People who live in Hurricane areas?

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I live in Moore, OK which has been known as Tornado Alley and if there's a possibility of a Tornado, it's on every news channel and nearly everyone is talking about it and is aware of the danger. We have sirens that are absolutely brain scrambling LOUD and many people have above or below ground safe rooms or storm shelters. Just wondering about the nearly 100 people killed in the recent hurricane and am hearing most people drown in their house or cars and curious if its because they don't understand the level of danger or just ignore the warnings. It seems like with several days warning notice everyone would jump in their car and leave or get in tall building or something to reduce the risk?
 
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I would guess that a certain percentage of those poor folks who lost their lives either didn't have the financial means or transportation to evacuate the area. Some have no family to flee to (no where else to go) and can't afford to flee the area and stay in hotels/motels for an indefinite period of time.
There are also the procrastinators who put off leaving until it's too late, hoping that it will miss them or won't be as bad as predicted.
There are those that believe they can withstand anything and just won't abandon their property even at risk to their lives. "Last great act of defiance". These are the same folks that have to be forcibly removed as their house burns down around them.

I also live in a Tornado prone area and they are a different animal altogether. Tornadoes are a short term event which cause their own set of problems, where they just drop out of the sky. The effects from a tornado are short term unless your home or business just happens to be hit. Tornadoes also physically effect a very small area compared to the widespread destruction of a hurricane.
In other words, it's easier to hunker down or flee from a tornado than it is a hurricane which may cause complete destruction for hundreds or thousands of square miles.
 
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I think often times the winds and flooding turn out not to be as bad as predicted. So, many resist leaving their homes for days or a week, to travel a couple hundred miles or more to find a motel with rooms available, only to find they could have weathered it out.
And when it becomes very clear that the dire weather predictions are accurate this time it's too late to get out.
 
I have spent much of my life in the hurricane bullseyes.

Problem is the media often over hypes the danger. People evacuated and it’s a nothing burger.

There’s serious problems with leaving some areas. For example where I live there are inadequate facilities to accommodate a mass exodus. Past results were often thousands of people stranded in their cars without fuel, food or water.

Then there the issue of looting! And not being allowed to return home to secure your property.

It’s a very personal and specific circumstances decision.
 
Sometimes the last thing anyone can do is convince mountain people in TN and NC that a hurricane in Florida will drown them. It's just not conceivable in their minds. I imagine people in Noah's time thought the same thing. And then it began to rain.

On the flip side, the forecasters here in SE FL would convince you the end of the world was coming tomorrow. we had some wind and a few showers. They can cry "Wolf!" only so many times until they are ignored. It's called sensationalism, and they practice it daily. Viewer count is all important. As I type the late-night weather reporter is briefing on a possible hurricane that isn't going to hit the US at all, yet it's on the news . . . again.
 
I live in S. Ms. about 45 miles north of Gulfport. In recent years Mississippi has gotten an increase in tornadoes. We always have a risk of hurricanes. Wind is always a risk in these storms but water is usually what will kill you first, whether it is not getting out of a storm surge or driving or getting into high water when you shouldn't. I worked as a rookie LEO during Camille. That storm killed several hundred, many several states away from where the storm came ashore. In Pass Christian, Ms. there were 32 people at a hurricane party in a so called hurricane proof apartment. 31 of them drowned. We had four drownings in my area that could have been prevented had those folks stayed away from the water. No storm surge here but, plenty of flooding. Fast forward 36 years later and I was still a LEO and worked during Katrina. I helped to provide valuable info from my previous experience. A lot of the first responders were not born when Camille hit. I don't remember any deaths in our area during Katrina although there were several on the coast. For over a century (excluding nearby Purvis,Ms. in 1907 with over 100 killed) we had not had a major tornado in this area. My grandmother's little sister died in the Purvis storm. She was 22 and had just married a preacher about two months prior to that storm. In 2009 one roared right up the main drag in Hattiesburg. My son and I saw that one coming and were able to drive out of its path. About 60 injuries, no deaths. Another one hit in 2013. It demolished my grand mother's old house (she had long since passed away and no longer lived there) right before plowing through a trailer park and killing four people. In a few of these storms it just might be your time to go. In most of them a little common sense might have kept you on this side of the ground. I don't know a single area of this country that is immune to some kind of natural disaster. Planning and common sense is lacking in many of them.
 
You have to understand that nobody really forecast this event because NOTHING like this has hit the area in recorded history. In the mountains of North Carolina there are small towns literally wiped out by rivers that have never wet the streets since 1790. Even where I live in South Carolina, 100 miles away from the worst corridor of damage, nearly 1/4 of the county is still without electricity and many roads remain blocked by fallen trees, while the major rivers on either end of the county are above flood stage. Damage in some areas nearby is as bad as occurred during the direct hit by Hurricane Hugo many years ago.
 
Lots of people inland probably did not believe the storm would reach them in the way it did. I followed the NHC website closely, and things went down just as they said they would, but people were not listening.

Now, there are mutterings in the St Pete area that social media could have played apart with messages like 'It's never as bad as they say it will be.' The messages (if sent) were correct, Helene was worse. The storm running up the west coast on high tide really pushed up the storm surge numbers. So far Florida authorities have reported 9 drowned in areas under mandatory evacuation. Florida has only reported 11 deaths in total with none in the county that took the big hit, because people there DID heed the warnings.

