Powder Valley has small pistol and small rifle primers in stock and for sale. $120 per 1500. FYI.
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Fiocchi primers at Powder Valley
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Funflyer
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Things are getting a little better each week. Can't wait until local stores have their shelves stocked. Thanks for posting.
I'd say a little better each year, but who's keeping track.... 2020 was $150 per thousand, 2021 was $125, 2022 was $100 and now we're at $80 per thousand. Maybe by 2025 we'll be down to $40 to $50.
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SweetMK
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I hope so. I'll probably need some by then.Larry
I stopped last Saturday at a local gun store that has had reliable low cost reloading components (as much as possible) through this whole mess,,
I was shocked that ALL primers were $12.95 per 100.
That is crazy pricing, now that some stuff has backed down, pricewise,,
Even if he paid BIG$$$ for the inventory, he needs to eat some loss, and go on,,
Keeping prices that high just looses customers,,
I am sure that the loss would be covered by the profit he made as prices went up.
You can not make customers mad,, and succeed,,
gfors
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Fiocchi is supposed to build a primer plant this year, in Little Rock, AR. Maybe we'll finally see an easing of the shortage of primers.
DWalt
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The interesting thing about Fiocchi primers to be made at Little Rock is that they will be lead-free. I predict that within 10 years, maybe sooner, all primers will be. There are several different lead-free technologies available. Federal has been producing some for awhile based on the Thermite reaction, and I believe that is what Fiocchi will use. I have no idea what type primer mix the EXP primers are/will be using. The relatively new AA40 military 5.56mm training round made by Federal uses lead-free primers. Also lead-free frangible bullets. I did all of the early developmental work on that round in the early 2000s. Federal Ammo Awarded $114M AA40 Frangible Ammunition Contract
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You cannot sell at a loss and succeed. I'd take my chances at pissing people off.
The problem when prices are rising is cash flow. Let's say you buy powder at $10 and sell it for $14. Then the wholesale price goes up to $12. Instead of pocketing a $4 gross profit, which is probably more like $2 net, you only get $2 because you have to pay the higher price to replace the inventory.
In order to cover the inventory replacement cost, you need to sell that $10 can of powder for $16 if you want to maintain your cash flow. In times of high inflation it's hard to forecast the rising prices, so people guess and they guess high. Because if you guess wrong you get starved for cash. That's how businesses go broke.
Now my example may not be exactly right but the same condition exists no matter what the numbers.
9mmPatriot
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There are countless examples of "Loss Leaders" in all retail spaces. It's a common practice that was worked for a very long time.
Too bad primers aren't in that category.
Too bad primers aren't in that category.
Hasbeen1945
Absent Comrade
I think you are exactly right. Ask any gas station owner.
I've had no issues loading the FIO shotgun primers, so giving these a try.
Appreciate the heads up, thank you!
len917
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At $80/thousand I will pass. I guess primers are on the short end for the whole industry, but sooner or later the inventory will catch up. I will wait.
SuperMan
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About four years ago I bought a 15k case and split it with a friend...the primers have been excellent. I think at the time it worked out to 2.3 cents per primer...
Some of the guys that I shoot with needed primers so we went in for 30k...two cases...was $125 per 1500 brick delivered with shipping and HazMat fee.
Current retail for CCI standard primers is $69.95 a brick of 1000. Saw one company yesterday who has some but they are in the $110-140 area for small and large pistol...
Bob
Some of the guys that I shoot with needed primers so we went in for 30k...two cases...was $125 per 1500 brick delivered with shipping and HazMat fee.
Current retail for CCI standard primers is $69.95 a brick of 1000. Saw one company yesterday who has some but they are in the $110-140 area for small and large pistol...
Bob
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kbm6893
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I'd buy right now (not happily but I would) if I was seeing $80 bricks in my local shop. Have t seen any for three years. Last primers I bought were on Midway for $110 a brick plus shipping and hazmat fees.
SPP are out of stock as of now.
0.12/ea isn't anywhere close to a reasonable price, unless you don't have any.
As explained above, think about replacing your stock, not what you paid for what you have on hand. That would mean when the price gets back to normal, say 0.07-0.08 buy enough for 3 years of loading. I've seen CCI for 0.08 recently online so we're getting close. Wait another 6 months.
0.12/ea isn't anywhere close to a reasonable price, unless you don't have any.
As explained above, think about replacing your stock, not what you paid for what you have on hand. That would mean when the price gets back to normal, say 0.07-0.08 buy enough for 3 years of loading. I've seen CCI for 0.08 recently online so we're getting close. Wait another 6 months.
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ArchAngelCD
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Seeing these prices makes me very grateful I still have enough SPP where I don't need to buy yet. I'm really hoping for ~$40/k but who knows.
I too have plenty SPP-SRP on hand and hoping to see the 40K price again. I just checked Brunos, PV, Natchez and Midsouth and they all have primers but adding shipping and Hazmat jacks the price up to $.12 - .14 range.
