There's not a single new car I would buy at this point

[SLT223]

Anyone else sick of the over complexity of these things and their high price for the displeasure? Ever since the CAN/BUS system all these things are a nightmare. Now we got what, 8, 9 computers in a vehicle fed by how many sensors? Apparently, KIA has an issue where the back up camera can brick the whole car. No one seems to know how this crud works. I don't even want to see what a complete list of DTC's looks like today. I don't need or want a computer between me and my window regulator, seat motor, HVAC, etc. I can tolerate ONE of them for the motor tune, and MAYBE the transmission. That's it. Oh, and no push button shift. I'll take that mechanical linkage that never shorts out, thank you very much.

Man oh MAN am I glad I hung on to this thing. 156k on the clock, 31 years old next month, and EVERYTHING WORKS! EVERYTHING!!!!! U joints are $8, wheel cylinder $6, air filter $13, AC Delco plugs and wires $50, so and and so forth and I can do it all myself. The way things are going today, if I can't fix it myself I don't want it. 3rd party is just too unreliable and expensive. Oh yeah, and no more emissions testing on this rig because it's 25+ years old. Would love to find a clean 90's K2500 suburban locally, but that's not going to happen.

The one computer in this Blazer is an 8-bit processor with a PROM chip like the old Nintendo Entertainment System, and it never tells me what to do, unlike my 2019 Pilot. It's like engineers back then must have assumed people's cranial processor was accustomed to taking in data, making useful information out it, and then making appropriate decisions. The Pilot can almost do that as well as me but it likes to lock up the brakes when it approached a road plate....

By the way, my highschool ID card is still in the center console along with a best-of Jimi Hendrix cassette tape. I've been rocking this truck 28 years. Just hasn't been a daily driver the whole time due to a couple other more modern cars that helped me really appreciate the Blazer when they failed me. What loyal piece of equipment. Just loyal!

 

[JET4]

I have a 2011 and a 2018 Toyota 4Runner. Neither one has all that garbage on it. The 2020 Toyota 4runner's is when they started putting all that electronics stuff on them.I'll keep them till they die.

 

[mm93]

We own two older cars that are both low mileage for their age. A 2014 Subaru Legacy with 15,000 miles, and my 2006 Ford Fusion with 145,000 miles. Of course the Subaru is too low mileage to ever have issues yet, and doubt we'll ever wear it out since we're both in our 70's.
The Fusion has needed new front hubs, and a water pump in 19 years, and I'll drive it until it's ready to go to the junkyard.
I personally hate all the computer stuff even on these two cars, but it's far less than what cars in the last 5 years have gotten, so not as complicated.
My truck is a 1969 Suburban and has unknown mileage? It had 29,000 on the odometer when I bought it over a decade ago, and might have rolled over twice. But it's a great driving truck, and I wont ever sell it either. I get people asking me to sell it at least every couple weeks, but nobody has offered obscene amounts of cash, so it's staying here.
I have two 1930's cars also and only drive them in fair weather. A 1937 British Austin sedan, and a 1939 Chev coupe. Both I built and both updated with late model small block Chev 350 V8's. Easy to work on, and fun to drive also. The '39 I've taken on several long road trips as it also has an overdrive automatic trans that lets me cruise at 2100 rpm's at 70 mph, and still get 17-18 mpg on a pretty hot 430 HP 350 engine. Bu there's nothing on my 3 older vehicles I can't fix, and even if they broke alongside the road I can usually go get parts and fix them right there. I've had to a couple times and always thankful they were so easy to fix!

 

[VictorLouis]

Look at all the cars down in Cuba that they keep running with bailing wire and duct tape. You sure have a point about simplicity.

 

[Rule3]

But? Do you have a 27" Info screen with Apple carplay?

 

[Onomea]

While I like new cars just fine, I admire the longevity of your vehicle and your ownership of it, and understand your deep appreciation of it.

Keep on truckin'!

 

[Roofuss]

Bought my 2009 F-150 4WD new, and still have it today, 14+ years later. Never had a problem with it, and will keep it till its toast !

 

[moosedog]

Yep. The more features it's got, the more stuff will break, the more it will get recalled.

 

[Ματθιας]

New cars, everything is light wight and plastic. Even minor fender benders will total out a vehicle. Disposable. No, thanks.

if somebody gave me a new vehicle, I'd immediately flip it.

 

[Chuck24]

I love my 2018 Tundra, but I have to admit there are buttons on it that I’m not totally what they do, especially the towing related stuff since I don’t tow things. My niece couldn’t believe it when I showed her the manual for the sound system (don’t call em radios anymore) was 3 times larger than the entire manual for my first new car in 1975.

 

[Jon651]

I'll be honest, I bought a new Chevy pickup this year and of all of the vehicles I've ever purchased new and used this one gives me the most trepidation. Computers have been in vehicles since the 80s, but literally EVERYTHING in this truck has it's own brain. I read somewhere there are like 18 different processors in it, and frankly this is the only vehicle I've ever owned where I decided to get the extended warranty right out of the gate simply because of the sheer amount of electronics it has, and any out-of-warranty replacement costs will be frighteningly painful!

I can say a lot of good things about this truck as well - it's the most powerful, most comfortable, most civilized, and most capable truck I've ever owned - but it is orders of magnitude the most complex. And with all the cyber security and anti-hacking stuff they have incorporated into it means I'm pretty much stuck letting GM do all the work on it short of replacing basic wear items.

 

[Muddyboot]

I wish someone would go back to old Chevy W/T concept. A very basic truck at a decent price. Fancy is nice if you like it, but simple is better if you need it.

 

[jem102]

I bought a 2024 Telluride in June. It is a very nice vehicle; quite, smooth, comfortable interior, decent power and averages 22 MPG. However, I am leery to touch anything other than the radio button because every time I do it takes me a week to get the car back to where it was set. I am sure all these features are great but I don't understand the terminology as intended so it's useless to me and actually a burden. I have ask the dealer about turning most of this stuff off but they tell me a lot of can't be shut down and if I do it will cause other systems to not run correctly. Their answer is "just read your manual" which tells me they don't understand it either...

 

[Tom S.]

There are lots of new vehicles I would buy in a heartbeat if looking for a new one. Not only are they safer, handle better, are more efficient and more powerful, they offer more features. Plus, a $20 code reader and phone app will tell you what's wrong if you get a check engine light.

 

[Ματθιας]

Will a new car, fresh off the lot, last as long as my late 70s F150 or my late 90s CrownVic?

MOD Edit: This was meant to be in a separate post. My bad! I would bet on average, yes - or longer.

 

[Nightowl]

I traded my 2019 Armada for a new 2024 in August. It is all round a better vehicle and I really liked the 19. Yep, its got lots of new wrinkles and some I will never need or use, but it sure drives nice and has plenty of power. I expect this to be my last vehicle! I was waiting for the new 2025s until I heard about the new turbo v 6s and all the other gimmicks they are putting on, like the engine cut off at stop signs, etc. Not gonna happen!!

 

[DWalt]

Still driving a 2002 Ford Ranger. No plans to replace it ever.

 

[ladder13]

Leave them for me, thanks, the less you buy the better the deals. A new DD every4-5 years.

 

[SLT223]

Plus, a $20 code reader and phone app will tell you what's wrong if you get a check engine light.

Not even close.

 

[JMD999]

I think the turbos, hybrids are to increase milage #s for the mfrs vehicle lines. And we're told they are nice things for us.... until they break.
I would have to drive 50k a year to even consider the minor fuel savings.
Just my opinion