Bottom Feeding Lawyers

[Delta Expatriate]

Many states have no accredited Vet medicine colleges. Most that do have only one. A few have two or three. Texas for a long time had only one - TAMU. More recently, Texas Tech started a Vet college, and that one was a long time in coming. Indeed, becoming a Vet, at least in the USA, is more difficult than any other medical-related discipline, certainly far more difficult than becoming a lawyer.

When I was at Mississippi State, I heard the Auburn Vet School would take 16 students from Mississippi. I knew a couple that made it, but I knew more that were accepted to Med School, and I heard it was harder to get into Vet School that Med School. I wasn't smart enough to get into either, so I went to the State-supported law school, and having little success practicing law, wound up working as a petroleum landman. I don't regret my legal education, but I would have been better off pursuing something else.

A few years later the State Legislature authorized a Vet School at Mississippi State and it is still operating - the only one in the State.

 

[Skeet 028]

Y'all can say or think what you want about lawyers.

When your a 17 year old senior in high school being charged as an adult looking at a possible 40 year sentence on 4 felony charges, and a lawyer finds a mistake in the search warrant which caused all charges to be dropped. You'd feel a bit different about lawyers.

That just means the people who made the mistake lost out because they still had the right criminal. Hope the 17 year old learned his lesson...most don't...they are all smarter than the cops you know. I know I learned my lesson dealing with cops, I was 17 when a cop caught me driving one night after having a few beers. He locked my car on the side of the road...drove me home.I thought we were going to jail..Gave me the keys said that car better be there when I get off in the morning...and then said I can't do this again..I believed him. Yep I was still guilty

I was offered a full scholarship to law school by the company my father worked for...but I would have to work as a corporate lawyer for them 4 or 5 years. Yes it was a great opportunity. But I didn't want to be a suit...and turned it down...no I didn't make big bucks(like Caje)but I did live the life I knew I wanted...even if it was harder and lower paying...Hell I might have ended up being a politician...or maybe even a union boss....nah!

 

[wood714]

That just means the people who made the mistake lost out because they still had the right criminal. Hope the 17 year old learned his lesson...most don't...

That was 50 years ago, and the only run in I've had with cops since then have been 2 speeding tickets.

 

[S-W4EVER]

This is what really gets me about lawyers . A buddy had a son that wanted to go to school to be a vet . In his junior year he was taking classes at UCF . He was working for a vet that wrote him a letter that made him look like he walked on water . There's only so many vet schools around , not many at all . He finally went to school for animal husbandry .

Here's my thinking , it's harder to become a vet than a lawyer ? There's more law schools than Carter has little pills . Seems they'd want fewer lawyers and not hand out law degrees like crazy . I guess when you think about it , law schools rake in the money at the cost of people that think they'll become rich being lawyers .

It is my understanding that the Veterinary Schools regulate the number of students so they don't flood the market with Veterinarians, ensuring they can all earn a good living.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

The bottom has fallen out of the market for law school graduates, Valparaiso University in Indiana and Whittier College in California have closed their law schools, in 2011 only 39.8% of New York Law School's graduating class found jobs as lawyers-they sued the school, saying they were misled- graduates of some of the big league law schools who participated in pro-Hamas demonstrations had job offers at big league law firms rescinded. A few years ago one lawyer told me if you don't go to a top tier law school and graduate in the top 25% or have a job lined up with a family firm a law degree isn't worth it.

 

[Bugkiller99]

Lawyers are like Member of Congress. They are all bums.

Except YOUR lawyer and YOUR Congressman.

 

[DWalt]

It is my understanding that the Veterinary Schools regulate the number of students so they don't flood the market with Veterinarians, ensuring they can all earn a good living.

That is probably the case. It took a long time for Texas Tech to get a Vet Medicine program going because TAMU fought against it in the legislature so hard, essentially because it felt that another Vet school would flood the market with grads. TAMU eventually lost.

I have known a considerable number of people with law degrees who went into other fields of work because they could not make it as practicing attorneys. Most went into government jobs of some form.

 

[Imissedagain]

It is my understanding that the Veterinary Schools regulate the number of students so they don't flood the market with Veterinarians, ensuring they can all earn a good living.

Any empirical evidence, that brought you to that understanding?
Humans are male/female.
Lots more animals than just two.
More to learn as a Vet.
Have met Doctors that found Vet school, way over their head,
and they switched to humans.
Some became Shrinks, as less money to open an office.

The youngest lawyer in our family, also got his EE, so he could
do patent work.

 

[NYlakesider]

...from a personal viewpoint I'm glad for lawyers because they are the only folks that are more frequent targets of bad jokes than preachers...