However, what you must now look at is that most of the deaths were not in Florida, but in states well north of the coast. What people didn't heed in the warnings is that the forward speed of this storm would bring hurricane force winds much further inland than is the norm. It was moving at 25 mph when it hit the coast, probably twice 'normal' speed. Also, the hurricane force wind field at landfall was 120 miles across. That's big, and this windfield was still above hurricane strength probably 100 miles further inland than most expect. Remember, in most people's minds, hurricanes are a coastal thing.

The forward speed also brought a great deal more rain well inland in very a short time. Then the storm stopped. This led to a whole slew of places getting over a foot of rain in 48 hours. The Asheville area got something like 20", and hilly terrain, that only means flash floods, mudslides, undermining of highways (I-40 is toast), and waterlogged ground making it easy for the wind to tip over trees.

When those trees, mudslides, and floods hit homes and cars, you get the death toll we have.
 
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I-40 washed out near the NC/TN border, I-26 washed out north of Asheville, too many other highways closed to list. The NCDOT's notice is : "Wesetern NC is CLOSED".

Westerners particularly know the hazards of flash flooding in slot canyons; many mountain communities reside in narrow valleys with creeks that rarely leave their banks. In this case, walls of water came down within minutes and it is a wonder many more people didn't die.
 
The weather guessers are consistently over-estimating hurricane surface wind speeds. That doesn’t diminish the damage from the actual wind speeds, and rainfall is tough to predict. Flooding is hard to predict. Storm surge is easy, we know that will happen on the coast.
 
We are currently on a trip in our RV and were in Gatlinburg, TN last week, planning to move to the Asheville area over the weekend. With Helene bearing down, I was keeping a close eye on the forecasts, and with 8-12" of rain predicted for the area we decided to bug out. The area got pretty much exactly what was forecast, though the results were far worse than I could have imagined.

Talking to other folks in the RV park, most had no clue what was coming, but the word was starting to get around. By the time we were pulling out, others were packing up.

It's easy to be complacent if you don't have first hand experience, and many folks just don't pay much attention to the world around them in the first place.
 
We live near Buffalo,NY. When I tell people that, they cringe and say "How can you stand it there? It's so cold and the snow is horrible. I won;t even visit there."

Lot 's of reasons. We were born here. We like the area. Most of all....we can't afford to move.

To us, snow is a wonderful thing. It looks so pretty. Some times, they close the roads and you can't get to work. Perfect day to relax and maybe do some boolit casting. Weekend cross country skiing is a wonderful pastime. Also, although it may be a slight inconvenience at times, it doesn't make the house fall down.

Our prayers go out to all those affected.
 
I live in the Midwest. Yes,we do get Tornado's, but last one to hit us was 1945. But, everyone pays attention to the warnings. Yes, it gets hot in the summer, 90's for periods, but you live here you are used to it. Yes, it gets cold in the winter, occasionally 20 below, but seldom and not for long if it does. The Spring and the Fall great. We have 4 seasons.


Our cost of living isn't too bad,despite the high Real Estate taxes, but you can still buy a a 1500+ Sq Ft home (with a basement) in a nice area for the upper 2's and the lower 3's.
 
Some of the footage I have seen from Tennesse and
North Carolina is truly unbelievable.
The death count will without doubt go up.
Some bodies never found.

We live about 150 yards from the surf.
Follow the weather news closely during hurricane season.
If the threat comes close, we hook em.
Hole up at a hotel or our place 150 miles north of our beach
home.
 
I've been here almost 45 years. Every year "It's going to be the worst ever!"
Having experienced maybe a dozen bad storms (We had 43 killed in Osceola County in Feb 1997 from tornadoes mainly) it's really a crapshoot with Mother Nature. The coast (which is on every side except North) gets the worst and there's no telling where it will hit until 24 hours out. 2004 I sold my home a little ways out and moved into town. Charley hit and totalled that house, almost down to the slab. The house I bought lost 4 shingles. Power was out 4 hours in my subdivision(underground utilities), 2 weeks on the other side of the retaining wall (power poles). Joe
 
As for evacuating ahead of the storm -- to where? This disaster encompasses an area at least 100 miles wide and 300 miles long, with currently 2.1 million people STILL WITHOUT POWER -- never mind the total number of people in the region and how much more than that they have been affected. A tornado? Heck, I can drive 2 miles thataway and miss that...
 
You have to understand that nobody really forecast this event because NOTHING like this has hit the area in recorded history. In the mountains of North Carolina there are small towns literally wiped out by rivers that have never wet the streets since 1790. Even where I live in South Carolina, 100 miles away from the worst corridor of damage, nearly 1/4 of the county is still without electricity and many roads remain blocked by fallen trees, while the major rivers on either end of the county are above flood stage. Damage in some areas nearby is as bad as occurred during the direct hit by Hurricane Hugo many years ago.

Actually, the NHC did forecast this event. Either nobody got the memo or nobody wanted to believe it.

From Hurricane HELENE issued 0700 CDT Thursday, 26 September, 2024

Over portions of the Southeastern U.S. into the Southern Appalachians, Helene is expected to produce total rain accumulations of 6 to 12 inches with isolated totals around 18 inches. This rainfall will likely result in catastrophic and potentially life-threatening flash and urban flooding, along with significant river flooding. Numerous landslides are expected in steep terrain across the southern Appalachians.
 
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