I wonder where this will take us in the name of road safety

[LVSteve]

Last year there was a monumental wreck involving a drugged up driver with a motoring rap sheet as long as your arm in multiple states. The results were the death of him, his passenger, and seven more people in a minivan. There are laser scan pictures in both the links.

The NTSB got involved, I have no idea how as Nevada is majorly twitchy about federal interference in local laws regarding drink driving and driving bans. The threat of no more federal money brought our BAC to fail a DUI test down to 0.08 about 20 years ago. You should have heard how hard the state and its major "industries" fought it. One of points brought out by the NTSB was why was this guy had a license. His record in NV is awful and he had at least two other DUIs in other states. Well, the report NTSB report is out, and it contains some heavy recommendations, particularly with regard to speed regulation. Game on. Just click on the Chevron Right to get to the news story.

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NTSB Calls for Technology to Reduce Speeding in All New Cars

 

[IAM Rand]

Nothing good will come from this. Big brother controlling your car. Everyone gets 30 mph and likes it.

 

[Hair Trigger]

Someone ought to invent a gizmo that sniffs for alcohol and is mounted inside the driver's side of the car and stays active when the key is in the switch. If it detects ANY alcohol at all, the car won't start.

If a dog can sniff out a gram of cocaine packed inside 100 pounds of coffee, technology should be able to match that sensitivity.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

Weed for fun just passed in Ohio. I fear for our safety after seeing what Kansas went through when Colorado legalized fun pot.

Ivan

 

[coltle6920]

Someone ought to invent a gizmo that sniffs for alcohol and is mounted inside the driver's side of the car and stays active when the key is in the switch. If it detects ANY alcohol at all, the car won't start.

If a dog can sniff out a gram of cocaine packed inside 100 pounds of coffee, technology should be able to match that sensitivity.

What if you are the designated driver and the detected alcohol is passed out in the back seat?

 

[Model 19 6"]

At one time some states had units that the driver had to breath into, before they could start the car.

 

[soFlaNative]

A quote from the article:
"Intelligent speed assistance technology, or ISA, uses a car’s GPS location compared with a database of posted speed limits and its onboard cameras to help ensure safe and legal speeds."
So may levels of wrong in that statement even disregarding the tech is overrideable.
Good luck regulating more "common sense" legislation.

 

[johngalt]

In related news, used car prices jump...

 

[jeffrefrig]

At one time some states had units that the driver had to breath into, before they could start the car.

We have that in PA. I only know because an acquaintance of mine couldn't get his car to start because the thing wasn't working half the time. I suppose he couldn't complain since he was at least able to drive after however many DUIs he had previously. He finally decided to start attending 12-Step meetings.
Also, one has to pay to "rent" the alcohol sensor car switch on device.

"If a dog can sniff out a gram of cocaine packed inside 100 pounds of coffee, technology should be able to match that sensitivity."
There's a semi-dirty joke in that sentence that's actually pretty funny; but not here.

 

[Telecaster]

More laws only means more lawbreakers. Laws almost never prevent crime or mayhem.

 

[dockmurgw]

Weed for fun just passed in Ohio. I fear for our safety after seeing what Kansas went through when Colorado legalized fun pot.

Ivan

Your fear is justified. Passed here a couple years ago, its been a disaster for road safety and a major source of social ills.

 

[johngalt]

The article needs a couple corrections:

Speed doesn't kill, it's the sudden stop that does.

9 people weren't killed in the accident. 8 people were. Plus the perp, who's death wasn't tragic.

 

[glenwolde]

I wondered when they were going to get around to using the speed limit data they have already integrated into gps mapping software. I watch it a lot while driving and it seems pretty accurate. When it's wrong it's usually too high.

They'll start low to stifle complaints, like allow up to 25% over the speed limit. Of course once cars are all driving themselves, they won't speed.

 

[ladder13]

Someone ought to invent a gizmo that sniffs for alcohol and is mounted inside the driver's side of the car and stays active when the key is in the switch. If it detects ANY alcohol at all, the car won't start.

………

And calls the local popo.

