Florida woman finds WW II message in a bottle in tropical storm Debby's wake

The properties were laid out in chains, rods, and links and self surveyed. The last kicker was the use of trees as boundary markers. Most of the tress are long gone.

Always amazed at that. I've seen the same here in the deep south. Some even reference the corner of buildings which are no more, stone fences, etc.

Most have been resolved by now as the land has been sold, chopped up, re-sold, etc. and corrective surveys and descriptions were ordered.

It can definitely be challenging.
 
Always amazed at that. I've seen the same here in the deep south. Some even reference the corner of buildings which are no more, stone fences, etc.

Most have been resolved by now as the land has been sold, chopped up, re-sold, etc. and corrective surveys and descriptions were ordered.

It can definitely be challenging.

When I bought my property up here in the 1980s It had a lot of older type words and descriptions in the deeds. Got to admit it made things a bit interesting. My favorites A Ford axle hammered half of the length of its shaft into the ground, and the big maple that was hit by lighting. :D

The property was well surveyed back in the 1930s when the reservoir by the heavy use of Eminent domain was constructed. Could find all of those important stakes with some careful looking

The way my property is laid out I have one line that more or less goes down the center of a stream. Depending on the time of the year the stream looks like a garden hose discharge to white water. My house is much higher than the stream so no flooding type problems.
 
I learned cursive in school and still use it although it has morphed into a combination print/cursive. I'm 3 years into some historical research on the deeds for approx. 50 Vermont lake properties from 1870-1905. The properties were originally part of 3 farms and the original land owners date back to 1762. So yes, lots of cursive. Some of it is very elegant - some not so much. The phrasing used back in those times also took getting used to. The properties were laid out in chains, rods, and links and self surveyed. The last kicker was the use of trees as boundary markers. Most of the tress are long gone.

I dealt with all of those old time descriptions for decades. It has been insinuated that I was a rod man for George Washington. :D
 
:eek: That's about 3pt type size, like what the crucial instructions on spray paints and such are printed at - whereas the safety warning phrases, which are far longer and more detailed/boriing, are in 8 pt. But I bet your handwritten lettering was crisper than the printed stuff. You must have been using a 3-0 Rapidograph pen.

Yes, I had a dedicated fine point pen that my boss bought special just for doing this work. I don't remember the brand. But I was lucky that I had a steady hand and putting 3 lines of characters in a space on a legal pad was not overly difficult. I made it a point to make this work very legible so that it would be usable for future generations.
 
I have ghastly handwriting. I was taught US cursive for 18 months then returned to the UK. Oh boy, a whole raft of features in US cursive did not fit with English 'joined up' writing. Consequently I had to change everything. As a result my writing was slow and resembled the scribblings of a monkey on bad drugs. I drove all my secondary school teachers nuts. 'I wanted seven pages on this, Boy!'. 'I had time to write three, Sir.' Go for orbit time.
 
I have ghastly handwriting. I was taught US cursive for 18 months then returned to the UK. Oh boy, a whole raft of features in US cursive did not fit with English 'joined up' writing. Consequently I had to change everything. As a result my writing was slow and resembled the scribblings of a monkey on bad drugs. I drove all my secondary school teachers nuts. 'I wanted seven pages on this, Boy!'. 'I had time to write three, Sir.' Go for orbit time.
We had The Maclean Method of Writing here.
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"...The technique demanded a sweeping, full-arm movement, proper paper placement and rhythmic writing movement. On their slates and, later, in their practice books, pupils wrote endless versions of the MacLean maxim, "Practice makes perfect." They also scribbled countless renditions of a sentence famous for including all 26 letters: "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog."

All the practice sheets were lined, of course, to keep wayward letters within bounds. Many years later I took up calligraphy, and I can still remember the maxim from the great English calligrapher, Edward Johnson (who devised the London Underground typeface, later released commercially as Gill Sans), "Lettering between lines is like dancing in a room your own height." :)
 
I use the Palmer method of cursive writing.

When I went to Catholic school that was taught. I spent more time after school and in spite of the nuns beating my hands with rulers and pointers I just could not pick it up.

I believe I was asked at least once by every nun if I was born a lefty and my parents were forcing me to use my right hand.
So glad when I went to public high school and got away from that.

To this day my handwriting is a mix of printing with a little flair to it.
 
Article here.
The Odessa, Fla., woman was in nearby Safety Harbor last week, cleaning up some of the plastic and debris that had washed up in the flood waters from tropical storm Debby, when she came across a glass bottle with a hand-written note inside...

She took the bottle home and opened it with her family. Inside, they found a bullet casing, a candy-sized iron ball and some sand.

"Half of the letter was faded, but some of it was very clear. And one thing that was clear was the date," she said.

...The letter, addressed simply to "Lee," and the letterhead indicated it was sent from the Amphibious Training Base in Little Creek, Va.

The base — more than 1,300 kilometres from where Flament-Smith found the bottle — is still operational today, under the name Joint Expeditionary Base Little Creek-Fort Story...

...It reads, in part: "Received your letter yesterday. Was glad to hear from you. So you got a little lit up the other day. Well, that is a everyday thing around here. They have a bar and they have pretty good beer."​

But this is what caught my eye:

Flament-Smith says she could only make out parts of the letter. (Her daughter, unfamiliar with cursive handwriting, couldn't read a word of it, she said.)

I am suddenly feeling old.

Why did you leave out one of the most important parts of the story - the date!!"
 
I may have mentioned this before, but my daughter is a high school English teacher. She asked her senior class to put their signature on a piece of paper and pass them to the front. Only one student had a cursive signature - the rest just printed their name.
 
Why did you leave out one of the most important parts of the story - the date!!"
As I replied to someone else above:

According to the article:
"Half of the letter was faded, but some of it was very clear. And one thing that was clear was the date," she said.

It was dated March 3, 1945 — the final year of the Second World War. The paper had a U.S. navy letterhead.

But I'll amend the brief précis I originally posted to include the date!
 
As I replied to someone else above:

According to the article:
"Half of the letter was faded, but some of it was very clear. And one thing that was clear was the date," she said.

It was dated March 3, 1945 — the final year of the Second World War. The paper had a U.S. navy letterhead.

But I'll amend the brief précis I originally posted to include the date!

What was the date ? JK couldn't resist.
 
I haven't used cursive since high school. Also, none of my time pieces have a clock face.

Yet, I muddled through.
I don't care if anyone uses it or not, but EVERYONE should be taught to read it!

The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence are written in cursive.
Would you like to read the originals for yourself, or let others interpret them for you? :eek:
 
Cursive is best done with a fountain pen, or a quill.
 
All this talk about cursive writing just reminded me about the style I was taught in elementary school.
It also offers up a neat explaination for why my hurried writing appears 'sloppy' or psychotic.
I think I am writing in muscle memory cursive with splotches of printed letters mixed in. Now I realize it!
Thanks OP!
P.S. I still have my elementary school Parker fountain pen with gols point!
 
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