Owners of the new no-locks

[gnappi]

When they come out in calibers / models I'm interested in, I'll be a S&W buyer again. Until then it's only pre-lock guns for me, and I'll pay more for them.

 

[Wfevans4]

Yes. I have the new Model 36-11 and like it very much. It looks sharp. Shoots like a laser beam. So pleased that Smith & Wesson ditched the lock. I have ordered every other new lockless gun. Waiting on a 10, 19, both Mountain Guns, and the titanium UC. There's a lot to like here.

I think it would be cool if Smith & Wesson revived some of the old boxes. A vintage looking box would compliment the gun.

Do the new revolvers say Springfield, MA or Maryville, TN on the side?

 

[daveyc]

My point was that you can still find pencil barrel 10s in 95-98% condition with full box and papers in the $400-500 range and they are quite readily available. I picked one up not too long ago for $500 but it was likely NOS. Why would I spend double that for a new one?

one reason is that if that NOS revolver breaks/needs repair/parts, it is highly unlikely that Smith will be able to repair. they no longer have hammers or forged parts to work with the older guns. warranty work would be very valuable to some owners.

 

[Tinkertech]

I always hated the 'locks'.

But in the overall scheme of things does it really matter?

Never heard of one locking up a gun unless the lock was actually broken but a lot of others issues sure will lock these revolvers up.

 

[Doug M.]

Some folks resist them for political reasons; understandable. I resist them because it is a useless failure point. If I were not dedicated to some other uses for my money that must be a high priority, I would consider the 686+ MG. If S&W can be supported for making no lock models, we should.

 

[BluedRevolver]

While I can understand avoiding them for political reasons, my issue with the lock is the potential of it failing. While it seems to be very, very rare, I have learned of enough credible reports of the lock engaging un-commanded to not trust them.

As detailed in this thread, I am an early adopter of the new no-lock Smiths with my Model 19-10 Classic. So far I seem to have gotten a good one, and I hope that continues. If it does, I will certainly support Smith by buying one or both of the new no-lock Mountain Guns after they become available.

 

[SeppW]

Recently picked up the Model 19-10 Classic No Lock. It indeed has the shrouded barrel; I assume the semi-target hammer and combat trigger. The chamber end of barrel *is not* notched for cyl crane clearance. Nicely done polish finish. The only thing out of whack is my revolver is fitted with square butt target grip and not a round butt conversion target. Waiting to see of S&W will send the correct grips because I can't get around the glaring gap. Yes, I f'd up during inspection.

 

[Invictus357]

Recently picked up the Model 19-10 Classic No Lock. It indeed has the shrouded barrel; I assume the semi-target hammer and combat trigger. The chamber end of barrel *is not* notched for cyl crane clearance. Nicely done polish finish. The only thing out of whack is my revolver is fitted with square butt target grip and not a round butt conversion target. Waiting to see of S&W will send the correct grips because I can't get around the glaring gap. Yes, I f'd up during inspection.

Did you contact SW about the wrong grips?
Altamont makes them. Perhaps you could call them too and ask if they'll swap you for the right ones.

 

[Beju]

I always hated the 'locks'.

But in the overall scheme of things does it really matter?

Never heard of one locking up a gun unless the lock was actually broken but a lot of others issues sure will lock these revolvers up.

I've mainly heard about recoil induced issues in scandium J-frames and the big X-frames.

Self-engagement/breaking in the median steel J/K/L/N frames seems exceedingly rare, but it is still a theoretical failure point.

The only thing out of whack is my revolver is fitted with square butt target grip and not a round butt conversion target. Waiting to see of S&W will send the correct grips because I can't get around the glaring gap. Yes, I f'd up during inspection.

I don't think you effed up.

I have a 625 JM that came with a wooden grip, and it's got the same gap that's apparent in the pictures of the Model 19 Classic No Lock that are on S&W's website.

Maybe someone with non-OEM packaged Altamont grips can say for sure, but that might just be how they do it. It wouldn't surprise me if they do it without a super precise fit because S&W frame dimensions haven't been perfectly consistent over the years, particularly when comparing pre-MIM frames to older round butts. The gap probably negates the potential need for fitting.

 

[Wfevans4]

I've mainly heard about recoil induced issues in scandium J-frames and the big X-frames.

Self-engagement/breaking in the median steel J/K/L/N frames seems exceedingly rare, but it is still a theoretical failure point.


I don't think you effed up.