 

[Breakaway500]

An accident at 10mph can cause serious injury. Speed does multiply the potential for damage but the key is driver education or lack of it.

In this country...you can go out and buy the worlds fastest motorcycle..with NO money down...and drive it away on a permit that only required you to answer 8 out of 12 questions correctly. NO prior motorcycle experience necessary. Wow...nothing wrong with that,right??

 

[Bald1]

A quote from the article:
"Intelligent speed assistance technology, or ISA, uses a car’s GPS location compared with a database of posted speed limits and its onboard cameras to help ensure safe and legal speeds."
So may levels of wrong in that statement even disregarding the tech is overrideable.
Good luck regulating more "common sense" legislation.

I was a Teamster driver for 34 years before retiring in February this year. The last 10 years and especially the last 5 years of driving was brutal with the invasion of technology into my tractor. I had a camera pointed at road and one at me. There was GPS speed monitoring that frequently showed 45 or 55 mph on a road parallel to a 65 mph interstate. We had an over zealous jerk of a safety guy who once thought he had me for doing 70 in a 65. Our trucks were governed to 67. What he didn’t realize was I was in Pennsylvania where limit was 70. A lot of small towns in Pa also have stop signs except if you’re turning right. This idiot thought he caught me twice blowing a stop sign. All this technology is the reason commercial drivers are quitting. What you have now is new young and mostly foreign drivers who literally can not back up a truck. Technology is an invasion of privacy. I tolerated it because I was getting paid. I won’t tolerate it in my personal vehicle

 

[dockmurgw]

What you have now is new young and mostly foreign drivers who literally can not back up a truck.

Or read, write and speak English. We have a mountain road here that's called the notch. Mountain road, switchbacks, not passable for trucks. But in spite of the warning signage and confiscatory fines, a TT unit gets stuck monthly while the road is open during the summer months. A recent one needed an interpreter, he said he couldn't read all the warning signs.

 

[CH4]

Last year there was a monumental wreck involving a drugged up driver with a motoring rap sheet as long as your arm in multiple states. The results were the death of him, his passenger, and seven more people in a minivan. There are laser scan pictures in both the links.

The NTSB got involved, I have no idea how as Nevada is majorly twitchy about federal interference in local laws regarding drink driving and driving bans. The threat of no more federal money brought our BAC to fail a DUI test down to 0.08 about 20 years ago. You should have heard how hard the state and its major "industries" fought it. One of points brought out by the NTSB was why was this guy had a license. His record in NV is awful and he had at least two other DUIs in other states. Well, the report NTSB report is out, and it contains some heavy recommendations, particularly with regard to speed regulation. Game on. Just click on the Chevron Right to get to the news story.

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NTSB Calls for Technology to Reduce Speeding in All New Cars

Its not the drunk, it's the car! I say ban all cars with a fuel tank larger than 5 gallons; nobody needs to drive faster than 55mph. .

 

[NYlakesider]

Or read, write and speak English. We have a mountain road here that's called the notch. Mountain road, switchbacks, not passable for trucks. But in spite of the warning signage and confiscatory fines, a TT unit gets stuck monthly while the road is open during the summer months. A recent one needed an interpreter, he said he couldn't read all the warning signs.

I do not live that far away from a well hit bridge in Glenville NY. What you said appears to be the biggest reason it gets hit so much. Those sad excuses for a truck driver, English is not their first or perhaps not even their second language. There are more than enough signs and warnings present that Stevie Wonder could tell a low bridge is ahead and to turn around.

Then the so called driver gets out of his now wrecked truck dressed in sweats and flip flops muttering in some unintelligible language what the hell happened. In the mean time the road is closed in both directions for hours and hundreds of drivers are forced to find alternate routs!

 

[gjgalligan]

An accident at 10mph can cause serious injury. Speed does multiply the potential for damage but the key is driver education or lack of it.

In this country...you can go out and buy the worlds fastest motorcycle..with NO money down...and drive it away on a permit that only required you to answer 8 out of 12 questions correctly. NO prior motorcycle experience necessary. Wow...nothing wrong with that,right??

In many states a MC safety training course is required to get a permit to LEGALLY OPERATE a mc.