MY INFAMOUS WINCHESTER WANNABE MODEL 62A ROSSI RIFLE

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When my Dad was in his late 60's he all of a sudden wanted a Winchester M62A .22 LR "gallery" rifle. Being sort of frugal and because the rifle was no longer being produced by Winchester, he was not willing to pony up the cash to buy a good used Winchester 62A because of the prices. I offered to buy him a used Winchester for his Birthday or Christmas, but he would not hear of it. So..... he found out that Rossi was making a faithful reproduction of the 62A and bought one.

When I fist saw it, I had to admit it looked OK and had a descent fit, finish and bluing job, but the wooden walnut stock was relatively plain looking - certainly no Winchester! He brought it down to the range and I'd say he could only shoot 2 rounds without the rifle jamming and failing to feed a new round when cycled. Frustrated about his new rifle, he wrote a letter and sent it back to Rossi. About a week or two later a brand new rifle shows up because they reportedly could not fix it. The following week he brought it down to the range once again and it was only marginally better than the first one. He sends it off again with another letter and they send it back with letter of apology and said it had been fixed. NOPE - it was still malfunctioning and was no better than the last time. No matter how much lubrication was used and even though it has been thoroughly cleaned, it would constantly jam up on every second or third round. Ammunition type made no difference either.

At this point he challenged himself to fix it properly, come hell or high water! If anyone could fix this rifle it was him as he was incredibly talented - mechanically speaking. Every week he'd bring it down to the range and shoot it, make some notes and most weeks it would improve slightly - although sometimes going a bit backwards. This went on for a few years and I always teased him by saying PLEASE do NOT leave this one to me! It got to the point that when he uncased this rifle and shot it I pretty much ignored the whole deal because I just thought the rifle was unfixable and was too frustrating to watch. The regulars down at the range who knew him always had a good chuckle when he pulled it out of the case he hand made to fit the rifle that takes down with only a turn of a thumb screw.

My Dad died when he was 84 and since my brother is not into guns at all, he left his entire collection to me. After his death, I would take one of his guns to the range every week, shoot it, sight it in for me and make sure everything was in perfect working order. Most were, (I had to fix a few myself) but then the last gun for me to shoot was this Rossi model 62A - the devil of his collection - lol. I went to the outdoor range that week and set up a few targets at 75 feet. To my utter surprise...... the rifle functioned flawlessly! I had shot well over 100 rounds and could not believe my eyes. The following week I brought it again and shot 200 + rounds - again flawless! I could not believe he had actually fixed it and made it function perfectly smooth and without a hitch. He never said anything to me about fixing it and I was very curious as to what he did to fix it.

That night when I field stripped the rifle to clean it I inspected it closely and noticed he had taken a piece of 1/8" flat steel, perfectly thinned and shaped it, then braised it to the carrier or elevator (whatever the proper name of the part that lifts up the new cartridge to feed it into the chamber is). I could see only the faintest brass coloring where he braised the part and he did a professional job. Apparently the height to which the new cartridge was being lifted was too low - a design flaw that I guess Rossi never picked up on - shame on them!

From time to time I'd take the rifle out to shoot and over the last 17 years it has never jammed - not even once! It will feed any ammo and while not exactly a tack driver, it is still fairly accurate. Today I took it to the range as I had not shot it in at least 4 years now and it was time. Today's session was with 100 rounds of CCI Mini-mag's at 75 feet - outdoors with a heavy wind. The wind was heavy enough that our target carriers were being blown over frequently and we had to weight them down at the base. That said, these are my best two targets of the day at 75 feet, off-hand with the original inexpensively made iron sights. Certainly not great, but respectable for this rifle considering its life's history. While driving out to the range today I told everyone in the car (3 fellow shooter's) the story and let them shoot a magazine full - they all liked it.