I have a 625 JM that came with a wooden grip, and it's got the same gap that's apparent in the pictures of the Model 19 Classic No Lock that are on S&W's website.

Maybe someone with non-OEM packaged Altamont grips can say for sure, but that might just be how they do it. It wouldn't surprise me if they do it without a super precise fit because S&W frame dimensions haven't been perfectly consistent over the years, particularly when comparing pre-MIM frames to older round butts. The gap probably negates the potential need for fitting.

If you don't like the grips, get some Culina grips. That's the first thing I'm doing when I get my model 19. I think that little gap is supposed to be there. Go on Google and search "Smith and Wesson Model 19 Classic," then click on images and look around. It looks like that's just the way they are because it's a round butt frame.

 

[Beju]

I threw a grooveless Hogue rubber grip on my 625 for my smedium hands to better absorb recoil when I'm doing my very slow Jerry Miculek impression.

 

[SeppW]

Did you contact SW about the wrong grips?
Altamont makes them. Perhaps you could call them too and ask if they'll swap you for the right ones.

S&W CS asked for my address so assume they are going to send the correct grips

 

[SeppW]

If you don't like the grips, get some Culina grips. That's the first thing I'm doing when I get my model 19. I think that little gap is supposed to be there. Go on Google and search "Smith and Wesson Model 19 Classic," then click on images and look around. It looks like that's just the way they are because it's a round butt frame.

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I had assumed the 19-10 was a square butt frame as are my several early model 19s When I got home and taking a closer look I was hit with ***, a glaring gap. The target grips installed were definitely made for a square butt. Frankly, I would be leery shooting full power loads with that gap and the sharp edges of the grip. The round butt conversion targets fill the gap. Hopefully S&W send's the correct grips

 

[MSD2343]

If you don't like the grips, get some Culina grips. That's the first thing I'm doing when I get my model 19. I think that little gap is supposed to be there. Go on Google and search "Smith and Wesson Model 19 Classic," then click on images and look around. It looks like that's just the way they are because it's a round butt frame.

That's correct. They adapt the square butt grips to the round butt frame. Maybe not perfect but the idea is that an owner can have whichever type of grips that they prefer over the round butt frame.

 

[SWFan27]

Recently picked up the Model 19-10 Classic No Lock. It indeed has the shrouded barrel; I assume the semi-target hammer and combat trigger. The chamber end of barrel *is not* notched for cyl crane clearance. Nicely done polish finish. The only thing out of whack is my revolver is fitted with square butt target grip and not a round butt conversion target. Waiting to see of S&W will send the correct grips because I can't get around the glaring gap. Yes, I f'd up during inspection.

Did S&W send the correct grips to you? And how are you liking your 19-10?

 

[BoulderTroll]

Did S&W send the correct grips to you? And how are you liking your 19-10?

I'm amazed S&W still had a pair of square butt target grips to accidentally put on in the first place. How long has it been since they released a square butt revolver that came with target grips?! 20 years at least...or is it closer to 30?

 

[two-bit cowboy]

Or perhaps they're like me - someone that wants to support S&W's dropping of the lock in these new models.

You had me at this one.

They've fixed what we've been whining about for two and a half decades.

Good enough by me. I grabbed one for each hand (Model 36-11).

 

[SWFan27]

I'm amazed S&W still had a pair of square butt target grips to accidentally put on in the first place. How long has it been since they released a square butt revolver that came with target grips?! 20 years at least...or is it closer to 30?

It is almost like someone was bored on a Friday and did it as a joke. Looks good to me and hello weekend...

 

[sniper]

It's only money. Buy both!! I want the MG and the 19!!! MG has to have front sight changed to black ramp though!!

Decisions, Decisions! I have missed my Model 19 for Decades, and have wanted a 357 Mountain Gun since they were first introduced. I now have a Ruger Match Champion that I...like... but am considering selling or trading for one or the other Smiths. Life gets teedjus, don't it?

 

[sniper]

Recently picked up the Model 19-10 Classic No Lock. It indeed has the shrouded barrel; I assume the semi-target hammer and combat trigger. The chamber end of barrel *is not* notched for cyl crane clearance. Nicely done polish finish. The only thing out of whack is my revolver is fitted with square butt target grip and not a round butt conversion target. Waiting to see of S&W will send the correct grips because I can't get around the glaring gap. Yes, I f'd up during inspection.

My problem has always been I love the looks of the Smith Target grips, but, they are a bit large and unsecure feeling in my hands. But...I've never even come close to dropping one...yet!