Pocket Carry?

jbull380

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I see a lot of posts regarding different aspects of pocket carry.

I do not pocket carry. I do use IWB holsters and OWB holsters.

I'm on the range at a minimum of once a month and I do dry fire drills at least twice week using the holsters and clothing that I wear. This includes AR15 work as well.

My question. Those of you who pocket carry do you practice getting it out of the pocket and on to the target? Live fire? Dry fire? While sitting or other positions other than standing?

Just curious
 
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Sometimes unloaded at home. Range would have a coronary if I did it there.


This. Which would also apply if I was drawing from any holster. Also the gun is drawn at least once daily at the end of the day. A proper holster stays in the pocket. Repetition makes it smooth. Smooth makes it fast. I have to enter secure facilities off and on through the work day. In these cases I draw from sitting to secure the gun before leaving the vehicle.
 
I practice dry fire at home and live fire at my range, from the holster or pocket.

I begin with my hands in the surrender position and draw on command (I have a helper who times this). My objective is to draw and fire from the pocket in 2.5 seconds. Most times, I miss my objective by a second. This is standing.

I'm fortunate in that I can do live fire from the pocket or holster at my range.
 
My Club's numerous ranges, among others, is a "Combat Range". When you arrive at the club you must log in and say where you are going. Most ranges have a dozen or so positions. The Combat Range requires only one at a time.
 
jbull380 ... yes to all of your questions and to varying degrees and range situations and protocol.Live fire drawing usually only occurs when we're out shooting in the desert usually 3 or 4 times a year.
 
It is not my first choice, but pocket carry just plain works in a number of niche cases. Today, it was 90 deg and I was loading stuff in and out of the bed of my truck in public. There was no way I could guarantee my cover garment could do its job.

Because I regularly carry my 442, I regularly shoot it. Whenever I go to the range I practice draws from the pocket.
 
At the risk of baiting any airchair commandos who may be lurking here, I'm going to make the bold statement that there really isn't much training necessary for drawing a pocket carry firearm so long as you're being responsible and using a proper pocket holster.

After all, it's in your pocket, so reaching in, grabbing something inside and drawing it out is already pretty much second nature to begin with. All other aspects of drawing a firearm in particular just carry over seamlessly and effortlessly.

That being said, I'm prepared to get a lecture on the martial art that is drawing a firearm from a pocket which requires cat-like reflexes/dexterity and a zen-like state of mind complete with an hour of daily training to even grasp the basics of it, and how the writer would love to face me as an opponent in glorious mortal combat so that they could destroy me effortlessly because I'm a fool who doesn't understand nor appreciate the intricate, delicate, and precise procedure required to draw a pistol from a pocket.
To which I can only say; I bow my head to you, oh master of the art of pocket carry, I yield to the better man. Please direct me to the best-selling novel you've no doubt written on The Zen of Pocket Carry so that I might purchase it.
 
The idea has just never appealed to me much. If you're comfortable and proficient with it, hey, to each his own.
 
I practice with pocket draw infrequently because I carry that way rarely. When I do I practice eight or ten draws in the house, facing the brick fireplace with the gun empty. That isn't great but I figure it is adequate to ensure that it works for my hand and for the clothing I am wearing at the time. I then load up, drop a speed strip in the off-side pocket, and go on about my business. This happens maybe 2-3 times a year, maybe less.
 
I regularly carry either my Shield 45 or my 1.0 M&P 40c in a DeSantis pocket holster. (I'm used to carrying a lot of stuff in my pockets, so the weight doesn't bother me.) I've found that different pockets require slightly different drawing techniques, as the position of the grip varies from pocket to pocket. I can only practice drawing at home, as doing so at my range is Strictly Forbidden.
 
At the risk of baiting any airchair commandos who may be lurking here, I'm going to make the bold statement that there really isn't much training necessary for drawing a pocket carry firearm so long as you're being responsible and using a proper pocket holster.

After all, it's in your pocket, so reaching in, grabbing something inside and drawing it out is already pretty much second nature to begin with. All other aspects of drawing a firearm in particular just carry over seamlessly and effortlessly.
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At the risk of baiting any airchair commandos who may be lurking here, I'm going to make the bold statement that there really isn't much training necessary for drawing a pocket carry firearm so long as you're being responsible and using a proper pocket holster.

After all, it's in your pocket, so reaching in, grabbing something inside and drawing it out is already pretty much second nature to begin with. All other aspects of drawing a firearm in particular just carry over seamlessly and effortlessly.

That being said, I'm prepared to get a lecture on the martial art that is drawing a firearm from a pocket which requires cat-like reflexes/dexterity and a zen-like state of mind complete with an hour of daily training to even grasp the basics of it, and how the writer would love to face me as an opponent in glorious mortal combat so that they could destroy me effortlessly because I'm a fool who doesn't understand nor appreciate the intricate, delicate, and precise procedure required to draw a pistol from a pocket.
To which I can only say; I bow my head to you, oh master of the art of pocket carry, I yield to the better man. Please direct me to the best-selling novel you've no doubt written on The Zen of Pocket Carry so that I might purchase it.

None of that. Lol. The reason I mention is for instance, I teach among other things a church security class. I use the shooting at church in Texas a few years ago as an example to point out successes and failures. I ask those who pocket carry " can you get that pistol out of your pocket while sitting"? Or are you going to have stand up while everyone else is sitting or hitting the floor? In the video of that shooting a gentleman stood up to draw pistol that was in a holster (not pocket carry). When he stood up he caught bad guy's attention and was shot before he ever cleared leather. I just want people to think. Can I get to this thing quickly and easily from whatever position I'm in?
 
None of that. Lol. The reason I mention is for instance, I teach among other things a church security class. I use the shooting at church in Texas a few years ago as an example to point out successes and failures. I ask those who pocket carry " can you get that pistol out of your pocket while sitting"? Or are you going to have stand up while everyone else is sitting or hitting the floor? In the video of that shooting a gentleman stood up to draw pistol that was in a holster (not pocket carry). When he stood up he caught bad guy's attention and was shot before he ever cleared leather. I just want people to think. Can I get to this thing quickly and easily from whatever position I'm in?

If my memory is correct, one of the two good guys who was shot appeared to be having difficulty drawing his gun. He was carrying small of back, right side. I remember admiring his courage, standing his ground facing that shotgun just feet away and still trying to get his gun in play.

I agree with your point about drawing from a povvket while seated. I was just thinking about it in church this morning. As the greeter and usher I stand a lot. And I always stand on those occasions somebody I don't know comes in. The way we are laid out I have eyes on them as soon as they step inside from about 60 feet away.
 
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