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the perfect martini
For me it's Grey Goose Vodka straight up shaken not stirred VERY VERY Cold then add two olives. At $36.00 a Liter for Grey Goose are there any other that are better. I hate to buy a bottle of vodka then not like it.
What say you
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I've been drinking "Platinum" at $9.99. But then I'm unemployed.
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First of all; Gin NOT Vodka. Gibleys or Beefeaters and just a touch of dry vermouth and two olives. with or without ice as you prfefer.
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henry martini?
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For me it's Grey Goose Vodka straight up shaken not stirred VERY VERY Cold then add two olives. At $36.00 a Liter for Grey Goose are there any other that are better. I hate to buy a bottle of vodka then not like it.
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+1 chuck that's the way I like it also !!!!!!
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why dont yall just drink dish water?
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the perfect martini
I don't care for neither gin nor vodka. My "martini" is made with bourbon. Several icecubes in the glass, add the bourbon(Knob Creek), enjoy. Thats all folks.
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I do enjoy a good martini but this evening it has been a scotch sour..........good J & B two scotch to one sour mix
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Tanqueray, very very cold, but with no ice, and with a pickled pearl onion, please. You can just sit the vermouth bottle about six feet from the drink, and that will impart sufficient essence to flavor the beverage to my taste.
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Forgive me but a Martini is made with GIN . I can't see the rationale behind drinking Vodka-it doesn't taste like anything!!!
A good gin-Bombay Saphire-some good dry vermouth- Noilly Pratt-three olives stuffed with anchovies-a twist (lemon) and a dash of angoustora-in a frosty glass with a stem-----repeat as necessary.
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I'll not get into this discussion while at work?
But to paraphrase Ron White,
"If you'd care to try a Vodka that's sure to make you die a penniless drunk". I highly recommend "Platinum". It's not as gentle as Grey Goose, but it's easily the equal of Skye for drinkability. And even in this liquor control board state, it's still cheap enough to throw at T-54 tanks during a civil insurrection?
Seriously, it's the bestest, cheapest Vodka I've found!
But no, nothing's as good as Grey Goose in that application.
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A martini is a gin drink. There is such a thing as a vodka-based martini-style cocktail, but I don't know why anyone would base a cocktail on watered-down rubbing alcohol.
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Traditional martinis are made with gin and that's how James Bond used to drink them. I used to make mine with Bombay Sapphire. Then I moved on to higher quality vodkas like Goose or KetalOne. Then I decided why ruin those with the vermouth and went to straight vodka on the rocks with two olives.
DelavanKS, not to make you jealous or anything but my local grocer here in Illinois is having a price war with KetalOne and Grey Goose. $23 for a 750ml bottle. Every other week he puts one brand or the other on special.
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10-4 on the reoeat as necessary
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Bombay Sapphire, ice cold, in a frozen martini glass, misted once and only once with vermouth. A couple olives to add flavor.
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Don't make me go and get my 30# can of R-22 for chilling the parfait glasses! I'm warning you all! One step closer and I'll do it!
And I mean it!
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smitty bs,
Some of the few things I miss about Chicago,
A. Great food.
B. CHEAP BOOZE!
I think it's their way of trying to make up for it being a peoples paradise?
Had I stayed, I'm sure at those prices I'd have had to have the "Fram PH-8" or "Lubrifiner" conversion done to my liver?
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I have a .577"/.450" Calibre Martini-Henry Mk.II Rifle made by Birmingham Small Arms and Metal Company in 1888. That is what I think of a when I hear the word "Martini" LOL.
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Tanqueray, very very cold, but with no ice, and with a pickled pearl onion, please. You can just sit the vermouth bottle about six feet from the drink, and that will impart sufficient essence to flavor the beverage to my taste.
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Hendrick's Gin -- distilled and bottled in Scotland.
Noilly Prat vermouth -- made in France.
Both ice cold
Ice cold Martini glass, preferably stored in the freezer overnight.
1 part vermouth
4 parts gin
Poured into a cocktail glass and shaken vigorously for a few seconds with a bit of crushed ice.
Strain the ice from the martini mix into a GLASS Martini glass (plastic will impart an undesirable flavor).
Add a small cutting of fresh lemon peel to each glass.
Spear two Spanish manzanilla green olives and one small cocktail onion on a wooden toothpick. Add to glass.
Or hold the onion, if you prefer. Myself, I like them.
Sit back and enjoy.
I used to consider Bombay Emerald as the best gin extant, until I found Hendrick's. Ohhhh myyyy gawwdddddd ... it is ambrosia!
Martinis are made with gin and vermouth -- not vodka, tequila, bourbon or anything else. Gin and vermouth maketh the Martini. Anything else in a Martini glass is an imposter.
The grumpy ol' desert cat has spoken, from his Church of the Holy Martini pulpit deep in the Utah desert!
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G/C,
THE perfect Gibson!
When a Gin Martini is on tap, that's the way it looks.
