Yet Another Disappointing 432UC ** UPDATE-See Post #29

[Malysh]

That gap is a feature, not a defect.

Since this is an Ultimate Carry, any dust bunnies (from carrying in your pocket) or unburnt powder (from super-hot buffalo-bore-style defensive loadings) - that get between the yoke and the frame cannot prevent the cylinder from closing on your speed reload.

Your finely-fitted by master-craftsman pre-MIM revolvers will get you killed on the street! You NEED this Ultimate revolver!



PS. Just got a job writing copy for the top shilling gun videos and articles

I'm glad I re-read your post before I replied.
You can imagine what I was going to say!

 

[shawn mccarver]

Shame on Lipsey's too. They should have caught this defect and never sent it out.

Do you think the distributors open boxes and inspect? When the distributors receive a shipment of hundreds of guns, the receiving department merely scans the bar code on the box which enters the serial number into their computer records. The boxes are scanned again when they are shipped out so the computerized acquisition and disposition records show the gun no longer in inventory. There are no gunsmiths inspecting the guns for defects.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Maybe Lipseys can start inspecting the ones they have in stock prior to shipping due to these recent issues - but as noted they would have to be made aware of the issues.

Uh, no. They are not gunsmiths. They do not know what to look for. And, how far should the inspection go? Calipers and feeler gauges, or just a quick visual? Absolutely unworkable with the volume the distributors are handling.

 

[shawn mccarver]

For those who receive a UC gun with the front sight dead, the problem is easily solved! I have a high intensity LED flashlight that I held on the front sight for about 3 minutes and the sight no glows like it should!
jcelect

I have never heard of tritium being "revived" in the manner you just described. The Lipsey's UC guns have tritium front sights, not phosphorescent front sights, correct?

 

[mckenney99]

I believe those front sights have a large phosphorescent paint dot with a smaller Tritium ampule in the center. So if the center does not glow in the dark on its own, then the ampule was damaged on installation or the ampule had a defective seal.

 

[dman7]

picked up mine today 632, same damn gap, didn't see it it at store, looked at sight in the stores bathroom, all was good

was concentrating on shroud, and how it closed as well as sight

now what, no one can do anything right today!

 

[CajunBass]

I saw one in the used case at my LGS the other day. Clerk told me it had belonged to a manager there who wasn't happy with something about it (He told me what but I forgot). I gave it a quick look over, and didn't see anything that jumped out at me, but I decided to pass. If it hit the used case that quickly I figure there was something I missed. Plus it was a 38. If I get one it will be a 32.

 

[jcelect]

I have never heard of tritium being "revived" in the manner you just described. The Lipsey's UC guns have tritium front sights, not phosphorescent front sights, correct?

Sorry, I can't explain how or why, but the flashlight worked on my 632UC!
jcelect

 

[Mercury]

Resolution: S&W's Customer Service Did the Right Thing

After sending in my unfired 432UC because of the large frame-yoke gap and the cylinder not opening or closing smoothly, they replaced the frame.

Actually, they replaced the whole gun but told me that the frame was being replaced, nothing else was mentioned. Because it had a new serial number, it had to go through my FFL but they also reimbursed me for the transfer fee. I had to inquire about it and was told to send in a receipt and they then promptly sent me a check.

Here's a picture of the new gun's frame-yoke alignment....not perfect but just about as good as we can expect nowadays.

A surprise: The B/C gap is really nice, with a snug .006 on the frame side and a loose .005 on the yoke side of the forcing cone. That's fantastic considering that .012 is reported to be the new factory limit.

The trigger pull is smooth and averaged a little over 8 1/2 lbs and has seemed to improve with dry firing and limited live firing. (I have to find where I stashed the rest of my .32 ammo.)

I've also included a photo of a target of some of the first rounds. They were shot at 7yds with the factory VZ grips, which feel good in the hand but I had to concentrate to keep the rounds centered.
I changed them out with some combat grips and much prefer them to the VZ. I think that I will use standard stocks with a Tyler-T and carry it with those.

It's a shame that the original gun made it out of the factory in the first place but S&W's customer service made it easy to send it in and they replaced it in about a month, without any push back and on the first go around. I would say that they made it as smooth of an experience as possible.

 

[slabside2]

That should never had gotten past the assembler or the inspector. Heads should roll over such obviously poor quality control.

Assembler not gunsmith there’s your answer.

 

[seldon14]

Sorry, I can't explain how or why, but the flashlight worked on my 632UC!
jcelect

See this post from above. If it has no glow after being in complete darkness you have a bad/broken tritium insert. The light just charged the luminescent ring. This front sight is wonderful combo of features, but make sure yours is working to its full potential.

I believe those front sights have a large phosphorescent paint dot with a smaller Tritium ampule in the center. So if the center does not glow in the dark on its own, then the ampule was damaged on installation or the ampule had a defective seal.

 

[stansdds]

Assembler not gunsmith there’s your answer.

Although MIM and CNC machined parts produce very uniform parts, it still takes more skill to properly assemble a revolver than it does to assemble a striker fired pistol.

 

[ShotPlacement]

Reach out to Jason Cloessner at Lipsey's, [email protected]. He is the Senior VP and Product Development Manager.

I had a problem with the 642 UC I purchased. The night sight was dead and the barrel shroud was loose. I emailed Jason and he offered to expedite a shipping label back to S&W for repair or he could overnight a new 642 UC to my FFL. I opted for the new 642 UC which was at my FFL the next day. I took the original 642 UC back to my FFL so he could ship it back to Lipsey's and picked up the new one.

Jason bent over backwards to make it right and I'm sure he will help you out as well.

I just emailed Jason with my story. I'll report back after I hear from him.