Question about cowboy movies

UncleEd

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OK, we all know the scene from "Blazing Saddles"
and how funny it was----beans, beans and more
beans.

Butr I ask, why are the cowboys in movies always
just eating beans whether on the drive or at the
ranch?

They're surrounded by beef! And in reality on the
drives some died or got so onery they had to be
disposed of.

However, in Glann Ford's film "Cowboys" he for
once asks for chickens when he arrives in Chicago.
He's tired of beef.

Oh, he didn't say anything about beans. But he
did dive into a setting of Jello-O.
 
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Beans are cheap and easy to "cook!" Charlie, or whatever the cook's name was, probably soaked them in a bucket of water all day then cooked them for the "boys!" After dinner, a new bunch o' beans got thrown in for tomorrow's meal! Maybe a jack rabbit got shot during the day by Corky, the cook's helper! A better question, or similar I should say, how many times did Matt Dillon get woke up first thing in the AM, threw his gun & hat on, and went and kicked some butt or jumped on his horse and went after Black Bart? First thing I do is at least empty my bladder! The cowboys on the drive, eating beans all the time, dig a hole & go poop 1st thing. Fight off the "Injuns" after you go poopy! (I used that term in quotes as that was what they called them; nothing derogatory.) And why were the streets "road apple" free all the time? Them folks had to smell pretty ripe, too! Oh, wait...these were just movies and not real life!! Darn it! How 'bout some coffee, Doc?
 
From my decades of living around real cow hands, they were just like anyone else in any other profession. Each profession had its particular challenges. Refrigeration was not available so most foods in remote camp jobs and assuming on trail drives were dried foods. Most cow hands were not allowed to carry guns as a gunshot would spook and stampede the wild cattle they were herding. Most all the cows brought up from Texas were wild born and spooky as hell. I would assume that the cows and bulls that died along the way were food for the hands but would spoil fast.
 
Bean were the staple food of the frontier, not just cowboys. High in Iron, fiber and with cornbread, a balanced protein! Also they were affordable!

A cow that died was always questionable, and one big mess to slaughter, no time to dry or jerk on the trail, and after a few days in the summer, rancid. Salt pork was the normal trail meat when you had a chuckwagon.

Beans were normally soaked for 16-20 hours for fast (3 hour) cooking, and the salt pork was most often soaked with them the last cleaning. Soaling and changing the water every few hours removed the chemical that caused gas. In areas with very limited water, beans weren't rinsed, hence the scene in Blazing Saddles!

Ivan
 
Beans are cheap and easy to "cook!" Charlie, or whatever the cook's name was, probably soaked them in a bucket of water all day then cooked them for the "boys!" After dinner, a new bunch o' beans got thrown in for tomorrow's meal! Maybe a jack rabbit got shot during the day by Corky, the cook's helper! A better question, or similar I should say, how many times did Matt Dillon get woke up first thing in the AM, threw his gun & hat on, and went and kicked some butt or jumped on his horse and went after Black Bart? First thing I do is at least empty my bladder! The cowboys on the drive, eating beans all the time, dig a hole & go poop 1st thing. Fight off the "Injuns" after you go poopy! (I used that term in quotes as that was what they called them; nothing derogatory.) And why were the streets "road apple" free all the time? Them folks had to smell pretty ripe, too! Oh, wait...these were just movies and not real life!! Darn it! How 'bout some coffee, Doc?

Of all the issues I have with Western movies is not the 100-round revolver. It is when you see the character ride up with empty flat saddle bags yet next scene there is a 50-cup coffee pot hanging over the fire from metal cooking irons, yet in the morning as he rides away the saddlebags are empty and flat again. Second issue is when someone dies a shovel that was not in any scene before shows up to dig the grave and is not on any horse when they ride away.
 
...Refrigeration was not available so most foods in remote camp jobs and assuming on trail drives were dried foods...

Beans were the staple food of the frontier, not just cowboys. High in Iron, fiber and with cornbread, a balanced protein! Also they were affordable!
The two primary considerations - they were a good nutritious food that was easily stored and preserved for long periods of time.

Down on the farm, on my grandma's table, a pot of pinto beans with a few chunks of pork (for seasoning and flavor) was always a staple. No doubt a hold over from the old days, but they were also what my grandpa liked and expected. And a pan of cornbread to go with them too!
 
