Home invasion Canadian style

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Oh boy , now we get to hear the bs here as well ,not just Facebook etc
Look at it this way, your performing a service. As long as they can criticize Canada, they can ignore the insanity that has engulfed every state in this country. Personally, I have enough to worry about here. What Canadians do in their country is no concern of mine.
 
...There are 35 guns per 100 people in Canada versus 120 guns per 100 people here, so the bad guys up there are less concerned about being confronted by citizens when committing crimes. Eh?
Not sure about the ratio here, but certainly Candian criminals are pretty much unconcerned about being confronted by an armed homeowner. Unless the homeowner is also a (genuine) criminal, of course, in which case there is very likely to be an illegal, fully-loaded firearm immediately at hand.
 
Anyone who thinks ringing a doorbell is justification for deadly force frightens me. You, sir, frighten me. Note to self...keep the grandkids a million miles away from where that guy lives.


You, sir, are wholly ignoring the facts. It wasn't merely "ringing the doorbell". It was KICKING the front entry door, simulating a home invasion. If you can't differentiate the two, then I don't know what to tell you.

Nor do I take offense at your broad-brush painting of me despite having never met me nor interact with me. Says a lot about your decision making, IMO.

Have a lovely day.
 
He was an 11 year old child . A child……a…. Child ……


Doing adult things.

11 year olds have been arrested for murder as well. Where was your outrage for their victims?

Nor did the homeowner know the age of the person kicking in his door, did he? No, he did not.

No one mentions the parent (surely a single mom household, IMO) allowing him out at 11-something pm. What kind of parenting is that???? :rolleyes:
 
You, sir, are wholly ignoring the facts. It wasn't merely "ringing the doorbell". It was KICKING the front entry door, simulating a home invasion. If you can't differentiate the two, then I don't know what to tell you.

Nor do I take offense at your broad-brush painting of me despite having never met me nor interact with me. Says a lot about your decision making, IMO.

Have a lovely day.
Nowhere, in any article I have read about this, is there any mention of kicking down a door. As for your single mom comment to another post, on this we agree. My neighbor was a single mom. Her husband taken out by a drunk driver leaving her with 2 toddlers. She is a horrible person, raised them herself, both went into law enforcement careers. She should be ashamed.
 
I was completely unaware of the shooting in Texas. I think the parents should be charged for not knowing where their 11 yr old is that late at night.
 
A) He was NOT "murdered".
B) He was kicking in the entry door in the middle of the night.
C) He got exactly what that behavior earned.
D) He won't be doing that again.
This incident happened in Texas. I'm a resident of Texas with a License to Carry. Now I admit it's been 10 years since my LTC training, but as I understand Texas law, it is not legal to shoot at an intruder until they have made actual physical entry. The door kicker did not make entry. My fellow Texas LTC holders can back me up or refute my statement, but under our law the shooter is in big trouble. Opinions don't matter, the law does.
 
What you guys seem to miss is, Canadian cops actually do their jobs. Unlike in Kansas where a theft of any kind gets filed, and never looked at again, Canadian, or at least Ontario cops actually get your stuff back and work with insurance CO's to ensure you are inconvenienced as little as possible.

In Kansas, the insurance companies lobby with gun lobby's so they don't have to pay out.

The more you know…
 
...My neighbor was a single mom. Her husband taken out by a drunk driver leaving her with 2 toddlers. She is a horrible person, raised them herself, both went into law enforcement careers. She should be ashamed.
I would seem the kids turned out OK, despite the parenting (?)

An 11 y.o. kicking in a door in a home invasion? Unbelievable... Mind you, here in my litte city of 40k, in February an 18 y.o. was arrested, in his parents' home, with about $10k and a compact S&W semi, standard cap. magazine (civilian limit is 10) and a suppressor!
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Use of counterfeit money leads to seizure of loaded handguns
...one of the 18-year-olds was living with his parents – Mission RCMP's Crime Reduction Unit located two handguns, drugs in packaging consistent with drug trafficking, and over $10,000 in genuine Canadian currency. Not only were both of the guns loaded, but one was also equipped with a silencer. The pair are associated with each other and known to police.
 
