There have been over 100 fires in New York City from charging ebike batteries so far this year.
Cargo ship carrying almost 3,000 cars aflame off Dutch coast
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E Bike fires have also been in the news lately.
Edit - Above post beat me to the punch
Edit - Above post beat me to the punch
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Is your S&W collection kept in a safe secured by a battery-powered electronic lock?......Ben
S&G "Group 2", no batteries needed. And my "Most hated" R&R song is "Smoke on the Water." Didn't used to hate it but tune into most any "Classic R&R" FM station, anytime and if'n it ain't playing it's next. Joe
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And not just in NY. From what I've read, many e-bike fires are attributed to either cheap batteries and/or chargers w/o proper certification.
But some stupid with an electric car burned the ship to the keel.
Smoke on the water, a fire in the hold...
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rickyt
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I use the modern battery's .......Lipo's (lithium polymer) batteries in my drones. They can be very dangerous if punctured, shorted , dropped, over charged. I've seen photo's of fire's caused by these things igniting while charging.They have to treat with great caution.
Battery chemistries are evolving; not necessarily for the better. There's a huge push toward higher energy densities and in turn less size/weight. The downside is increased risk. I dealt with many battery chemistries in aerospace. The poster child is Lithium Ion batteries. They aren't all the same. Cobalt chemistries fail spectacularly. Iron Phosphate is much more benign, but at lower energy density. Evolving, yes. Still immature, yes. In my garage? No way!
I get an insurance discount for the burglar and fire alarms in my house. I have to wonder when insurance companies will increase rates for houses with EVs or solar panels charging Li Ion batteries.
I have witnessed electric equipment used in under ground mining
blowing up and starting fires. It is not something you would want in
Your garage or neighborhood.
blowing up and starting fires. It is not something you would want in
Your garage or neighborhood.
DWalt
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Not directly fire-related, but I read something recently that the charging cables for home EV charging systems are becoming common targets for thieves. Something was said that a single charging cable will cost about $1000 to replace. Another reason to avoid EVs. I suppose the only way to avoid that theft is to keep everything in the garage and charge only in your garage - if you have one. Or charge only in public charging stations.
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There was a homesteader/rancher in the Boulder county foothills around 1870s or so. He built his own electrical system for his house and outbuildings,imported highland cattle to cope with the colder climate in the mountains and had some of the earliest gasoline powered equipment. He stored his gas in a separate building waaay back from the other buildings. He was on to something lol
I saw an electric bus on fire somewhere in Europe. And they keep pushing them on us. George Westinghouse would be proud!
Tesla was the brains behind much of Westinghouse's success. Makes sense why Musk names is car company after Tesla. Besides, who would want to drive a Westinghouse or an Edison.
Be careful, there's gonna be some hot cars for sale.
Dave you think you like EV's now, you should read this! (I did today).
Tesla's secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints
It'll buff out
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I would not trust Musk as far as I could throw him.
fiasconva
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Latest news stories say that 489 of those cars are electric. Makes you wonder exactly what was the cause of the fires.
Possibly they might purchase a vowel or two!
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Good question. We probably won't know this for some time.
And if the fire spreads to the gasoline in the other vehicles, rather than "(Electric) Chariots of Fire", it'll be "Great Balls of Fire!"
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Interesting article on fire suppression for li-ion batteries
After initial knockdown, the remains of a burnt Tesla Model S received copious amounts of water for almost two hours. Note some of the more than 7,000 rechargeable battery cells on the street in the runoff from this fire.
With the cargo ship, water supply won't be a problem, but getting it onto the burning batteries might be.
After initial knockdown, the remains of a burnt Tesla Model S received copious amounts of water for almost two hours. Note some of the more than 7,000 rechargeable battery cells on the street in the runoff from this fire.
"...Copious amounts of water. Fire Protection ResearchFoundation burn tests revealed that battery reignitions are a real probability until the rechargeable cells are cooled sufficiently and the thermal runaway process is stopped. ...
...In one of the six full-scale li-ion battery test fires that the group carried out, researchers found that more than 2,600 gallons of water were required to extinguish the fire in an approximately 600-lb. li-ion battery..."
...In one of the six full-scale li-ion battery test fires that the group carried out, researchers found that more than 2,600 gallons of water were required to extinguish the fire in an approximately 600-lb. li-ion battery..."
With the cargo ship, water supply won't be a problem, but getting it onto the burning batteries might be.