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Bean were the staple food of the frontier, not just cowboys. High in Iron, fiber and with cornbread, a balanced protein! Also they were affordable!

A cow that died was always questionable, and one big mess to slaughter, no time to dry or jerk on the trail, and after a few days in the summer, rancid. Salt pork was the normal trail meat when you had a chuckwagon.

Beans were normally soaked for 16-20 hours for fast (3 hour) cooking, and the salt pork was most often soaked with them the last cleaning. Soaling and changing the water every few hours removed the chemical that caused gas. In areas with very limited water, beans weren't rinsed, hence the scene in Blazing Saddles!

Ivan
Beans and cornbread!!!!!! Your making me hungry
 
So if you put down an injured cow out in the middle of nowhere-
Now you got a bunch of beef in the heat and flies.
You can't eat it fast enough before it spoils!
I knew Guys down in S Texas who had Ice Houses lined up for hanging Deer.
They would take the Deer to town immediately after field dressing.
 
So if you put down an injured cow out in the middle of nowhere-
Now you got a bunch of beef in the heat and flies.
You can't eat it fast enough before it spoils!
I knew Guys down in S Texas who had Ice Houses lined up for hanging Deer.
They would take the Deer to town immediately after field dressing.

One good reason deer season is in the Fall.
Even better if snow is in the area !!
 
Beans were one of several foods dried and preserved to allow storage. Dried beef, dried fruits (apples, apricots, prunes, raisins, others), salted fish, salt pork, rice (major crop in south Texas where many of the cattle drives originated), flour (biscuits, pancakes, pan bread) all provided foods that were capable of lasting several weeks or months and easily converted to table fare under primitive conditions. Canned goods, particularly tomatoes and fruits, were becoming fairly common during that era, and probably added to the options.

A steer found dead was likely left alone due to contamination concerns. An injured steer could be destroyed and meat sufficient for a couple of days could be taken for fresh food.

Not unusual to have several pigs travelling with the camp. Pigs will forage for themselves under most any conditions, and are good at killing rattlesnakes around the camp. A good-sized hog could be slaughtered and butchered for a few days of sustenance.

Prior to the 1890s north Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming all had good populations of game. Buffalo, elk, deer, antelope, turkeys, rabbits, prairie chickens, grouse, and others likely added to the dietary needs.

Native flora along the way could contribute various fruits, berries, and tubers. Most people of that era were much more accustomed to foraging for food, knew where to look and what could be used at varying times of the year.

With limited local commerce and minimal transportation service local populations (native and settlers) probably welcomed opportunities to swap their produce for a beef critter ready to be fattened up for use.

Many of the drovers being from Texas with large percentages of Mexican vaqueros and free blacks, meal planning likely included several other necessities such as dried peppers, onions, and others.

Many of the earliest cattle drives were organized as cooperative enterprises in Texas settlements. After the Civil War commerce was practically nonexistent in Reconstruction Texas, cash was practically unknown, but free-ranging cattle were all but free for the work of rounding them up. Markets existed in the Colorado gold camps, and the major packing houses in and around Chicago had buyers stationed at railway hubs (largely eastern and central Kansas). Communities might organize a drive working on shares, or several ranchers might recruit drovers on promises of wages due upon the expected sale at trail's end.

Those recruited consisted of discharged Civil War soldiers, free blacks, and more than a few teenaged orphans and runaways. Skilled hands were largely Mexican vaqueros with a great deal of experience handling cattle.
 
TMI on bodily functions.

I always thought the Henry Weinhard's chuck wagon beer commercial was the best.

Followed closely by the Pace Picante Salsa commercials ("...git a rope..")

There are times when historical facts need to be leavened by a little creativity.

Note: Our home is in the west, and is decorated western because we both grew up with, and love, westerns, despite living in cities until we retired. Most of our decor is based on western films.

A bit of mythology can add to a tale.

From 'The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence': "This the west sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.'
 
In commenting about putting down a
critter because it was onery or dying,
I didn't mean the cowboys tried to
preserve the meat. They ate what
was fresh off the animal.

The animals when they ended up at the
great packing houses in Chicago weren't
necessarily preserved in well-iced
environs.
 
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