I wish it were a real Winchester but then I would probably not have taken the time or felt the need to ever post this story - lol. I was going to take a picture of it but of course we had some people over for diner and I wanted to put it to bed in the safe quickly and I forgot to do so. Next time I shoot it I shall, but the Rossi 62A is basically a Plain Jane copy of the famous Winchester 62A without the gorgeous Winchester bluing, wood and finish. While this rifle is certainly not a beauty contest winner or tack driver, it does have a pretty interesting past and I wanted to post the story here. Hopefully, Rossi has improved their QC as well - if they still produce it. Thanks for reading!

ADDED: SEE POST #4 BELOW FOR PICTURE OF A 62A.
 

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Above is a picture of the Rossi 62A. Not mine, but the same exact rifle. I was too lazy to dig mine out of the back of the safe again and did want to post a picture for those here who do not know what it looks like. The Winchester 62A is the same rifle, but is much prettier with better wood, bluing and fit and finish.
 
Just for reference is my Winchester 62A from 1951. I do not know if it was fired or not. Was gifted to me, and has it's own display case.
Heard that Rossi's were a good recreation! Bob
 

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great story Chief and thanks for sharing, kodos for your Dad to not give up and making it a shooter.
Hope you have someone to pass it down to.
 
I had one of the Rossi 62 rifles come my way in a trade back in the 1980s, obviously used but good condition. That one proved to be very reliable and quite accurate. My only issue was the Rossi sights, simple blocky post front and stamped sheet metal elevator rear, not very precise. Rossi's barrel dovetails are oversized for standard US 3/8" sights, and present a challenge for improvement.

Eventually an original Winchester 62A from 1939-1940 in minty condition came my way from an estate. The Rossi went to a son's house and I think the grandkids have used it quite a bit.

About 5 years ago I thought the nice pre-WW2 Winchester 62A was becoming too valuable to be dragging around in the woods so I added a CZ-455 American .22LR for small game use. The 62A will probably be going to my older son's house soon, along with some advice about maintaining it as a vintage collectible.
 
I have both an original Winchester 62A as well as a Rossi gallery model. I bought the Winchester from my former father-in-law for $20.00 and the Rossi from a pawn shop for $75.00. Both work as intended.

When I had owned the Winchester about two years, I first fired it in a forested area in northern California. I managed to shoot a quarter inch (1/4) diameter twig from a pine tree twenty feet above me, and fifty feet away.

Llance
 
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I have four Winchester 62As. Two in .22 Short only and two in S,L&LR. I shoot them. They are collectable and fairly expensive these days but back when I was a teen in the early 50s I wanted one but couldn't afford it. They were meant to be used, not hidden in a gun safe. I looked at the Rossis many years ago but the quality didn't impress me so I passed. Had I bought one instead of a Winchester I would have never been satisfied. Quality seems to have been a bit inconsistent so it's good that some have good ones.
 
BTW, I was curious if Rossi was even still making the Model 62A anymore and apparently it has been discontinued since 1998 after Taurus purchased Rossi. They now make a "Gallery" model that took the 62A's place but looking at the pictures and reading a little, it appears to be a highly cheapened, cost cutting rifle not even in the same class. I won't even compare it to a vintage Winchester! IMHO - I'd stay away from their new production "Gallery" rifle!

I always believe in buying the original of whatever. My Rossi 62A was inherited, not purchased my me. Because of the fact that it was my Dad's and the long history of it, I will hang on to it but would opt for a real Winchester if I was to actually buy another one.
 
I currently have a Winchester 62A as well as the Rossi copy. Both function as intended, but the Winchester has nicer wood and better metal finish.

The current Rossi pump 22LR is a much cheaper design that nothing like the older Rossi. As far as the Rossi 92, some work great, but others not so well.
 
