Updated: Ross small of the back

I have a Ross holster, not S. O. B., but very well made in top grain saddle leather or horse? I can't confirm which, but very nice.
 
I have a Ross holster, not S. O. B., but very well made in top grain saddle leather or horse? I can't confirm which, but very nice.

This one appears well made. Suede lined, etc. I just don't have a pistol for it. It came from my father's estate but he didn't have a glock either. He must have just picked it up along the way.
 
444 Magnum, if you would like to part with that holster, as you don’t have a pistol to fit it, not to mention the flawed design is an accident waiting to happen to everyone who uses that type of holster, please message me.
 

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Sure, I'll take the work of a random guy on the internet over a million dollar company that would make more money selling you products that are 100% safe as you claim.

Are you seeing it yet?

Again every 10 minutes on the TV is a lawyer commercial about slip and falls, are you actually going to argue that a gun right there will prevent any damage to your body? If people are getting injured without guns there, how can a gun make it better?

Why do cops not carry items on their belts in that location, are they dumb as well?


Maybe you should do some research on Mr. Nichols while you are on the internet.

I also don't believe he said spinal injuries don't occur but said the chance of a holstered firearm causing one would be rare indeed.

I would trust a random guy on the internet (who happens to be a premiere holster designer) more than the lawyer who has to advertise on TV to find an ambulance to chase. No offense to the lawyers who are actually doing good work and not just chasing claims to get a settlement.

And as far as where cops carry their gear I carried my stuff in the front because that is where I would be working from. Wrestling around with someone while trying to reach behind your back to get your cuffs isn't as easy as it sounds. But having them right in front of you where your hands, and hopefully theirs are, sure made it easier to work with.
 
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Sorry but post 14 said "it is an old wives tale".

He did not say rare, although what he should have said was, absolutly nothing.

Honestly at this point I don't care who he is, if he doesn't stop he will be on the ignore list quick.

BTW: I took your suggestion and searched for "Red Nichol's" the results show page after page of a long dead musician.
If you search Galco or USCCA the results are right there on the first page, showing they are not a random guy on the internet.
 
Sorry but post 14 said "it is an old wives tale".

He did not say rare, although what he should have said was, absolutly nothing.

Honestly at this point I don't care who he is, if he doesn't stop he will be on the ignore list quick.

BTW: I took your suggestion and searched for "Red Nichol's" the results show page after page of a long dead musician.
If you search Galco or USCCA the results are right there on the first page, showing they are not a random guy on the internet.

One of the things I like about this forum is the breadth and depth of knowledge. Not everyone agrees, but most of us are gentlemenly about it.

You do not fall into that catagory. If you disagree, great; but you don't have to prove yourself to anybody on this forum. Kindly tone it down.

Personally, I have never fallen on my back or backside, but I don't live in an icy area either. Perhaps there are regional differences in carry. I choose to leave it at that.

Thanks, ColbyBruce, for the offer, but I'm going to hold onto it for now. I have a few pistols that are a close fit.

Question: If I wet or soak the holster, 1) will it shrink some when it dries 2) any chance I'll ruin it?
 
Well he did call you a noob. So there’s that.

Trouble maker! :D

When I was a younger man, that might have bothered me. I'm older now and I've learned to overlook certain things...to a point.

I will paraphrase Woodrow F. Call when I say that "I hate rude behavior, I won't tolerate it."

But seriously folks, "Can't we all just get along?" :D:D

Someone please respond to my query on soaking and tightening leather that's already been shaped.

Thanks.
 
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To form fit the holster, do not soak it, dampen it. Oil your firearm, place it in a plastic bag and insert that into the holster and allow it to air dry. You might use the rounded end of a wooden spoon to “bone” or form fit the holster.
 
This is a lined holster. Do I wet both the outside and inside or just the outside? I'm trying to shrink it just a bit to make it snug to my Beretta for retention.
 
Feel free to immerse the holster, but treat it like a Baptism not an intentional drowning. What model of Beretta are you trying to make it fit?
 
FWIW, I use a small of the back for a 3” and 5” 1911. They were made/sold through Dillon back in the day. I did not literally have them in the center of my back, but more like 4:30, 5:00. That extreme cant made them very easy to conceal. Also not a bad way to carry seated in a car. (Comfort, not access.). Never fell on it, also didn’t worry about it.
 
I have fallen on my pistol, not small of back but IWB at about 3:30. I was trout fishing and standing on a rock with a good slope to it. I check when I climbed onto it to make sure it was not slippery. after a couple of cast my feet left the rock and down I went landing square on my pistol. I can say it was something I am hoping doesn't happen again. I was carrying a SW shield first thought was I am glad I wasn't carrying a revolver.
so I guess one can say any position you carry can have its disadvantages.
If I was trying to modify a leather holster I would wet it slightly and put it in a plastic bag for a day check it to see if its getting soft if not wet some more and back in bag, repeat until getting soft. try not to over wet it. when it starts to get soft insert gun in plastic bag and insert into the holster. let it dry slowly no fan, no heat. bone as needed.
good luck!
 
The book “Blue Steel and Gunleather” by John Bianchi has instructions on this subject. My brother has my copy, I messaged him and asked him to photograph that part and send it to me. I will post it when I receive it.
 
What model of Beretta are you trying to make it fit?

It was slightly loose on my Browning BDA380 (Beretta 84). So this morning a tried it with my newly acquired Beretta 81. A very nice fit. Retention is good but not too tight.

This is an Italian made Beretta 81 from 2016. I don't think they imported many of these. It holds twelve rounds of .32 acp. I like full size frames in smaller calibers for reduced recoil. It's very comfortable to shoot and accurate.

Thanks for all the input...free holster put to use without buying another pistol. ;)

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This is my first time trying this style holster. I like it. Placement, of course, depends on the location of your belt buckles. With my wranglers, I'm carrying at 4:00-5:00 o'clock and I can't even tell it's there-sitting or standing.

Drawing from this angle is very easy and the slight upcant and proper retention prevent slipping.

Sorry for the fuzzy photo. This was hard to take in a mirror with my right arm raised and using my left hand. This is a RH holster...the image is reversed in the mirror.

Please disregard the big gut-no but man in the image. No suspenders as yet. ;):D

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444 Magnum, if you would like to part with that holster, as you don’t have a pistol to fit it, not to mention the flawed design is an accident waiting to happen to everyone who uses that type of holster, please message me.

Please be careful wearing that rig. One foot on a banana peel or an icy staircase and you will become a cripple for life.

Carefully crafted sarcasm or change of heart?
 
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