey anti carry law is getting hammered in the New Jersey Federal courts. For now, New Jersey is enjoined from enforcing the private property and vehicle restrictions. But that could change in a flash on an emergency appeal by the state.

Note: At a hearing yesterday the Judge said to the State attorney something to the effect of: "Sometimes we wish that the Supreme Court would be more clear in its instructions. But Bruen is not one of those cases, right?"

Translation: "Hey Buster, the Supreme Court could not have been more clear — ordinary people have a right to carry a gun for self defense outside the home and NOTHING you can say or do will get me to interfere with that!"
 
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There needs to be serious consequences for legislators who pass, and prosecutors and judges who pursue prosecution under and uphold clearly unconsitutional statutes.

Police officers can be held personally liable for violations of civil rights under USC 1983. It's time for the same to be extended to prosecutors, judges and legislatures.

If the voters won't hold them accountable by removing them from office, who do you think will?
 
When I drive South from Vermont, I swing West and take I-81. Avoid NYC, NJ, Washington DC, etc. It's really sad because I was hoping to visit the USS New Jersey and The Air and Space Museum. We'll see what I decide………

When you travel south on I-81 into Va. exit #313 (Winchester Va.) take Rt 50 east. Head about 25 miles to the Udvar Hazy Air and Space museum next to Dulles airport. Much nicer than the old Air and Space museum in DC. While in the area take Rt 5o another eight miles east to Waples Mill Rd and visit the NRA museum. You will be in Virginia the entire time
 
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Just another reason not to travel to vacation in or spend a penny in NJ. I know that's not an option for many, but now that I'm retired, I'm very selective on my travel itineraries.
 
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When I drive South from Vermont, I swing West and take I-81. Avoid NYC, NJ, Washington DC, etc. It's really sad because I was hoping to visit the USS New Jersey and The Air and Space Museum. We'll see what I decide………

Stop in Wilmington, NC and visit the USS North Carolina. And you needed worried about getting mugged or arrested for having a firearm.
 
Was born and raised in New Jersey, and left in 1983 for better job opportunities and I never looked back. Have many relatives who have also woke up, and bailed...! Getting over run with liberals and always has been anti-gun as long as I can remember...NO THANK YOU !
 

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