Electric Vehicle Stupidity - Update Post 288

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Just saw on tonight's news that GM and Ford have made a deal with Tesla to use their charging stations. Apparently it may require a plug adapter?? (I know nothing about electric vehicle charging). Maybe this will help?

I know a stockholder in Tesla who must be real happy. Wish it were me.
 
How much tax money do they generate for the government when filling the battery?
 
I heard and interesting statistic yesterday. The total generating capacity of proposed solar/wind plants awaiting approval exceeds the current generating capacity of the entire country.
 
In the small town I live in, there is presently only one charging station downtown for EV. A Hyundai dealer about 5 miles away is installing a couple of charging stations at the dealership, but I don't know if the units will be available to the public or just for autos they sell. Bottom line, the infrastructure does not exist in Mississippi to support EV operation. There are several Air Force and Army installations in the state. If they are forced to switch to EV, it will be difficult for operations. A friend and former co-worker nearby just bought a Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid. I think that's the best option here.
 
Suddenly, the purchase of Plymouth Reliants for use as militay police patrol cars as part of the Chrysler bailout doesn't look like the dumbest military transportation procurement decision of my lifetime.
 
A 220 connection will charge these overnight.

In 15 to 20 years, we will no longer care about OPEC. Or anyone's Middle Eastern wars.

Recent history suggests that we can already be far less dependent on OPEC than we are. Aside from that, even if you could put a charging station in every house, there's no way that there will be enough electricity generated to power them all in the next twenty years. The irrational opposition to building more nuclear power plants and the war on coal will prevent it.
 
Easy fix.
Just trailer a bank of these (less the torpedo) from a retired diesel sub.
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Hybrids seem like the way to go now. A tiny engine that keeps the battery charged. Actually cuts pollution and gas usage without any change in infrastructure. Makes too much sense.

Now THERE is a realistic idea!
I read an interesting Road & Track article on this very subject the other day.
The problem is marketing. When people hear hybrid they think Prius, and frankly most are turned off by that thought.
So the article suggested marketing them as SELF-CHARGING EV's instead of hybrids.
However, rather than just a tiny engine, they need to have a relatively small, but efficient engine that is just powerful enough to push the car and charge the battery too, along with a battery that gives around 50-100 miles of range.
That way you can drive around town day in and day out on battery power, recharging at home overnight, but if you need to go father you can drive until the battery is drained, and switch to gas power to keep going AND recharge the battery.
Best of both worlds.
Still doesn't fully address the grid issues, but it is a good start.
 
Why are you projecting the performance of a 2023 Electric Truck to something that won't even be in service until 2027, approximately 4 years from now…


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The EV as we more or less know it, has been a thing since before the first Tesla roadster of 2008.
The technology has been largely stagnant, coaxing minor gains in Li Ion performance along the way.
What do you expect to happen in the next 4 years that they couldn't address in the last 15?
 
A 220 connection will charge these overnight.

In 15 to 20 years, we will no longer care about OPEC. Or anyone's Middle Eastern wars.

Little bit of physics
Conservation of energy dictates that energy is neither created nor destroyed.
In electronics, this energy is expressed in watts.
the relevant formula for this is I*E=P or Amps * Volts = Watts
If we compare 30 amps @ 110 volts, with 30 amps @ 220 we DO double the wattage, thus cutting the charge time in half.
This charge time was stated to be 96 hours on an unspecified system we are only assuming to be 110V.
How does four days turn into overnight?
Are Rodin coils employed in this system?
 
The plot thickens for Tesla! In order for Tesla to get Government Funding for charging stations, at least half of them will be required to have both CCS and NACS charging plugs…


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Now THERE is a realistic idea!
I read an interesting Road & Track article on this very subject the other day.
The problem is marketing. When people hear hybrid they think Prius, and frankly most are turned off by that thought.
So the article suggested marketing them as SELF-CHARGING EV's instead of hybrids.
However, rather than just a tiny engine, they need to have a relatively small, but efficient engine that is just powerful enough to push the car and charge the battery too, along with a battery that gives around 50-100 miles of range.
That way you can drive around town day in and day out on battery power, recharging at home overnight, but if you need to go father you can drive until the battery is drained, and switch to gas power to keep going AND recharge the battery.
Best of both worlds.
Still doesn't fully address the grid issues, but it is a good start.

McLaren P1 and Audi R28 were better implementations.
The Prius just shows us how much Toyota want's it to just go away.
Its not a universal solution. The strong point of Hybrid is it's ability to deal with variable speed driving environments, be it racing where you slow in the corners and hammer it in the straights, or urban stop and go.
Rural and freeway environments where speeds are maintained, it comes up as a loss as some energy is dissipated as heat in the conversion from the engines kinetic energy to electricity.
Standard guess has been an 11% conversion loss.
 
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