This incident happened in Texas. I'm a resident of Texas with a License to Carry. Now I admit it's been 10 years since my LTC training, but as I understand Texas law, it is not legal to shoot at an intruder until they have made actual physical entry. The door kicker did not make entry. My fellow Texas LTC holders can back me up or refute my statement, but under our law the shooter is in big trouble. Opinions don't matter, the law does.
Kid rang the bell and ran, moron stepped out of his house and shot the kid in the back as he was running away. Thankfully he is now held without bail...hope he rots in hell. In my world that kid did not deserve what he got, disgust s me to think that some do.
 
"A neighbor not very far away raises pigs and has a backhoe."

The neighbor converts the criminals into hog food who then make bacon out of them. Sounds like win, win to me!

73,
Rick
 
What you guys seem to miss is, Canadian cops actually do their jobs. Unlike in Kansas where a theft of any kind gets filed, and never looked at again, Canadian, or at least Ontario cops actually get your stuff back and work with insurance CO's to ensure you are inconvenienced as little as possible.

In Kansas, the insurance companies lobby with gun lobby's so they don't have to pay out.

The more you know…
I'd rather not loose my stuff to start with.
 
A fairly long time ago, I read of a case back in the UK. A man, armed with a large knife broke into a house and assaulted the home owner. While retreating, the HO grabbed a replica samurai sword from a display rack and defended himself. IIRC, the intruder lost an arm (evidently a decent replica). The crown prosecutor managed to get the home owner convicted of causing great bodily harm. Fortunately, the verdict was overturned on appeal. I've had a mental image of the appellate judge looking down his/her nose at the CP and saying "Really?"
 
First the Canadian thing; my brother in law gets married, takes his new wife to Canada for their honey moon. When they get to the border they strip search his truck and he ask why are you doing this, your not doing this to anyone else? The answer; your license plate say Texas, everyone in Texas carries a gun. This was 25 years ago
As far as the shooting of the 11 year old for ringing the doorbell, that should never happen. Kids have been knocking ringing door bells forever, thank God I was never shot. People are just angry today, very short temper, look at road rage, I never use my horn, not taking a chance.
 
First the Canadian thing; my brother in law gets married, takes his new wife to Canada for their honey moon. When they get to the border they strip search his truck and he ask why are you doing this, your not doing this to anyone else? The answer; your license plate say Texas, everyone in Texas carries a gun. This was 25 years ago
Last Christmas my son and DIL came to NY for the holiday. They had a free coupon for a Niagara Falls Canada deluxe high rise hotel with a view. They stayed there one night and met some Canadian friends. His Truck had TN plates.

The Border questioning went like this:
"Do you own guns?"
"YES"
"Do you have one with you?"
"NO"
"Where are they?"
"At my home in TN. I was born and raised in Niagara Falls, NY and I know not to bring a gun into Canada"
"Have a nice day"

Sometimes being prepared with a respectful answer works quite well.
 
Every government wants citizens to be helpless and dependent. As Americans we still have the individual right to choose not to be a victim.
I just spent the month of August traveling in Canada meeting old friends and new. The majority can't explain how their country has become so liberal and have distrust for their government. They do have speech laws that can be used to persecute citizens who question the status quo. (Remember the Ottawa protests, arrests, frozen bank accounts, etc.) Most choose to keep their opinion to themselves. They're unhappy, but silent.
Culturally we are different, that's true. Culturally, Canadians want to get along at any price, we Americans, less so. IMHO.
A good comparison of the cultural difference is our respective national mottos. The USA is "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." The Canadian is "Peace, order and good governance."
I for one, am offended and terrified by the thought of a government bureaucracy telling me to submit to being a victim.
 
First the Canadian thing; my brother in law gets married, takes his new wife to Canada for their honey moon. When they get to the border they strip search his truck and he ask why are you doing this, your not doing this to anyone else? The answer; your license plate say Texas, everyone in Texas carries a gun. This was 25 years ago
As far as the shooting of the 11 year old for ringing the doorbell, that should never happen. Kids have been knocking ringing door bells forever, thank God I was never shot. People are just angry today, very short temper, look at road rage, I never use my horn, not taking a chance.
Essentially the same thing happened to me years ago. At the border, a Canadian officer saw my Law Enforcement ID when I opened my wallet. She asked if I had my firearm. I explained that I had no intention of violating Canadian law and that my weapon was locked up at home hundreds of miles away. She proceeded with a full search of my vehicle after explaining that "You Americans love your guns."
I was professionally courteous and was traveling with my wife and three small children.
I love my brothers and sisters in Law Enforcement, but I draw the line at petty bureaucrats .
 
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