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Tombstone (movie)
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sipowicz
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One of them movies from that cesspool they call Hollywood with all them lefto actors in it? No thanks, I'll just widdle tonight!
motorpat
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Thanks RonJ It just started here on the East Coast.
Aw, come on, Sip. I rank Tombstone as one of the best Western movies of all time. They even made some effort to make a large part of it historically accurate. The guns were of the period, and the OK corral fight was pretty close to the way it actually happened, from all period reports of the incident. I enjoyed seeing it the first time, and have a DVD so that I can see it again any time I want.
Biggest complaint I had was that when Wyatt and his brothers came into town for the first time (1879 by all accounts), the Birdcage Theater didn't exist - it was built in 1881. Yet the movie shows them striding by that edifice when they enter town. Ah, well, it gave their entrance some flavor.
I think Kurt Russell gave the most authentic rendition of Wyatt Earp yet - both in appearance and demeanor. And Val Kilmer's portrayal of the tubercular Doc Holliday was also probably the best of any I've seen.
Just my $.02 worth.
Biggest complaint I had was that when Wyatt and his brothers came into town for the first time (1879 by all accounts), the Birdcage Theater didn't exist - it was built in 1881. Yet the movie shows them striding by that edifice when they enter town. Ah, well, it gave their entrance some flavor.
I think Kurt Russell gave the most authentic rendition of Wyatt Earp yet - both in appearance and demeanor. And Val Kilmer's portrayal of the tubercular Doc Holliday was also probably the best of any I've seen.
Just my $.02 worth.
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David LaPell
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Actually the OK Corral gunfight in the movie Tombstone is way off, as in reality it lasted about 30 seconds. The version in Wyatt Earp was much better with the exception of Doc getting shot. The real screamer is counting all the bullets that Curly Bill fires before he shoots Fred White. I will agree though that Val kilmer plays a better Doc.
mkk41
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Ya only get a glimpse , but that looks like a Merwin & Hulbert that Kurt Russel is holding on Ike Clanton after Marshall White gets shot. Ya can see the point of the 'skull crusher' grp when he cocks it.
Wayne02
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I have no idea if they movie was historically accurate. I just know it is a good movie.
This brings up something I saw on some show about recreating history. My memory is vague on this show, but what I can remember, it seems like it was a real close quarters fight and was in kind of an enclosed alley. And it didn't last long. At least that's the way I remember this particular show's rendition of it.
Both my memory and/or the show could easily be wrong...
beach elvis
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One thing I don't get is why no mention of the other brother, James, that came to Tombstone with the others?
Surprising from a stickler like John Milius.
Surprising from a stickler like John Milius.
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In no way would I describe a Milius film remotely left wing. Nor Kurt Russell, from what I know of him. And that is way too many shots fired before the sheriff gets it, but Hollywood seems to care not. Yet, as it's a "historical" Western, you'd think they'd expect western fans to know the difference. May as well have Wild Bill carry a 1911...
Good movie. Very much like it. Have to go buy some flower pots, potting soil for my wife to put some herbs in, but if I can get home fast enough, will get out the chips and Coke and watch it.
Wyatt Burp
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As David Lapell said the OK fight wasn't correct but better than some, I think Dennis Quaid was the most historically correct Doc. When I went to Tombstone (being so into this stuff) I stood in that tiny lot and couldn't believe the close proximately of these guys to eachother. But when the place is full of black powder smoke and little pieces of lead are coming at you, it's easy how they missed their targets a lot. You have to pay to get in there but you can also just go out on Fremont street for free where the shooting overflowed and the McClaury;s died and Doc was grazed, it's pretty compelling.
Just for the heck of it, I thought I'd show you the original cast! These photos and their captions are in the museum at the old Cochise County courthouse in Tombstone. These guys were the real deal and had to have had juevos of solid brass.
John
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Sip; Guess the most in Hollyweird are lefty's but I don't think Sam Elliott is.
Wyatt Burp
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Here's the place where it happened. You have to picture that iron fence as the wall of "The Harwood House" which is now just a vacant lot. The cowboys kind of had their backs to it. That building there was Flys boarding house (where doc lived) and Fly's photo studio was in back to the right in this picture. You can see part of it here. Look how close they were in that cramped ara. I think they should replicate the Harwood House to better show the tight area these guys were in.
beach elvis
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In case you weren't aware, Peter Sherayko, alias "Creek Johnson", was the gun wrangler for the flick. He still has the main Buntline copy that Russell used for shooting scenes. One of 3 that he had Uberti put together for the movie.
According to the information posted in the area of the OK corral, the gun fight took place in the alleyway leading from Tombstone’s main street to the Ok corral, not in the corral itself.