And I'm with you Gato!
If dry vermouth, Noilly Prat.
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Put me in the Vodka martini group. KettleOne is as good if not better than Grey Goose (although I like both). Get the vodka ice cold, pour it into a Martini glass, add 3 or 4 green olives skewered, bow three times towards Italy (that's about as much vermouth as is neeed!) and it's done.
The James Bond Martini:
The Vesper
This martini appeared in the very first novel, Casino Royale. It is Bond's own invention. Here is the recipe:
3 measures of Gordon's Gin
1 measure of vodka
1/2 measure Kina Lillet vermouth
Shake it very well until it's ice cold, pour into a deep champange glass. Garnish with a slice of lemon peel.
There you have it!
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840,
Did that recipe indicate it being a "cloudy" Martini, or as they call them today a "dirty" Martini? The only reason I ask, is because if actually shaken, the drink can cloud due to the Vermouth getting aerated?
As you can tell, I've done signifcant testing in this area. All in the name of science of course! After all, someone had to do it?
I had never heard of the Vesper though? It sounds like a clear liquor version of a Perfect Rob-Roy or Manhattan? Thanks for that recipe!
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I've never tried a martini because I simply can't gag gin down.
And I drink straight bourbon, no ice.
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Vodka Martini's were invented precisely for folks like you Barb!
I do Gin Martini's, but it usually 1 to 10 in favor of Vodka.
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Yep, must be gin and dry vermouth. Garnish with what you like, olive, onion, even a lemon zest (I prefer that). Anything else is just ... wrong.
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Get a highball glass. Fill it with ice cubes. Pour Bombay Sapphire gin over the rocks until within 1/4" of the brim. Whisper "vermouth" very softly over the brim. Garnish with two large pimento-stuffed olives. Go sit down. Savor.
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Quote:
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For me it's Grey Goose Vodka straight up shaken not stirred VERY VERY Cold then add two olives. At $36.00 a Liter for Grey Goose are there any other that are better. I hate to buy a bottle of vodka then not like it.
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Try keeping your vodka in the freezer - it'll frost your tonsils!
That said, I prefer a dry gin martini (Gordon's please), shaken with a lemon twist. Yes, I do own a bottle of Vermouth but don't consider it essential.
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I've never tried a martini because I simply can't gag gin down.
And I drink straight bourbon, no ice.
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Bombay Saphire and a few drops of Noilly Pratt dry vermouth (more or less according to personal preference) over plenty of ice in a stainless steel martini shaker.
Serve straight up over 2-3 blue cheese stuffed olives in a martini glass.
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Quote:
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For me it's Grey Goose Vodka straight up shaken not stirred VERY VERY Cold then add two olives. At $36.00 a Liter for Grey Goose are there any other that are better. I hate to buy a bottle of vodka then not like it.
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without Vermouth it's just vodka with 2 olives...
I ike mine with 2 olives also...and a little dirty....
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"Bond insisted on ordering Leither's Haig-and-Haig 'on the rocks' [a quality Scotch whiskey - Lisa] and then he looked carefully at the barman.
'A dry martini,' he said. 'One. In a deep champagne goblet.'
'Oui, monsieur.'
'Just a moment. Three measures of Gordon's [an English gin - Lisa], one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. [this is NOT vermouth - see below!] Shake it very well until it's ice-cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon peel. Got it?'
'Certainly, monsieur.' The barman seemed pleasant with the idea.
'Gosh that's certainly a drink,' said Leiter.
Bond laughed. 'When I'm ... er ... concentrating.' he explained, 'I never have more than one drink before dinner. But I do like that one to be large and very strong and very cold and very well-made. I hate small portions of anything, particularly when they taste bad. This drink's my own invention. I'm going to patent it when I can think of a good name.'
He watched carefully as the deep glass became frosted with the pale golden drink, slightly aerated by the bruising of the shaker. He reached for it and took a long sip.
'Excellent,' he said to the barman, 'but if you can get a vodka made with grain instead of potatoes, you will find it still better.'
Lillet and Vermouth
Note that some claim that Kina Lillet is a vermouth. It is NOT A VERMOUTH My research shows Lillet Kina is a wine based drink that has quinine in it. Kina refers to the Kina Kina (quinquina) tree where quinine comes from. In fact back in the James Bond days it was VERY bitter and the entire drink would have been quite bitter. They changed the formula in the mid-80s to have less quinine, and now it comes in "Lillet Blanc" and "Lillet Rouge". They're made in Podensac, in France. Technically they are "French aperitif wines". They are a blend of wine grapes, oranges, orange peels and quinine.
Vermouth, on the other hand, is a fortified wine - i.e. wine kicked up with heavy alcohol. They then add in herbs and spices. The main types of vermouth are dry vermouth, sweet red vermouth, and white vermouth.
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Just did a simple search under James Bond Martini, and voila'! These search engines can even make an idiot like me seem to know a thing or two!
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