I have a Rossi 62A that I bought used 25 years ago. Great little rifle and has never missed a beat.
That thing and a set of spinners makes for a fun afternoon. :D
 
I have a Taurus Model 62 (made after they acquired Rossi) and it works like a champ. It's one of the ones that has a little safety lever built into the bolt, which is a Plus in my book. Steve's Gunz makes a peep sight that replaces the safety which greatly increases the sight radius, and for my older eyes makes for a much better sight picture than the original blade. I have several Rossi C92 copies of the Winchester 92 lever gun, that I have installed this peep on. Adjustable Bolt-Mounted Blue Peep Sight Safety Replacement [PS-01] - $66.95 : Steve's Gunz, Rossi 92 Specialist

Here's the 62 with it's "big brother", the Taurus C45 Thunderbolt in .45 Colt (a copy of the Colt Lightning). The Thunderbolt doesn't have the bolt mounted safety so I replaced its wretched buckhorn rear sight with a Marble peep, to which I added a smaller aperture.


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I'm always amused at folks who are dubious about Rossi rifles. When it comes to Model 62's and '92's, Rossi has made many times more of them, for a much longer time, than Winchester ever did.

They know how they're built..

Many times more Rossis than Winchester 62s and for a much linger time? No not hardly. The Winchester exposed hammer pump rifles started with the model 1890, followed by the 1906, and then the 62 in 1932 I think. The 1890 lasted until around 1932 and the 62 followed by the 62A was produced until 1959. The design was basically the same with all models and was actually designed by good old JMB, not Winchester.
 
If you can find a copy of Ned Schwing’s book, “Winchester Slide Action Rifles, Vols I and II,” reading it is like drinking from a fire hose. Anything and everything there is to know about those rifles is to be found there. Problem is that the book is out of print (unless it has been reprinted by now) and finding a copy may be difficult. Nothing about the Taurus and Rossi copies is included in it.
 
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If you can find a copy of Ned Schwing’s book, “Winchester Slide Action Rifles, Vols I and II,” reading it is like drinking from a fire hose. Anything and everything there is to know about those rifles is to be found there. Problem is that the book is out of print (unless it has been reprinted by now) and finding a copy may be difficult. Nothing about the Taurus and Rossi copies is included in it.
For *only* ~ $150 and up, there are copies to be had here in hardback and trade softback:
 
Many years ago, my uncle, who was getting on in years, gave my father his Winchester 62A. His eyes were bad, so he couldn't hunt bunnies no more, and him and his wife, Dad's sister, were showing signs of cognitive decline and other health problems. My father accepted the rifle and placed it in the gun safe, where he left it. I think it was a case of hating how he got it and not wanting to be reminded of it.
A few years go by and I'm taking a few friends out shooting. I wanted a few .22LRs for them to shoot and have fun with. I didn't even take a centerfire gun. Well. one thing led to another, and they challenged me to "show then how it's done". I picked up that little pump and started shooting fir cones off the trees, working my way farther out until I was cutting cones at 125-150 yards with ease. I think I missed about 2 shots out of a box of 50, and those were operator error. That gun can shoot.
Obviously, I wanted the gun, but I wasn't going to ask my father for it. I could always borrow it whenever I wanted, so actual ownership I left to him, but the itch remained. I mean the first gun I ever shot was a Remington pump .22, so I was fond of the little pumps from the get-go. Even back then they were commanding more money than I had to spend. So, at a gun show, I bought a Rossi that needed fixed. It was cheap, and I figured I'd fix it up. When my dad saw what I'd bought, he asked me why. I told him that I wanted a pump like the Winchester. He got up from the table, got the gun, and handed it to me saying, "It's yours. Take care of it and never sell it." I still have it of course.
The Rossi, well I let it sit for a year or so, before I tackled fixing it. I got it working although it still needed some work. It wasn"t even close to the Winchester in accuracy, function and fit and finish. About that time, a buddy got me a good job working at his place of employment. He had made statements about wanting a Winchester to replace the one that was stolen from him a few years earlier. Well, I wasn't going to give him the Winchester, but I did give him the Rossi as a thank you for getting me hired on. He had it for 2 months before he finally bit the bullet and spent for a Winchester. He gave the Rossi to one of his nephews, I think.
 
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