Miss marked Freaks

[Jeep 1]

Here’s one of my entry in this category.
Post yours up!

This Classic Hunter model 629–2 6” 44 Magnum evidently was not looking for its full potential since the barrel is stamped “357 Magnum”
Tom

 

[toddimusnimski]

Hi Tom, that's a great thread starter! How did you come across that one? Did you discover the mis-mark?

Todd

 

[flundertaker]

pretty cool. you gotta wonder how this happens and when it does, how many are churned out. I dont know the process for barrel stamping and cutting. Is a long piece of barrel stamped every 4, 6, or 8.375" and then cut? or are they cut and then stamped? If the former you would think that there would be a bunch out there, especially with S&W QC or lack thereof as of late. Im a horrible judge of size, just ask my wife, but even I can tell a ~ .38" hole from a ~.44" hole.

 

[Jeep 1]

“Hi Tom, that's a great thread starter! How did you come across that one? Did you discover the mis-mark?

Todd”


No I did not discovered it myself, I bought it quite some time ago.
The original dealer back in 1990 sold it as a miss marked, I think it’s pretty cool to have the paper trail with it.

Sorry guys I haven’t figured out how to do the quote thing yet on my iPhone

 

[stansdds]

Here’s one of my entries into this category.
Post yours up!

This Classic Hunter model 629–2 6” 44 Magnum evidently was not looking for its full potential since the barrel is stamped “357 Magnum”
Tom

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That's quite the screw-up!

 

[Jeep 1]

That's quite the screw-up!

Come on guys let's see your screw ups! I know mine's not the only one.

 

[two-bit cowboy]

Not as flagrant as a .44 Magnum with a .357 barrel, but a fun one nonetheless.

Online seller listed this Chiefs Special (stamped MOD. 36) as a 1952 model. Uh, square butt? Not '52. Uh, 3" barrel? Not '52. Uh, contoured thumbpiece? Not '52. Uh, large hammer? Not '52. He said the serial number stamped inside the right stock matched the butt. Okay, I'll bite.







In actuality the stock's serial number had been six digits, but along the way somebody scratched out the first number. Since the stocks have diamonds around the escutcheons the first digit had to be either a 4 or a 5, and in that era Smith & Wesson still stamped the serial number on the inside of the extractor star. There it was: 520386.

It shipped on May 10, 1967.

 

[mreed911]

Here’s my 745 built on a 645 frame, but it’s got the 745 action. As close as I have to a mis-marked S&W.

 

[kscharlie]

While not originally "mis-marked", it ended up that way. Here is a Model of 1905, 1st Change, that was shipped in August of 1906. At that time, there was no address line on the frame. The 4-line address did not appear until after WW II. Yet this one has the 4-line address. Turns out that this gun was sent back to the factory for a re-finish in December of 1976. For whatever reason, some of the guns re-finished during this time frame received the 4-line address stamp. When Roy Jinks found out this was happening, he put an immediate stop to the practice.

At any rate, one does not see very many of these and when I saw it, I thought it would be an interesting addition to my accumulation.



The following comment was in a past thread discussing this practice:

Originally Posted by handejector
Added Rollmarks on Refinished Guns-
These are not common and you may never see one. I have observed maybe a half dozen in all my years.
It happened in the 1970s.
When a gun was refinished, it was disassembled by the Service Dept., including barrel removal. The Finishing Dept did not have the tools to do so. The rollmarks would have been added in the Service Dept. There are so few guns with the added marks that I suspect it was only one guy adding them and not all the workmen.
NONE of the guns I have observed had anything RE-stamped, IMO.
They only had the 4 line address added if the gun had nothing stamped on the lower right frame corner. If the gun already had "Made in USA", he did not add the 4 line address. As far as I know, S&W NEVER added the one line "Made In USA" stamp to a refinished gun.
They did NOT have remarked patent dates or logos. To remark those items, the old ones would have to be completely polished off, and it would be evident if that much metal was removed.
All of them that I was able to pull the grips from were marked with a date and refinish marks. I think they all had a star on the butt, but I do not remember for sure. I know some did. As I recall, all were dated in the early 70s, and 1972 is the only year I THINK I remember.
Roy was Production Manager at that time I THINK, not sure of his exact title/job, but he is definitely the person who ordered it stopped.

 

[Bullet Bob]

For the OP; is your barrel actually bored for .44's? If I was smarter I could pick up on that from the pictures, I believe. But I yam what I yam as a great philosopher used to say.

 

[Chubbs103]

There is a Model 24 "mis-marked" as a Model 28 on the big auction site right now. I find the finish on the frame interesting for the description provided. Bids are higher than I would have guessed.

I like it for what I believe it is, but not enough to bid.

 

[Jeep 1]

For the OP; is your barrel actually bored for .44's? If I was smarter I could pick up on that from the pictures, I believe. But I yam what I yam as a great philosopher used to say.

Bob,
It's not a dumb question to ask because if it wasn't it could lead to a very serious situation because a cylinder is certainly 44 magnum I have shot this gun quite a
bit, it's extremely accurate.
If you will look back at the picture in my second post you will notice the end of the muzzle with the 357 magnum cartridge dropped into it you will notice a pretty good gap around the outside of the complete cartridge.
Tom

 

[cstanmiller]

Not really a mismatch but something I wanted different than anybody else had.
Model 10 with Model 14 barrels.

 

[flundertaker]

Not really a mismatch but something I wanted different than anybody else had.
Model 10 with Model 14 barrels. View attachment 773590

I bet that fiber optic front sight glows brightly!

 

[cstanmiller]

I bet that fiber optic front sight glows brightly!

Yes I shoot it in ICORE matches. I modified 38 brass so I can use moon clips w/o have the cylinder modified and use it in any K-frame.

 

[Jeep 1]

Some pretty cool guns so let's ask a question does a miss mark make much difference in the collector value?
Or does it have to be a super freak to ad more collector value?

 

[hkcavalier]

Closest thing I have is this Bisley .455 Triple Lock with no barrel markings from the factory. Shaved for .45ACP which is how I got it for regular guy money.

So not "mismarked" but definitely a freak in the S&W world.

 

[s3dcor]

Apparently a commonly found mistake, my model 581 marked 58-1. Note the large stamped 5.

 

[stansdds]

Apparently a commonly found mistake, my model 581 marked 58-1. Note the large stamped 5.

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Someone was having a really bad day with stamping model numbers.

 

[aplombardo]

29-2 marked frame with 25-2 barrel and cylinder. Nice matching finish.