You left out car salesman!-

 

[SteveA]

I'm a 3rd generation attorney practicing in the same rural area in Kansas as my father and grandfather. My brother is a vet. My boys declined to follow in Dad's footsteps, at least so far. One is a Wildland firefighter, the other is still trying to decide what to do. My nephew, son of the vet, is in his last year of law school. I wish he'd come down here to practice, but he has his eyes on a big city practice, and has a job waiting when he gets out. We are desperate for new lawyers in rural areas here in Kansas. The city in which I office has a population of about 30,000. The "newest" lawyer here in private practice, has been practicing 8 years. Smaller populated areas are much worse, with many counties having no attorneys practicing.

 

[BigBoy99]

Remember that 50% of the lawyers were in the lower half of their class. Win or lose, lawyers get paid.

 

[Iggy]

I taught apprehending and prosecuting the drunk driver to our Highway Patrol recruits and at state law enforcement academy.
I arrested a guy for DUI on my way home one night.
He got a lawyer and we went to court. His lawyer was just out of law school.
He started asking me questions that sounded pretty familiar.
Upon finishing about his fourth question, I asked him if he was on page 12 or 13 in the Defending The Drunk Driver Manual?
He looked at me and the Judge and said " No further questions" and sat down.
Guilty as charged.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

...from a personal viewpoint I'm glad for lawyers because they are the only folks that are more frequent targets of bad jokes than preachers...

Actually, there are basically only four lawyer jokes. All the rest are true stories.

 

[WR Moore]

Some of the best lawyer jokes I've heard came from lawyers. Some of which I won't repeat. OTOH, I've heard a couple of comments that I devoutly hoped were wise cracks.

G rated: What's black & brown and looks good on a lawyer? Doberman/Rottweiler.

I did take two life lessons out of a Constitutional Law class:

A lot of really important case law involves folks who you really don't want to know/meet.

Don't be a test case. Getting your name on an appellate decision involves great tribulation, expense and the risk of incarceration.

 

[zeke]

never get despoiled without a good one

 

[smithman 10]

My son the lawyer

Is an administrative law judge in California. Mighty proud of him.

I've pretty much stopped sending him lawyer jokes, he's heard 'em all.

At least I know who to ask when I need to borrow money!

 

[DWalt]

Remember that 50% of the lawyers were in the lower half of their class. Win or lose, lawyers get paid.

Much the same is true of Doctors.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

At least in Louisiana, law schools are great profit centers for the universities which is why Louisiana has four-count them-four law schools churning out lawyers by the bushel. These kids get out of school with six figure debt and EVERYONE wants to chase the big "Personal Injury" ring. Law s no longer a profession but merely a business where the client is viewed as a profit source. I've been practicing law for 40 years doing the "little stuff" like actually helping people with criminal, family and bankruptcy problems with an occasional personal injury case thrown in where I sometimes am lucky to keep from one of the big television firms when an "investigator" shows up with a check "for living expenses"
I thought it would be easier when I became a Judge but it is actually worse. All the Supreme Court wants is for your court to be "self sufficient"-in other words screw the equities of conduct-make sure the fines get paid so your court can exist. As far as guidance-ask them a question and the response of "Do what you think is best".
The legal system is broken. Period. The only reason I can think of in being a lawyer is to protect yourself and family from the legal system while you do something else more productive.

 

[DWalt]

Is an administrative law judge in California. Mighty proud of him.

I've pretty much stopped sending him lawyer jokes, he's heard 'em all.

At least I know who to ask when I need to borrow money!

I had a cousin who graduated law school. He practiced with a small local law firm for about four years and decided he did not like it. He decided to run for a county-level judgeship and won. He loved being a judge and remained one the rest of his life. He always carried a Beretta Brigadier 9mm under his robe. I don't think he ever needed it, but he practiced on the Sheriff's range fairly often.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

At least in Louisiana, law schools are great profit centers for the universities which is why Louisiana has four-count them-four law schools churning out lawyers by the bushel. These kids get out of school with six figure debt and EVERYONE wants to chase the big "Personal Injury" ring. Law s no longer a profession but merely a business where the client is viewed as a profit source. I've been practicing law for 40 years doing the "little stuff" like actually helping people with criminal, family and bankruptcy problems with an occasional personal injury case thrown in where I sometimes am lucky to keep from one of the big television firms when an "investigator" shows up with a check "for living expenses"
I thought it would be easier when I became a Judge but it is actually worse. All the Supreme Court wants is for your court to be "self sufficient"-in other words screw the equities of conduct-make sure the fines get paid so your court can exist. As far as guidance-ask them a question and the response of "Do what you think is best".
The legal system is broken. Period. The only reason I can think of in being a lawyer is to protect yourself and family from the legal system while you do something else more productive.

"been practicing for 40 years"........When ya gonna be a pro or jouneyman?